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kayn TARON Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 15	Posted - 2013.11.06 18:57:00 - [1] - Quote Just so everyone is aware they nerfed the splash on turret dmg on tanks. Like we really needed nerfed yet again. Really getting tired of the BS they have put us tanks through since the 1.4 swarm launcher buff. Especially for those of us whom have dedicated tankers.
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder. 481	Posted - 2013.11.06 19:00:00 - [2] - Quote kayn TARON wrote: Just so everyone is aware they nerfed the splash on turret dmg on tanks. Like we really needed nerfed yet again. Really getting tired of the BS they have put us tanks through since the 1.4 swarm launcher buff. Especially for those of us whom have dedicated tankers. AV getting hard-nerfed, and tanks getting a HP buff 1.7, give it a rest.
kayn TARON Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 15	Posted - 2013.11.06 19:01:00 - [3] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: kayn TARON wrote: Just so everyone is aware they nerfed the splash on turret dmg on tanks. Like we really needed nerfed yet again. Really getting tired of the BS they have put us tanks through since the 1.4 swarm launcher buff. Especially for those of us whom have dedicated tankers. AV getting hard-nerfed, and tanks getting a HP buff 1.7, give it a rest. You are obviously not at tank so shush. You obviously have not read that they are nerfing tanks in 1.7 with reduced slots 3/2 and 2/3 not ot mention taking our proto stuff like proto turrets away etc.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 670	Posted - 2013.11.06 19:07:00 - [4] - Quote Why would they nerf splash damage on our turrets? I could understand if they gave us a compromise, such as ROF increase, increase to round size, etc. Who at CCP said, "oh well tanks really need that splash damage nerf on their turrets"? Why CCP? Why did you do this? There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy You'll still me useful in my eyes
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4657	Posted - 2013.11.06 19:09:00 - [5] - Quote The railgun splash? Or the blaster splash? Level 4 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
CLONE117 planetary retaliation organisation 455	Posted - 2013.11.06 19:10:00 - [6] - Quote hopefully av nades will be nerfed as a result of this.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 670	Posted - 2013.11.06 19:12:00 - [7] - Quote kayn TARON wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: kayn TARON wrote: Just so everyone is aware they nerfed the splash on turret dmg on tanks. Like we really needed nerfed yet again. Really getting tired of the BS they have put us tanks through since the 1.4 swarm launcher buff. Especially for those of us whom have dedicated tankers. AV getting hard-nerfed, and tanks getting a HP buff 1.7, give it a rest. You are obviously not at tank so shush. You obviously have not read that they are nerfing tanks in 1.7 with reduced slots 3/2 and 2/3 not ot mention taking our proto stuff like proto turrets away etc. No kayn, you need to HTFU. Last time I checked, you aren't the only person who plays this game. This is DUST 514, not TANK 514 (yet). So as long as they play the game and know what they are talking about, you have no right to say "shush" There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy You'll still me useful in my eyes
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1220	Posted - 2013.11.06 19:21:00 - [8] - Quote Atiim wrote: kayn TARON wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: kayn TARON wrote: Just so everyone is aware they nerfed the splash on turret dmg on tanks. Like we really needed nerfed yet again. Really getting tired of the BS they have put us tanks through since the 1.4 swarm launcher buff. Especially for those of us whom have dedicated tankers. AV getting hard-nerfed, and tanks getting a HP buff 1.7, give it a rest. You are obviously not at tank so shush. You obviously have not read that they are nerfing tanks in 1.7 with reduced slots 3/2 and 2/3 not ot mention taking our proto stuff like proto turrets away etc. No kayn, you need to HTFU. Last time I checked, you aren't the only person who plays this game. This is DUST 514, not TANK 514 (yet). So as long as they play the game and know what they are talking about, you have no right to say "shush" the other dude is wrong about the ho buff thought -_- base hull hp buff means nothing. Its the modules that make a difference... "Please don't" GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 670	Posted - 2013.11.06 19:23:00 - [9] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Atiim wrote: kayn TARON wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: kayn TARON wrote: Just so everyone is aware they nerfed the splash on turret dmg on tanks. Like we really needed nerfed yet again. Really getting tired of the BS they have put us tanks through since the 1.4 swarm launcher buff. Especially for those of us whom have dedicated tankers. AV getting hard-nerfed, and tanks getting a HP buff 1.7, give it a rest. You are obviously not at tank so shush. You obviously have not read that they are nerfing tanks in 1.7 with reduced slots 3/2 and 2/3 not ot mention taking our proto stuff like proto turrets away etc. No kayn, you need to HTFU. Last time I checked, you aren't the only person who plays this game. This is DUST 514, not TANK 514 (yet). So as long as they play the game and know what they are talking about, you have no right to say "shush" the other dude is wrong about the ho buff thought -_- base hull hp buff means nothing. Its the modules that make a difference... There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy You'll still me useful in my eyes
