DUST Search - Mouse Setting Poll - Please add your settings

Ron Bennington wrote:

Spectral Clone wrote:

Update 2 (2013-11-11)

Could some people try these settings out and give me some feedback if there are improvements:

1. Set your mouse polling rate as low as possible (100 or 125 Hz).

2. Goto PS3 XMB menu -> AccesSory Settings -> Pointer Speed
Set the pointer speed to "Slow"

3. Set your mouse sensitivity to 60 (This is the default value).

4. Set your mouse smoothing to OFF.

5. Tune your DPI setting in the mouse do that you get the correct sensitivity.

6. Report if the mouse feels better in this thread.

I tried this along with switching to 480p, and my mouse is working much more like it should. I can do a 180 turn going from each side of the mouse pad at any given speed and get the same results. Before doing this my mouse would actually rotate the player faster when moved across the pad at a slow speed, and slower when swiped fast. Though my game looks like ****, my aim is back on point. Thank you sir

Also, I had to reduce my DPI to ~105, which is not a normal setting. But hey, whatever works :D

My mouse: Steel Series Sensei, great piece of hardware. Has a little lcd screen on the bottom that lets you configure mouse accel/polling rate/etc.

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Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 319	Posted - 2013.11.06 14:34:00 - [1] - Quote Hello, I have now decided to make a mouse setting guide for dust 514. It seems like many players are having problems with setting up their mice optimally. I am going to collect data and write a guide on how to set up the mouse to work well, but I need data from KB/M users on their settings and how you experience the mouse performance (sluggish, shaky, etc). Please answer the linked poll below if you want to contribute: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1FCxIWqaPzoxO2mOlBWzNgAMjyVrroge8BqL6FiiZ3AY/viewform I will collect some data and present some graphs when I have gotten enough feedback. CCP please make our decisions matter. AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 821	Posted - 2013.11.06 14:48:00 - [2] - Quote Ive updated that page with my settings Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!"
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 319	Posted - 2013.11.06 14:49:00 - [3] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Ive updated that page with my settings Saw it, thanks! I just wonder how many people actually use kb/m nowadays, cant be many that stuck with it. CCP please make our decisions matter. AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514.
KA24DERT Pure Innocence. EoN. 250	Posted - 2013.11.06 14:59:00 - [4] - Quote Answered. You might want to add a field for "Is mouse smoothing turned on?"
Rei Shepard Spectre II 822	Posted - 2013.11.06 15:00:00 - [5] - Quote My best guess would be 100-200 total out of the 4000-5000 people still playing? I gave up on the KBM thread a long time ago and i know people who actually picked up a DS3 over their KBM. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!"
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 319	Posted - 2013.11.06 15:01:00 - [6] - Quote Oh, I just saw this: CCP Hybrid wrote: Hi, In answer to the question on the mouse sensitivity - it's being worked on currently. With the help of the forums we have identified the key issues and we hope to deploy a patch that resolves these concerns very soon. As for keyboard remapping, we are working through a list of prioritised tasks and this feature is among those. At this moment in time we are utilising all available resources to deliver a smoother Uprising experience. Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=800227#post800227 PS: I miss quake 2 railgun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETeowFt9FlU CCP please make our decisions matter. AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 319	Posted - 2013.11.06 15:01:00 - [7] - Quote KA24DERT wrote: Answered. You might want to add a field for "Is mouse smoothing turned on?" Yes, true. However, if you have it on. TURN IT OFF IMMIDIATELY CCP please make our decisions matter. AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 320	Posted - 2013.11.06 19:57:00 - [8] - Quote Shameless bump. +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
RevoItZ Commando Perkone Caldari State 289	Posted - 2013.11.06 20:08:00 - [9] - Quote I don't know how to answer most of that doc lol Ummm its on 40 sensitivity in the settings with mouse smoothing OFF Winner of EU Prime League Tournament Winner of EU Squad Cup GO GO POWER RANGERS
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 320	Posted - 2013.11.06 20:10:00 - [10] - Quote RevoItZ wrote: I don't know how to answer most of that doc lol Ummm its on 40 sensitivity in the settings with mouse smoothing OFF Not all questions are mandatory, this is because not all mice have the settings. I want to make a broad guide for all mouse users (both simple and more advanced ones)- +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."

