DUST Search - CCP, you need to hot fix the triple SP event ASAP (with disturbing math)

Vin Mora wrote:

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

Vin Mora wrote:

Aero Yassavi wrote:

Just to be clear, when you are in battle there are three types of SP being awarded.

1 SP per 1 WP, counted towards your active skill points. This is being tripled.

5 SP per 1 second in battle, this is only obtained when you are in a match and is counted as active skill points and is part of the skill points displayed at the end of the battle. This will not be tripled (foolishly).

1 SP per 3.6 seconds, which would of been gained regardless of whether you were in a battle or not. This is counted as passive SP, and obviously isn't tripled.

Now the problem here is that there are two parts to the active skill points, and only the lesser one is tripled. Meanwhile, the active skill point cap is tripled. So let's break out the math. Assume a match of Skirmish on average lasts 15 minutes, and the average Joe gets 1000 war points a match. So that is

Normal Week
15 minutes * 60 seconds / minute * 5 SP / second = 4,500 SP
1000 WP * 1 SP / WP = 1,000 SP
Total SP gained from battle: 5,500 SP
Weekly Cap: 190,400 SP
Matches to cap out: 190,400 SP / 5,500 SP / match) = 34.618 matches >>> 35 matches to cap out

Triple SP Event Done Properly
15 minutes * 60 seconds / minute * 5 SP / second * 3 = 13,500 SP
1000 WP * 1 SP / WP * 3 = 3,000 SP
Total SP gained from battle: 16,500 SP
Weekly Cap: 190,400 SP * 3 = 571,200 SP
Matches to cap out: 571,200 SP / (16,500 SP / match) = 34.618 matches >>> 35 matches to cap out

Triple SP Even in Reality
15 minutes * 60 seconds / minute * 5 SP / second = 4,500 SP
1000 WP * 1 SP/ WP * 3 = 3,000 SP
Total SP gained from battle: 7,500 SP
Weekly Cap: 190,400 SP * 3 = 571,200 SP
Matches t cap out: 571,200 SP / (7,500 SP / match) = 76.16 matches >>> 77 matches to cap out

Now look, I know this is all SP we wouldn't normally be getting and it may sound like I'm acting entitled, but please leave those pity arguments behind. People want to cap out so they don't feel like they are missing out, but because of the way CCP has implemented this triple SP event, they are asking people to more than double their play time which is absurd! I believe CCP said they only started doing WP only getting counted for bonus SP events to avoid AFK players, but since then they have implemented the AFK kick system and the truth of the matter is that this only encourages people to get a rubber band and AFK anyways. Who has time for 77 matches in one week?

Come on CCP, show us you have common sense!

So you're lazy? Because that I am that I seeing when I read between the lines.

It's not laziness. That is a major time investment a lot of people simply do not have.

Then play what you can and stop complaining. If you don't have the time to cap, then don't. You don't HAVE to cap to out.


