Got my friend into Dust, while he technically started his character before chromosome or during (somewhere around there, it was before they created the academy because I was able to play ambush from the get go), he didn't play and had about 6.5k in sp point (all gains were passive gains) and he wanted an Assault character with an assault rifle. I told him about the other assault rifle like weapons and had enough to put a point each into AR LR and ScrR, I then played a few ambush matches for him to show him how they played out / how they worked.

As a heads up, I am a dedicated scout (5.5 million) on my toon and still plan on staying scout because I always play light classes in games but playing those pub ambush games as an AR Medium Assault to demonstrate for my friend was literally the easiest game play I ever had. I was able to run the free fits and easily go positive with 2x or 3x multipliers most of the time, vehicle dominated matches were harder to dodge and avoid compared to my scout, and those matches I went below 1.0 ratio. I'd say my over all gameplay had a 2x or 3x multiplier 60-70% of the time and below 1x about 30-40% of the time and I played about 40 games.

DONT DO IT THE PLAYSTYLE IS BORING AS ****.

I ditched my first 7M SP toon because I could not stand using the AR.

Oh my god if I hear one more person complain about logistics then I will spend the next month in the battle academy with alts and stomp the crap out of them. I'll even start wearing PRO suits in PUBs.

First off, logistics are meant to be versatile, and while they can fulfill the tasks of other roles they will never be better than at that role than the other, i.e a min logi will never have the same speed and stealth as a PRO scout, and a cal/amarr logi will never have the tank abilities as the heavy without sacrificing vital CPU/PG used for our equipment.

To put it simply, logis can do everything, but they can't do everything at the same time

DONT DO IT THE PLAYSTYLE IS BORING AS ****.

I ditched my first 7M SP toon because I could not stand using the AR.

Oh my god if I hear one more person complain about logistics then I will spend the next month in the battle academy with alts and stomp the crap out of them. I'll even start wearing PRO suits in PUBs.

First off, logistics are meant to be versatile, and while they can fulfill the tasks of other roles they will never be better than at that role than the other, i.e a min logi will never have the same speed and stealth as a PRO scout, and a cal/amarr logi will never have the tank abilities as the heavy without sacrificing vital CPU/PG used for our equipment.

To put it simply, logis can do everything, but they can't do everything at the same time

Let's see your precious AR save you from the fire i rain down upon you with my Sniper Scout or Forge Commando...and yes..i'm serious about the Commando..

Scouts should make more noise about their problems like the medium frames do.
Do not let your voice be drowned in this chaos of assault v logi but rise above it.
We need you to be good and you know it and you want it!

Seriously though, scout scan range +6m buff was like a slap to the face for scouts as it did not address any problems like lack of role, specialization or speed etc.

I'm no scout but I appreciate that one quick guy in the team and those are few and far between nowadays :(

Switching ti the AR/Medium Frame is a step to giving up on this garbage game all together.