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3926	Posted - 2013.11.06 20:05:00 - [10] - Quote kayn TARON wrote: Just so everyone is aware they nerfed the splash on turret dmg on tanks. Like we really needed nerfed yet again. Really getting tired of the BS they have put us tanks through since the 1.4 swarm launcher buff. Especially for those of us whom have dedicated tankers. That's kind of the opposite to what they should be doing IMO. Remove the Large Blaster altogether and replace it Anti Infantry Capacity with Rail gun, and other direct fire main battle cannon turrets with greater splash. Would anyone complain instead of having an 80 Round Blaster Turret, and 8 Round Heavy Neutron Cannon with AoE infantry capacity? A 1 Sec delay between shots, moderate velocity, high Alpha weapon? Tanks would then have to rely on slower firing AV rounds to peg infantry, not just spray and pray. I know I would like that. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"

MUDFLAPS McGILLICUTTY OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 75	Posted - 2013.11.06 21:36:00 - [11] - Quote Do you have any details on which turrets got what nerfs? Are you talking about Tuesday's patch or upcoming in 1.7? We got another ninja-nerf in Tuesday's patch in the form of applying the "stuck to tank" prevention code to friendlies AND enemies. Meaning, effectively, you can no longer run enemies over in a tank. If you try to do so, they will just teleport behind you. LOLphysics. My post about it: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119586&find=unread
Harpyja Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 742	Posted - 2013.11.06 21:42:00 - [12] - Quote kayn TARON wrote: Just so everyone is aware they nerfed the splash on turret dmg on tanks. Like we really needed nerfed yet again. Really getting tired of the BS they have put us tanks through since the 1.4 swarm launcher buff. Especially for those of us whom have dedicated tankers. Can you provide some more detail? Are they "nerfed" now, or will be with 1.7? Can you provide some numbers? How much is the current splash on large railguns and missiles? "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3930	Posted - 2013.11.06 21:45:00 - [13] - Quote Tanks will be fine. They are pretty solid now with the AV drop and the new rebalancing, not to mention when the Pilot Suit hits they will be in the place they should be. Dependant on Modules to survive, lower than current HP values, higher EHP values, and with decent module cycling. All we need now is to get the turrets in a good place. REMOVE THE LARGE BLASTER. Or make it a small direct fire cannon. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1856	Posted - 2013.11.06 21:50:00 - [14] - Quote Lowered splash damage means large turrets will be less effective against infantry. AV nerf to swarms means one of the main sources of vehicle suppression is taking a hit (although it's really not that big of a nerf as most people think it is. Mainly a boon for dropship pilots, of which I am eternally grateful to CCP). This means soon one of the only viable anti-tank weapons is another tank. However, with the standardisation of tank modules, this means one tank and another will have fairly similar stats, so the victor will be the one who uses their modules more wisely and is generally more skillful at tanking. But even if they dominate the battlefield, their infantry slaying capabilities are much reduced by ammunition and reduced splash damage. Sounds like good balance to me. "..things that some people frankly don't even get the chance to do in real life, because it's poorly designed." -Veigar
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1438	Posted - 2013.11.06 21:53:00 - [15] - Quote kayn TARON wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: kayn TARON wrote: Just so everyone is aware they nerfed the splash on turret dmg on tanks. Like we really needed nerfed yet again. Really getting tired of the BS they have put us tanks through since the 1.4 swarm launcher buff. Especially for those of us whom have dedicated tankers. AV getting hard-nerfed, and tanks getting a HP buff 1.7, give it a rest. You are obviously not at tank so shush. You obviously have not read that they are nerfing tanks in 1.7 with reduced slots 3/2 and 2/3 not ot mention taking our proto stuff like proto turrets away etc. You didn't read it either. We still have our PROTO ****, they are only taking away variants of turrets, and the Tech 2 vehicles. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1438	Posted - 2013.11.06 21:59:00 - [16] - Quote True Adamance wrote: kayn TARON wrote: Just so everyone is aware they nerfed the splash on turret dmg on tanks. Like we really needed nerfed yet again. Really getting tired of the BS they have put us tanks through since the 1.4 swarm launcher buff. Especially for those of us whom have dedicated tankers. That's kind of the opposite to what they should be doing IMO. Remove the Large Blaster altogether and replace it Anti Infantry Capacity with Rail gun, and other direct fire main battle cannon turrets with greater splash. Would anyone complain instead of having an 80 Round Blaster Turret, and 8 Round Heavy Neutron Cannon with AoE infantry capacity? A 1 Sec delay between shots, moderate velocity, high Alpha weapon? Tanks would then have to rely on slower firing AV rounds to peg infantry, not just spray and pray. I know I would like that. Yes, we all would. It's not leaving. Stop ******* asking for it to leave. