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Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3590	Posted - 2013.11.06 13:40:00 - [1] - Quote Just to be clear, when you are in battle there are three types of SP being awarded. 1 SP per 1 WP, counted towards your active skill points. This is being tripled. 5 SP per 1 second in battle, this is only obtained when you are in a match and is counted as active skill points and is part of the skill points displayed at the end of the battle. This will not be tripled (foolishly). 1 SP per 3.6 seconds, which would of been gained regardless of whether you were in a battle or not. This is counted as passive SP, and obviously isn't tripled. Now the problem here is that there are two parts to the active skill points, and only the lesser one is tripled. Meanwhile, the active skill point cap is tripled. So let's break out the math. Assume a match of Skirmish on average lasts 15 minutes, and the average Joe gets 1000 war points a match. So that is Normal Week 15 minutes * 60 seconds / minute * 5 SP / second = 4,500 SP 1000 WP * 1 SP / WP = 1,000 SP Total SP gained from battle: 5,500 SP Weekly Cap: 190,400 SP Matches to cap out: 190,400 SP / 5,500 SP / match) = 34.618 matches >>> 35 matches to cap out Triple SP Event Done Properly 15 minutes * 60 seconds / minute * 5 SP / second * 3 = 13,500 SP 1000 WP * 1 SP / WP * 3 = 3,000 SP Total SP gained from battle: 16,500 SP Weekly Cap: 190,400 SP * 3 = 571,200 SP Matches to cap out: 571,200 SP / (16,500 SP / match) = 34.618 matches >>> 35 matches to cap out Triple SP Even in Reality 15 minutes * 60 seconds / minute * 5 SP / second = 4,500 SP 1000 WP * 1 SP/ WP * 3 = 3,000 SP Total SP gained from battle: 7,500 SP Weekly Cap: 190,400 SP * 3 = 571,200 SP Matches t cap out: 571,200 SP / (7,500 SP / match) = 76.16 matches >>> 77 matches to cap out Now look, I know this is all SP we wouldn't normally be getting and it may sound like I'm acting entitled, but please leave those pity arguments behind. People want to cap out so they don't feel like they are missing out, but because of the way CCP has implemented this triple SP event, they are asking people to more than double their play time which is absurd! I believe CCP said they only started doing WP only getting counted for bonus SP events to avoid AFK players, but since then they have implemented the AFK kick system and the truth of the matter is that this only encourages people to get a rubber band and AFK anyways. Who has time for 77 matches in one week? Come on CCP, show us you have common sense! Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3590	Posted - 2013.11.06 13:45:00 - [2] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: You think that is bad, i have an active omega booster for this event I have 1.2mil to grind out Active boosters have no effect on how much grinding is required. All it does is give you bonus SP that is not counted towards your cap. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3591	Posted - 2013.11.06 13:55:00 - [3] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Never noticed that in previous events. guess i had an awful lot of time then The math is all there. During the double SP events where they made this mistake, the grind was a bit rough but I was able to do it. Now with a triple SP event, the grind is insane. Going from 5 matches a day to 11 matches a day. That is going from 1 hour 15 minutes a day to 2 hours 45 minutes a day. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3607	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:17:00 - [4] - Quote Vin Mora wrote: Then play what you can and stop complaining. If you don't have the time to cap, then don't. You don't HAVE to cap to out. Read the bottom part of the OP. There's a difference in not being able to cap out and CCP making it take over twice as long to cap out. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3607	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:19:00 - [5] - Quote Vin Mora wrote: General John Ripper wrote: I disapprove of forcing players to grind. Triple everything CCP! That would also reward the AFKs, this method rewards active players. This method is going to encourage people who normally don't AFK to AFK because they dont have time to cap and they will resort to AFK to cap. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3610	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:30:00 - [6] - Quote Guildo Crow wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Vin Mora wrote: Then play what you can and stop complaining. If you don't have the time to cap, then don't. You don't HAVE to cap to out. Read the bottom part of the OP. There's a difference in not being able to cap out and CCP making it take over twice as long to cap out. He should add how long it takes with the triple SP event to "cap out" normally. (~190k SP) Roughly around 25 matches opposed to the 35 originally. I'd see that as a boon. You must of misread, I did put that in the OP. Roughly 35 NORMALLY and 77 with this event (going on the basis of the average Joe who gets 1000 WP a match). Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3612	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:47:00 - [7] - Quote XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Vin Mora wrote: General John Ripper wrote: I disapprove of forcing players to grind. Triple everything CCP! That would also reward the AFKs, this method rewards active players. This method is going to encourage people who normally don't AFK to AFK because they dont have time to cap and they will resort to AFK to cap. really? so they have time to sit at home and Que up afk matches but not actually pick up the sticks and shoot someone WTF? Yeah dude. I could put a rubber band on my controller and go get some work done. I could do some laundry, wash some dishes, clean up around the house, mow the yard, cook some food, and whatever else you have to do while you're at home. All I'd have to do is check back every 15 minutes or so and go back to doing what I was doing. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3614	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:50:00 - [8] - Quote THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: Bunch of whiners! I'm not sure if you guys are aware of this, but you won't die if you don't get 100% of the bonus SP. Infact, if you only got an extra 100K you still got more than you would without an event. If your life doesn't accommodate the time needed to reach cap that's not CCP's problem...it's a terrible terrible crying shame, but you'll live. Read the bottom part of the OP. I really shouldn't have to argue with people like you. Yes we are getting more SP than we would of normally, but it's implemented terribly. This isn't just "it's too hard to hit the cap," it is "they more than doubled how long it takes to hit the cap." That is going to affect a lot more than just my skill points, as towards the end of the week we are going to see a ton of AFKers ruining the game. And that's ironic, because the only reason CCP switched to this method of only applying the multiplier to war points was to reduce AFKers. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3614	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:53:00 - [9] - Quote XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: if you spent more time playing & grinding and less time on the forums commenting and complaining you just might be able to grind out this weeks cap You are missing the point buddy Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3614	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:55:00 - [10] - Quote XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Yeah dude. I could put a rubber band on my controller and go get some work done. I could do some laundry, wash some dishes, clean up around the house, mow the yard, cook some food, and whatever else you have to do while you're at home. All I'd have to do is check back every 15 minutes or so and go back to doing what I was doing. well there you go just afk and you will be fine but wait did you do the math for the afk grind? I bet it will take even longer then just playing seventy something matches It'll take longer, but the people who decide to AFK don't actually have to play. How can you not grasp that concept? Do you honestly think the people who AFK are sitting in front of their screen waiting for the game to end? Hint: AFK stands for AWAY From Keyboard. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!

Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3643	Posted - 2013.11.07 08:57:00 - [11] - Quote Shijima Kuraimaru wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Entitlement? Just make the event like it was before at the beginning of Uprising and we wouldn't have any complaints. No one has time to play Dust for 30+ hours, all this "event" does is punish casual players for having a life. Yes. Entitlement. Because CCP didn't have to do this. This is not entitlement. Do you honestly think it's a good idea for CCP to more than double the time required to cap out? I bet you're one of those people who argues the normal SP cap should be doubled or lifted entirely. There is a reason we have a cap. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3644	Posted - 2013.11.07 09:06:00 - [12] - Quote Updated the OP. People crying "Entitlement" please GTFO as you have no clue what you are talking about. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3644	Posted - 2013.11.07 09:08:00 - [13] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: What would you guys complain about if there was no cap? Lots of people want there to be no cap at all. Would you complain about that? With the triple SP it is just like having no cap. I don't understand what you people want. A lot of people want no cap? I'd say minority want no cap. You must have no clue what the consequences for no cap would be, and it is far greater than some random kid having 100 million SP. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!

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