M McManus Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 227	Posted - 2013.11.07 16:34:00 - [11] - Quote Its really not settings I'm concerned with, sure it can be a pain not being able to bind keys but its even more of a pain not being able to aim... This emulator **** needs fixed before or at the same time as key binding. .-áOn another note CCP Wolfman responded to a nova knife thread and we have a few blue tags trolling today maybe we'll get a response. ..
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 360	Posted - 2013.11.07 17:39:00 - [12] - Quote Quite a lot more data needed for the guide, please contribute! +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
IceStormers Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 67	Posted - 2013.11.07 18:26:00 - [13] - Quote can we see the data while we wait on the guide
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 363	Posted - 2013.11.07 19:06:00 - [14] - Quote IceStormers wrote: can we see the data while we wait on the guide https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmeFjJe9ETW7dExBQ0ticzdHZ1d6SG9KU21vRUZsWkE&usp=sharing +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 369	Posted - 2013.11.08 13:47:00 - [15] - Quote I still need more data to write the guide. Please submit your settings if you have not already done so! +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Laurent Cazaderon What The French 2079	Posted - 2013.11.08 13:49:00 - [16] - Quote Good idea ! I'll pitch in when i can get the data. One question though, what is the PS3 home screen definition thingy ? This Char i only use on the forum. To contact me : "Cazaderon" in game and on Skype. Et vive la France !
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 369	Posted - 2013.11.08 13:51:00 - [17] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Good idea ! I'll pitch in when i can get the data. One question though, what is the PS3 home screen definition thingy ? Ah, it is the mouse sensitivity setting of the PS3 in the PS3 settings. It is related to using the mouse in web browsing for example. Took a while to find it for me :) +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 369	Posted - 2013.11.08 14:01:00 - [18] - Quote I am doing experiments on my own to see how the different combination of settings work out with my Logitech G500. +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 126	Posted - 2013.11.08 14:16:00 - [19] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Good idea ! I'll pitch in when i can get the data. One question though, what is the PS3 home screen definition thingy ? Ah, it is the mouse sensitivity setting of the PS3 in the PS3 settings. It is related to using the mouse in web browsing for example. Took a while to find it for me :) Thanks for this, I had no idea there was a PS3 setting for the mouse. I put my details in - however my PS3 settings are measured in slow, normal and fast, not low, medium and high.
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2270	Posted - 2013.11.08 14:18:00 - [20] - Quote Is there an optimal setting for mouse speed on the ps3? -ê HellsGÇáorm Director -ê `Gû¦Amarr VictorGû¦`

Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 384	Posted - 2013.11.08 14:19:00 - [21] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Good idea ! I'll pitch in when i can get the data. One question though, what is the PS3 home screen definition thingy ? Ah, it is the mouse sensitivity setting of the PS3 in the PS3 settings. It is related to using the mouse in web browsing for example. Took a while to find it for me :) Thanks for this, I had no idea there was a PS3 setting for the mouse. I put my details in - however my PS3 settings are measured in slow, normal and fast, not low, medium and high. Ok, thanks. Didnt remember exactly what they called it, and didnt have access to a PS3 when I wrote this poll. :) +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Laurent Cazaderon What The French 2098	Posted - 2013.11.09 14:05:00 - [22] - Quote I had no idea this existed. Will try and tweak it. This Char i only use on the forum. To contact me : "Cazaderon" in game and on Skype. Et vive la France !
Laurent Cazaderon What The French 2098	Posted - 2013.11.09 14:09:00 - [23] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: I am doing experiments on my own to see how the different combination of settings work out with my Logitech G500. Edit: Laurent, can you ask CCP devs what polling rate they recommend to run with on the PS3? This is a bit unclear, and people seem to be using everything between 100-1000 Hz. Edit1: Laurent, please also ask CCP devs if the DS3 sensitivity settings could have any effect on the mouse performance. I will try this hypothesis tonight. Will do :) Regarding the second point though, i dont think it does anything. I played with controller these last days and changed settings many times without sensing any difference with my mouse. This Char i only use on the forum. To contact me : "Cazaderon" in game and on Skype. Et vive la France !
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 384	Posted - 2013.11.09 14:41:00 - [24] - Quote I have finished one experiment so far: PS3 home menu mouse sensivitiy - Fast Polling Rate - 125 Hz Ingame Sensitivity - 0 Then tune mouse DPI until you have the sensitivity you want. This was working like a charm for me. Going to use this as a "base" to compare other combinations of settings. Got a lot of work to do ;) +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 384	Posted - 2013.11.09 18:52:00 - [25] - Quote Still need some more answers to my poll, until I can draw some conclusions from this and my experiements! +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Laurent Cazaderon What The French 2101	Posted - 2013.11.09 22:28:00 - [26] - Quote btw dude. i cant access the result of the poll. :) This Char i only use on the forum. To contact me : "Cazaderon" in game and on Skype. Et vive la France !
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 388	Posted - 2013.11.10 07:05:00 - [27] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: btw dude. i cant access the result of the poll. :) Opened the poll results up for everyone with the link now. Hope it works this time +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 401	Posted - 2013.11.11 08:56:00 - [28] - Quote Update (2013-11-11): Laurent: Any reply from CCP devs yet? Would be great to remove some variables from my tests. My expected answer is that polling rate should be set as low as possible. I have started analysing the data, and it seems rather random right now. Will try to find some correlations and see if that is what I experience as well when trying that combination out. +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 401	Posted - 2013.11.11 09:49:00 - [29] - Quote Update 2 (2013-11-11) Could some people try these settings out and give me some feedback if there are improvements: 1. Set your mouse polling rate as low as possible (100 or 125 Hz). 2. Goto PS3 XMB menu -> AccesSory Settings -> Pointer Speed Set the pointer speed to "Slow" 3. Set your mouse sensitivity to 60 (This is the default value). 4. Set your mouse smoothing to OFF. 5. Tune your DPI setting in the mouse do that you get the correct sensitivity. 6. Report if the mouse feels better in this thread. +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 401	Posted - 2013.11.11 10:07:00 - [30] - Quote Rei you have the possibility to try this out? +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."

Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 407	Posted - 2013.11.11 12:03:00 - [31] - Quote I noticed something interesting yesterday: When I was testing PS3 XMB mouse setting - High, the radial menus in dust went crazy. +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Shadow heat Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 165	Posted - 2013.11.11 12:21:00 - [32] - Quote I know you have good intentions, but the problem is not with settings. You can try one million combinations, and the mouse will still feel wrong. Is impossible to find the right settings when the options are not there. Raw Input doesn't exist in Dust 514, and we don't have an acceleration setup option. Without that two things is impossible to find the "right "settings. Also the dead zone is to wide, and is not a setup option to change it. Fun is the enjoyment of pleasure, particularly in leisure activities.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 424	Posted - 2013.11.11 20:40:00 - [33] - Quote Noone else has done this kind of research. I have even looked into UT3 optimal mouse settings for PS3. Most players in the poll seem to have XMB sensitivity high, which might not be the best. I have also submit a support ticket to CCP asking for help on how to set up this optimally. Please answer the poll if you have not done so already. Good night! +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 446	Posted - 2013.11.12 15:52:00 - [34] - Quote Still need more data to figure out the 'best you can do' settings for dust 514. Please take a minute to respond to the survey if you are using a mouse when playing. +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 490	Posted - 2013.11.14 11:21:00 - [35] - Quote Update: I have tried playing with keyboard and mouse in 576p resolution. This gave a significant improvement in over all gameplay, including keyboard and mouse input lag (stuff actually happens when you press the button, not 1 second later). If you want to see a great example of this, try cooking a grenade in 720p resolution, then switch to 576p (480p for US players) and try cooking a grenade again. You will certainly notice the difference. I remember that I have read somewhere that the unreal engine 3 the mouse performance is related to framerate. Do not know the exact technical reason for it. I believe it is related to the fact that you cannot syncronize the mouse with the v-sync. I also believe it is due to the fact that the FPS is around 30 frames/s, and the mouse is 100 updates/s. This will cause 'aliasing' (meaning high frequency content such as fast movements are "folded" into the low frequency part of the signal, causing strange behaviours) in the input->display relation by the known Nyquist sampling theorem. +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. I Support SP Rollover. "Core Locus 514. AR 514. Bricktank 514. COD 514."
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 497	Posted - 2013.11.14 19:46:00 - [36] - Quote Shameless bump. +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. I Support SP Rollover. "Core Locus 514. AR 514. Bricktank 514. COD 514."
IceStormers Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 88	Posted - 2013.11.23 16:48:00 - [37] - Quote Please keep up the good work, the mouse may have issues but anything positive to inform the community on how to improve the settings is much appreciated I have since changed my settings From 1000Hz to 100Hz and the mouse is now much faster, odd impact to have Its the Dust setting i want to get confirmed before i start messing with my DPI I dont want to artificiality slow down or speed up my mouse, thats why i have the option to adjust my DPI, problem currently is the Screen rez is so low the DPI is wayyy down so im looking to find out what Zero impact sensitivity setting is, default is 60 so is it that, is it 50 or is it 0 100 is way to fast to be zero impact, i expect its 0 but would rather have it confirmed as that feels slightly slow, it feels around 20 (not working) but that could be due to low screen rez I Support SP Rollover Why is KB/M being ignored
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 588	Posted - 2013.11.23 18:57:00 - [38] - Quote I have submitted a very detailed question ticket to CCP customer support regarding all of the settings in the poll. I am currently awaiting response from them (as they sent the question to the dev team). This is why the thread has been a little bit inactive. Will finish the guide when CCP has answered me . KDR > ALL ME > KDR ME > ALL
Funkmaster Whale Fatal Absolution 1213	Posted - 2013.11.23 19:11:00 - [39] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Update: I have tried playing with keyboard and mouse in 576p resolution. This gave a significant improvement in over all gameplay, including keyboard and mouse input lag (stuff actually happens when you press the button, not 1 second later). If you want to see a great example of this, try cooking a grenade in 720p resolution, then switch to 576p (480p for US players) and try cooking a grenade again. You will certainly notice the difference. I remember that I have read somewhere that the unreal engine 3 the mouse performance is related to framerate. Do not know the exact technical reason for it. I believe it is related to the fact that you cannot syncronize the mouse with the v-sync. I also believe it is due to the fact that the FPS is around 30 frames/s, and the mouse is 100 updates/s. This will cause 'aliasing' (meaning high frequency content such as fast movements are "folded" into the low frequency part of the signal, causing strange behaviours) in the input->display relation by the known Nyquist sampling theorem. I notice huge diacrepencies in my aimin ability in regards to framerate. Not only does the input lag get greater but it definitely feels extremely inconsistent. I really hope we see something in 1.7 regarding framerate and/or mouse aiming because I've become so fed up with it that I don't even play the game anymore because of it. Let me play you the song of my people!
Ron Bennington 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 0	Posted - 2013.12.05 02:02:00 - [40] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Update 2 (2013-11-11) Could some people try these settings out and give me some feedback if there are improvements: 1. Set your mouse polling rate as low as possible (100 or 125 Hz). 2. Goto PS3 XMB menu -> AccesSory Settings -> Pointer Speed Set the pointer speed to "Slow" 3. Set your mouse sensitivity to 60 (This is the default value). 4. Set your mouse smoothing to OFF. 5. Tune your DPI setting in the mouse do that you get the correct sensitivity. 6. Report if the mouse feels better in this thread. I tried this along with switching to 480p, and my mouse is working much more like it should. I can do a 180 turn going from each side of the mouse pad at any given speed and get the same results. Before doing this my mouse would actually rotate the player faster when moved across the pad at a slow speed, and slower when swiped fast. Though my game looks like ****, my aim is back on point. Thank you sir Also, I had to reduce my DPI to ~105, which is not a normal setting. But hey, whatever works :D My mouse: Steel Series Sensei, great piece of hardware. Has a little lcd screen on the bottom that lets you configure mouse accel/polling rate/etc.