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3930	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:02:00 - [17] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: True Adamance wrote: kayn TARON wrote: Just so everyone is aware they nerfed the splash on turret dmg on tanks. Like we really needed nerfed yet again. Really getting tired of the BS they have put us tanks through since the 1.4 swarm launcher buff. Especially for those of us whom have dedicated tankers. That's kind of the opposite to what they should be doing IMO. Remove the Large Blaster altogether and replace it Anti Infantry Capacity with Rail gun, and other direct fire main battle cannon turrets with greater splash. Would anyone complain instead of having an 80 Round Blaster Turret, and 8 Round Heavy Neutron Cannon with AoE infantry capacity? A 1 Sec delay between shots, moderate velocity, high Alpha weapon? Tanks would then have to rely on slower firing AV rounds to peg infantry, not just spray and pray. I know I would like that. Yes, we all would. It's not leaving. Stop ******* asking for it to leave. Really because IMO the current large blaster should be reduces in DPS and coverted to a medium blaster turret to fit on MAV, giving that the Anti Infantry power, a niche role, and making tanks carry large ordinance to better combat vehicles, and with large AoE rounds infantry too at a less prolific pace. And no I wont, the Large Blaster is the bane of skilful and enjoyable tank combat. I regret that I use one from time to time, Im trying to branch out into Rail Guns. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2295	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:05:00 - [18] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: True Adamance wrote: kayn TARON wrote: Just so everyone is aware they nerfed the splash on turret dmg on tanks. Like we really needed nerfed yet again. Really getting tired of the BS they have put us tanks through since the 1.4 swarm launcher buff. Especially for those of us whom have dedicated tankers. That's kind of the opposite to what they should be doing IMO. Remove the Large Blaster altogether and replace it Anti Infantry Capacity with Rail gun, and other direct fire main battle cannon turrets with greater splash. Would anyone complain instead of having an 80 Round Blaster Turret, and 8 Round Heavy Neutron Cannon with AoE infantry capacity? A 1 Sec delay between shots, moderate velocity, high Alpha weapon? Tanks would then have to rely on slower firing AV rounds to peg infantry, not just spray and pray. I know I would like that. Yes, we all would. It's not leaving. Stop ******* asking for it to leave. Really because IMO the current large blaster should be reduces in DPS and coverted to a medium blaster turret to fit on MAV, giving that the Anti Infantry power, a niche role, and making tanks carry large ordinance to better combat vehicles, and with large AoE rounds infantry too at a less prolific pace. And no I wont, the Large Blaster is the bane of skilful and enjoyable tank combat. I regret that I use one from time to time, Im trying to branch out into Rail Guns. No, you see thats reasonable and if Im in a tank I should dominate absolutely everything no matter what unless its another tank Im not drunk, the planet just happens to be especially wobbly today.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1910	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:10:00 - [19] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: True Adamance wrote: kayn TARON wrote: Just so everyone is aware they nerfed the splash on turret dmg on tanks. Like we really needed nerfed yet again. Really getting tired of the BS they have put us tanks through since the 1.4 swarm launcher buff. Especially for those of us whom have dedicated tankers. That's kind of the opposite to what they should be doing IMO. Remove the Large Blaster altogether and replace it Anti Infantry Capacity with Rail gun, and other direct fire main battle cannon turrets with greater splash. Would anyone complain instead of having an 80 Round Blaster Turret, and 8 Round Heavy Neutron Cannon with AoE infantry capacity? A 1 Sec delay between shots, moderate velocity, high Alpha weapon? Tanks would then have to rely on slower firing AV rounds to peg infantry, not just spray and pray. I know I would like that. Yes, we all would. It's not leaving. Stop ******* asking for it to leave. Really because IMO the current large blaster should be reduces in DPS and coverted to a medium blaster turret to fit on MAV, giving that the Anti Infantry power, a niche role, and making tanks carry large ordinance to better combat vehicles, and with large AoE rounds infantry too at a less prolific pace. And no I wont, the Large Blaster is the bane of skilful and enjoyable tank combat. I regret that I use one from time to time, Im trying to branch out into Rail Guns. To be fair the blaster is supposed to be a short range high rof weapon. (CoughfixtheARCough) Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 1 Fix my class already