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Himiko Kuronaga The Generals EoN. 2169	Posted - 2013.11.06 14:06:00 - [1] - Quote Vin Mora wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Just to be clear, when you are in battle there are three types of SP being awarded. 1 SP per 1 WP, counted towards your active skill points. This is being tripled. 5 SP per 1 second in battle, this is only obtained when you are in a match and is counted as active skill points and is part of the skill points displayed at the end of the battle. This will not be tripled (foolishly). 1 SP per 3.6 seconds, which would of been gained regardless of whether you were in a battle or not. This is counted as passive SP, and obviously isn't tripled. Now the problem here is that there are two parts to the active skill points, and only the lesser one is tripled. Meanwhile, the active skill point cap is tripled. So let's break out the math. Assume a match of Skirmish on average lasts 15 minutes, and the average Joe gets 1000 war points a match. So that is Normal Week 15 minutes * 60 seconds / minute * 5 SP / second = 4,500 SP 1000 WP * 1 SP / WP = 1,000 SP Total SP gained from battle: 5,500 SP Weekly Cap: 190,400 SP Matches to cap out: 190,400 SP / 5,500 SP / match) = 34.618 matches >>> 35 matches to cap out Triple SP Event Done Properly 15 minutes * 60 seconds / minute * 5 SP / second * 3 = 13,500 SP 1000 WP * 1 SP / WP * 3 = 3,000 SP Total SP gained from battle: 16,500 SP Weekly Cap: 190,400 SP * 3 = 571,200 SP Matches to cap out: 571,200 SP / (16,500 SP / match) = 34.618 matches >>> 35 matches to cap out Triple SP Even in Reality 15 minutes * 60 seconds / minute * 5 SP / second = 4,500 SP 1000 WP * 1 SP/ WP * 3 = 3,000 SP Total SP gained from battle: 7,500 SP Weekly Cap: 190,400 SP * 3 = 571,200 SP Matches t cap out: 571,200 SP / (7,500 SP / match) = 76.16 matches >>> 77 matches to cap out Now look, I know this is all SP we wouldn't normally be getting and it may sound like I'm acting entitled, but please leave those pity arguments behind. People want to cap out so they don't feel like they are missing out, but because of the way CCP has implemented this triple SP event, they are asking people to more than double their play time which is absurd! I believe CCP said they only started doing WP only getting counted for bonus SP events to avoid AFK players, but since then they have implemented the AFK kick system and the truth of the matter is that this only encourages people to get a rubber band and AFK anyways. Who has time for 77 matches in one week? Come on CCP, show us you have common sense! So you're lazy? Because that I am that I seeing when I read between the lines. It's not laziness. That is a major time investment a lot of people simply do not have.
Himiko Kuronaga The Generals EoN. 2171	Posted - 2013.11.06 14:40:00 - [2] - Quote Vin Mora wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Vin Mora wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Just to be clear, when you are in battle there are three types of SP being awarded. 1 SP per 1 WP, counted towards your active skill points. This is being tripled. 5 SP per 1 second in battle, this is only obtained when you are in a match and is counted as active skill points and is part of the skill points displayed at the end of the battle. This will not be tripled (foolishly). 1 SP per 3.6 seconds, which would of been gained regardless of whether you were in a battle or not. This is counted as passive SP, and obviously isn't tripled. Now the problem here is that there are two parts to the active skill points, and only the lesser one is tripled. Meanwhile, the active skill point cap is tripled. So let's break out the math. Assume a match of Skirmish on average lasts 15 minutes, and the average Joe gets 1000 war points a match. So that is Normal Week 15 minutes * 60 seconds / minute * 5 SP / second = 4,500 SP 1000 WP * 1 SP / WP = 1,000 SP Total SP gained from battle: 5,500 SP Weekly Cap: 190,400 SP Matches to cap out: 190,400 SP / 5,500 SP / match) = 34.618 matches >>> 35 matches to cap out Triple SP Event Done Properly 15 minutes * 60 seconds / minute * 5 SP / second * 3 = 13,500 SP 1000 WP * 1 SP / WP * 3 = 3,000 SP Total SP gained from battle: 16,500 SP Weekly Cap: 190,400 SP * 3 = 571,200 SP Matches to cap out: 571,200 SP / (16,500 SP / match) = 34.618 matches >>> 35 matches to cap out Triple SP Even in Reality 15 minutes * 60 seconds / minute * 5 SP / second = 4,500 SP 1000 WP * 1 SP/ WP * 3 = 3,000 SP Total SP gained from battle: 7,500 SP Weekly Cap: 190,400 SP * 3 = 571,200 SP Matches t cap out: 571,200 SP / (7,500 SP / match) = 76.16 matches >>> 77 matches to cap out Now look, I know this is all SP we wouldn't normally be getting and it may sound like I'm acting entitled, but please leave those pity arguments behind. People want to cap out so they don't feel like they are missing out, but because of the way CCP has implemented this triple SP event, they are asking people to more than double their play time which is absurd! I believe CCP said they only started doing WP only getting counted for bonus SP events to avoid AFK players, but since then they have implemented the AFK kick system and the truth of the matter is that this only encourages people to get a rubber band and AFK anyways. Who has time for 77 matches in one week? Come on CCP, show us you have common sense! So you're lazy? Because that I am that I seeing when I read between the lines. It's not laziness. That is a major time investment a lot of people simply do not have. Then play what you can and stop complaining. If you don't have the time to cap, then don't. You don't HAVE to cap to out. I have the time at the moment. Others don't. There is no reason the people who don't should miss out on the additional SP. Arguing against this is without just cause. You are wrong, and it sounds as if you have no grasp of the working world. You appear to have no respect or empathy for those who are clearly more responsible than you, either. I would even go so far as to say you probably have Oppositional Defiance Disorder, as there is no clear motivation for your argument other than to simply argue and be heard. Thank you for sharing your opinion with the adults. In the future, I would recommend not doing so.