Ron Bennington 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 3	Posted - 2013.12.05 02:11:00 - [41] - Quote Ron Bennington wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: Update 2 (2013-11-11) Could some people try these settings out and give me some feedback if there are improvements: 1. Set your mouse polling rate as low as possible (100 or 125 Hz). 2. Goto PS3 XMB menu -> AccesSory Settings -> Pointer Speed Set the pointer speed to "Slow" 3. Set your mouse sensitivity to 60 (This is the default value). 4. Set your mouse smoothing to OFF. 5. Tune your DPI setting in the mouse do that you get the correct sensitivity. 6. Report if the mouse feels better in this thread. I tried this along with switching to 480p, and my mouse is working much more like it should. I can do a 180 turn going from each side of the mouse pad at any given speed and get the same results. Before doing this my mouse would actually rotate the player faster when moved across the pad at a slow speed, and slower when swiped fast. Though my game looks like ****, my aim is back on point. Thank you sir Also, I had to reduce my DPI to ~105, which is not a normal setting. But hey, whatever works :D My mouse: Steel Series Sensei, great piece of hardware. Has a little lcd screen on the bottom that lets you configure mouse accel/polling rate/etc. Good news. I get the same performance at 720p, so there's no reason to have poopy graphics. You have my thanks. I'll be passing this around.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1106	Posted - 2014.01.28 20:54:00 - [42] - Quote Anyone else try these settings? Prepare for 1.8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPhISgw3I2w


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