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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.06 18:35:00 -
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Justice Prevails wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It's not just playing as a scout.
If someone is losing a gunfight to you, they spam their grenades. Often, they just spam grenades without even bothering with their gun.
Uncooked grenades on their own aren't particularly annoying, but when you have two or three thrown at you EVERY SINGLE TIME you start shooting someone, it really starts to be a pain. If you are beating me in a gunfight, or I am outnumbered, outgunned or outtanked, of course I am going to nade you. There is no bonus for dying with honor. My job is to kill you by whatever means necessary. Even if it is by the grenades that I pay for and lose upon death. Use them or lose them.
So? I don't have a problem with people using a tool available to them. I have a problem with the tool being available.
It is not fun gameplay when every time you start to kill someone you have to suddenly deal with three nuclear snowballs.
Level 4 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Justice Prevails
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
75
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Posted - 2013.11.06 18:44:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Panic 'nades, ENGAGE!
That feeling of panic is one the reasons I enjoy this game. You just won a 1 on 1, health is low, you start to relax a little then:
Noooooooo! Shotgun scout in your face. Where the **** did he come from? (I usually ask this as I'm respawning).
I guess dropping a nade is the game equivalent of dropping a deuce. :-)
Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
2632
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Posted - 2013.11.06 18:52:00 -
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It's just way too easy to switch to your grenade and back to your weapon.
In fact we change our sidearms and other **** way too quickly in this game. 1 second to pull out my submachine gun, lol really? what universe is this?
The newer the berry the dumber the juice.
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8213
Grade No.2
548
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Posted - 2013.11.06 19:05:00 -
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Lately, all I get from Scouts is them cooking nades and going on suicide missions.
Because often DUST Player Logic is, "Well, I can't shoot him quick enough, so I'll just use a grenade..."
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
2011
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Posted - 2013.11.06 19:56:00 -
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8213 wrote:Lately, all I get from Scouts is them cooking nades and going on suicide missions.
Because often DUST Player Logic is, "Well, I can't shoot him quick enough, so I'll just use a grenade..."
Assuming Scout's TTK is at or under 0.5 seconds:
Target HP > 3 Shotgun Blasts = Low odds of Scout success
Target HP = 1 Surprise Nade + 1 Shotgun Blast = Greater odds of Scout success |
Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
154
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Posted - 2013.11.06 21:10:00 -
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The grenade whining is getting out of hand. You guys think the ideal encounter is a group of mercs lined up shoulder to shoulder followed closely by a group of logis? Tired of being killed by grenades, trade a few of your damage mods for shield extenders. Solved. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2293
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Posted - 2013.11.06 21:14:00 -
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Everyone gets grenade spammed not just scouts
Funnily enough that fraction of a second they take to throw a grenade gives me just enough time to secure a kill and high tail it out of there if all they do is grenade spam to defend
Im not drunk, the planet just happens to be especially wobbly today.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1904
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Posted - 2013.11.06 21:29:00 -
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Luk Manag wrote:The grenade whining is getting out of hand. You guys think the ideal encounter is a group of mercs lined up shoulder to shoulder followed closely by a group of logis? Tired of being killed by grenades, trade a few of your damage mods for shield extenders. Solved.
Not complaining I just find it strange.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 1
Fix my class already
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
227
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Posted - 2013.11.06 21:47:00 -
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I'll use a grenade on a scout if I get the jump on him from behind. I'll also use a grenade on almost anyone if i'm starting to run low on my clip and want to reload. I seem to have less luck with grenades against heavies and high HP assaults/logis, so i'm less inclined to use grenades against those classes. I generally save my grenades for groups of reds and things like doorways/hallways.
I personally don't think grenades are that bad right now, other than those times when a perfectly cooked/thrown grenade does absolutely no damage. But I haven't played much since 1.6 hit, so maybe that's been changed. Don't get me wrong, I die to grenades all the time. But more often than not, it's either cause I got froggy and ran up into a whole mess of reds when I should have held back, or chased someone blindly around a corner when, again, I should have held back, or if someone just flat out nails me with a perfect throw, which I can't really complain about. And I do run an assault suit, i'm sure that helps.
The nade spam thing with the nanohives, or at a supply depot, is pretty annoying, but I don't see it to much. I don't know if it's a problem in PC, for the most part in pubs if the opposing team beat you with the nade spam, they were probably going to beat you anyway.
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Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
154
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:22:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Luk Manag wrote:The grenade whining is getting out of hand. You guys think the ideal encounter is a group of mercs lined up shoulder to shoulder followed closely by a group of logis? Tired of being killed by grenades, trade a few of your damage mods for shield extenders. Solved. Not complaining I just find it strange.
My bad then, I just misunderstood the tone. There's a pattern that CCP follows; if more than a couple people speak out against grenades, then grenades will get the nerf hammer. I'm just worried that the grenades will be double-nerfed, reduced AOE and damage, to the point they wouldn't work to scare someone out of cover, or discourage a shotgun scout from charging. |
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1926
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:29:00 -
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Luk Manag wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Luk Manag wrote:The grenade whining is getting out of hand. You guys think the ideal encounter is a group of mercs lined up shoulder to shoulder followed closely by a group of logis? Tired of being killed by grenades, trade a few of your damage mods for shield extenders. Solved. Not complaining I just find it strange. My bad then, I just misunderstood the tone. There's a pattern that CCP follows; if more than a couple people speak out against grenades, then grenades will get the nerf hammer. I'm just worried that the grenades will be double-nerfed, reduced AOE and damage, to the point they wouldn't work to scare someone out of cover, or discourage a shotgun scout from charging.
Trust me I'm the last one to say an explosive needs a nerf.
Anyone who knows me personally knows why 
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 1
Fix my class already
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Verek Locusti
Closed For Business
For All Mankind
3
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:30:00 -
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8213 wrote:Lately, all I get from Scouts is them cooking nades and going on suicide missions.
Because often DUST Player Logic is, "Well, I can't shoot him quick enough, so I'll just use a grenade..."
You're on a suicide mission as soon as you spawn in a scout suit, why not toss a few nades before you go down? |
pseudosnipre
DUST University
Ivy League
335
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:49:00 -
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Had a medium frame fastball a grenade at my scout last night...the resultant killfeed said roadkill. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
2335
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Posted - 2013.11.24 22:24:00 -
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Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 2
A grunt of STB
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