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3931	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:42:00 - [20] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: True Adamance wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: True Adamance wrote: kayn TARON wrote: Just so everyone is aware they nerfed the splash on turret dmg on tanks. Like we really needed nerfed yet again. Really getting tired of the BS they have put us tanks through since the 1.4 swarm launcher buff. Especially for those of us whom have dedicated tankers. That's kind of the opposite to what they should be doing IMO. Remove the Large Blaster altogether and replace it Anti Infantry Capacity with Rail gun, and other direct fire main battle cannon turrets with greater splash. Would anyone complain instead of having an 80 Round Blaster Turret, and 8 Round Heavy Neutron Cannon with AoE infantry capacity? A 1 Sec delay between shots, moderate velocity, high Alpha weapon? Tanks would then have to rely on slower firing AV rounds to peg infantry, not just spray and pray. I know I would like that. Yes, we all would. It's not leaving. Stop ******* asking for it to leave. Really because IMO the current large blaster should be reduces in DPS and coverted to a medium blaster turret to fit on MAV, giving that the Anti Infantry power, a niche role, and making tanks carry large ordinance to better combat vehicles, and with large AoE rounds infantry too at a less prolific pace. And no I wont, the Large Blaster is the bane of skilful and enjoyable tank combat. I regret that I use one from time to time, Im trying to branch out into Rail Guns. To be fair the blaster is supposed to be a short range high rof weapon. (CoughfixtheARCough) But it makes combat nothing but a 12 second brawl that requires very little skills and IMO doesn't fit the role of a tank. Heavy Explosive and line breaking Ordinance. Sadly there is not reason not to use the blaster in most situations. As I said, I have not issue with the smaller turrets being high RoF and short range. But this kind of highly potent ordinance can also be achieved through the 8 shot ordinance cannon style. Where 1 blaster shell is the equivalent of 8-10 smaller rounds with greater AoE, slower than current blaster RoF, but the highest RoF of all battle cannon. Think PS2 Lightening's main gun. E.G- Heavy Neutron Blaster- 8 rounds, largest AoE, Decent RoF Heavy AutoCannon- 16 Rounds, decent AoE, Highest RoF, least accuracy. Heavy Laser- Till Over Heat/ Charged Shot. Low/Nill AoE, Lowered RoF Railgun- 3 Shots, Low AoE, Low RoF. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"

kayn TARON Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:45:00 - [21] - Quote To the troll shush, I got a near 10 mil straight tanker and you? To everyone else note the nerf to splash went into effect with 1.6 so it's live now. The proto is only doing like 100 dmg on missiles, would have to double check numbers again on rails.
kayn TARON Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:51:00 - [22] - Quote Also as i'm not in game at the moment it would be great if someone could double check current values of rails to see if they hit them as well?
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3932	Posted - 2013.11.06 23:11:00 - [23] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: True Adamance wrote: kayn TARON wrote: Just so everyone is aware they nerfed the splash on turret dmg on tanks. Like we really needed nerfed yet again. Really getting tired of the BS they have put us tanks through since the 1.4 swarm launcher buff. Especially for those of us whom have dedicated tankers. That's kind of the opposite to what they should be doing IMO. Remove the Large Blaster altogether and replace it Anti Infantry Capacity with Rail gun, and other direct fire main battle cannon turrets with greater splash. Would anyone complain instead of having an 80 Round Blaster Turret, and 8 Round Heavy Neutron Cannon with AoE infantry capacity? A 1 Sec delay between shots, moderate velocity, high Alpha weapon? Tanks would then have to rely on slower firing AV rounds to peg infantry, not just spray and pray. I know I would like that. Yes, we all would. It's not leaving. Stop ******* asking for it to leave. Really because IMO the current large blaster should be reduces in DPS and coverted to a medium blaster turret to fit on MAV, giving that the Anti Infantry power, a niche role, and making tanks carry large ordinance to better combat vehicles, and with large AoE rounds infantry too at a less prolific pace. And no I wont, the Large Blaster is the bane of skilful and enjoyable tank combat. I regret that I use one from time to time, Im trying to branch out into Rail Guns. No, you see thats reasonable and if Im in a tank I should dominate absolutely everything no matter what unless its another tank But tanks don't usually engage infantry..... well not in terms of real world tanks.... I just find it hard to imagine that the most sophicticated tanks in New Eden still use the strategy lets run up there and bash his head in with a rock.... rather than, this armoured vehicle is a platform for a really big gun. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"


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