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Eris Ernaga
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.11.06 11:42:00 -
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Seeing a red in a militia/basic suit who prior to 1.4/aim assist had no skill what so ever and now he's shooting through my proto suit like it's made of paper tissues. We aren't rewarding players for their skill any more, the system is doing it for them and that's sad to see, a lot of players have voiced there complaints with AA and I think the complaining has moved more over to hit detection now. I feel CCP is a bit in denial about AA, at EVE Vegas they were discussing Dust's past, present, and the future a Dev said that AA was a outstanding improvement to the old aiming system. Yes outstanding at pissing people off. CCP you need to treat Dust like a flower you have to be very delicate with it you can't keep jerking us around and I think that's what people liked most about Chromosome the fact that we didn't feel screwed and toyed with. This is the same way you treat EVE and the reason you haven't released a lot of updates for Dust like the market because you want to make sure it's eased in to EVE why aren't you showing the same care for Dust?
All I am saying is remove AA and TTK will go up and people will stop crying accept for the blues which I will laugh at, then we can enjoy a game that is based on skill not the system doing it for us. I hope the AA discussion doesn't die because it's a huge problem in game.
And remember heavys and scouts it doesn't matter if you have over 1k hit points or a 10 sprint speed AA is gonna track you and kill you in seconds. I built a logi with over 1k hp and got mowed down so quick even hit points don't matter anymore it's simply coming down to who places the shots first and is the most accurate with the AA system.
Ba bang baby
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
688
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Posted - 2013.11.06 11:44:00 -
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1k speed would be hilarious. If you run into someone with that, does it count as roadkill?
I go commando in my Commando. Feels good, man.
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Eris Ernaga
DUST University Ivy League
658
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Posted - 2013.11.06 11:46:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:1k speed would be hilarious. If you run into someone with that, does it count as roadkill?
lol sorry typo and fixed my head is all fuzzy tonight.
Ba bang baby
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
815
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Posted - 2013.11.06 11:49:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Seeing a red in a militia/basic suit who prior to 1.4/aim assist had no skill what so ever and now he's shooting through my proto suit like it's made of paper tissues. We aren't rewarding players for their skill any more, the system is doing it for them and that's sad to see, a lot of players have voiced there complaints with AA and I think the complaining has moved more over to hit detection now. I feel CCP is a bit in denial about AA, at EVE Vegas they were discussing Dust's past, present, and the future a Dev said that AA was a outstanding improvement to the old aiming system. Yes outstanding at pissing people off. CCP you need to treat Dust like a flower you have to be very delicate with it you can't keep jerking us around and I think that's what people liked most about Chromosome the fact that we didn't feel screwed and toyed with. This is the same way you treat EVE and the reason you haven't released a lot of updates for Dust like the market because you want to make sure it's eased in to EVE why aren't you showing the same care for Dust?
All I am saying is remove AA and TTK will go up and people will stop crying accept for the blues which I will laugh at then we can enjoy a game that is based on skill not the system doing it for us. I hope the AA discussion doesn't die because it's a huge problem in game.
And remember heavys and scouts it doesn't matter if you have over 1k hit points or a 10 sprint speed AA is gonna track you and kill you in seconds. I built a logi with over 1k hp and got mowed down so quick even hit points don't matter anymore it's simply coming down to who places the shots first and is the most accurate with the AA system.
Except us KBM users who are pushing a Virtual DS3 with all the negative effects associated with it except the fancy AA. Yet still are capable of killing multiple DS3 users before my gun overheats.
Idd like for the Virtual DS3 gets changed back to what we had in Chromosone, now that would be fun.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
317
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Posted - 2013.11.06 11:54:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Eris Ernaga wrote:Seeing a red in a militia/basic suit who prior to 1.4/aim assist had no skill what so ever and now he's shooting through my proto suit like it's made of paper tissues. We aren't rewarding players for their skill any more, the system is doing it for them and that's sad to see, a lot of players have voiced there complaints with AA and I think the complaining has moved more over to hit detection now. I feel CCP is a bit in denial about AA, at EVE Vegas they were discussing Dust's past, present, and the future a Dev said that AA was a outstanding improvement to the old aiming system. Yes outstanding at pissing people off. CCP you need to treat Dust like a flower you have to be very delicate with it you can't keep jerking us around and I think that's what people liked most about Chromosome the fact that we didn't feel screwed and toyed with. This is the same way you treat EVE and the reason you haven't released a lot of updates for Dust like the market because you want to make sure it's eased in to EVE why aren't you showing the same care for Dust?
All I am saying is remove AA and TTK will go up and people will stop crying accept for the blues which I will laugh at then we can enjoy a game that is based on skill not the system doing it for us. I hope the AA discussion doesn't die because it's a huge problem in game.
And remember heavys and scouts it doesn't matter if you have over 1k hit points or a 10 sprint speed AA is gonna track you and kill you in seconds. I built a logi with over 1k hp and got mowed down so quick even hit points don't matter anymore it's simply coming down to who places the shots first and is the most accurate with the AA system. Except us KBM users who are pushing a Virtual DS3 with all the negative effects associated with it except the fancy AA. Yet still are capable of killing multiple DS3 users before my gun overheats. Idd like for the Virtual DS3 gets changed back to what we had in Chromosone, now that would be fun.
Thinking about fixing the problem by soldering together a GIMX. If I do, and get it working, I will start selling them cheaply to dust KB/M players.
CCP please make our decisions matter.
AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
450
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Posted - 2013.11.06 11:56:00 -
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this is CCP. name one thing they've done so far other than adding new maps that has been an improvement to this game since 1.4. if you can then props to you.
IMHO this game was much better back pre 1.4. sure hit detection was fuzzy and LAVs were OP, but at least there were more weapons to use other than the AR.
i dont see how CCP thinks that buffing the AR patch after patch while indirectly nerfing everything else is going to keep people playing. at this point i'm not getting my hopes up for 1.7. i did that for 1.6's alleged fixes to Nova Knives and if anything, Nova Knives are worse now then before with the extremely short TTK with the assault rifle.
reluctantly, i quote:
Quote:Welcome to AR 514...
How exactly does a Biscuit gain Valor?
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Eris Ernaga
DUST University Ivy League
659
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Posted - 2013.11.06 12:02:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:this is CCP. name one thing they've done so far other than adding new maps that has been an improvement to this game since 1.4. if you can then props to you. IMHO this game was much better back pre 1.4. sure hit detection was fuzzy and LAVs were OP, but at least there were more weapons to use other than the AR. i dont see how CCP thinks that buffing the AR patch after patch while indirectly nerfing everything else is going to keep people playing. at this point i'm not getting my hopes up for 1.7. i did that for 1.6's alleged fixes to Nova Knives and if anything, Nova Knives are worse now then before with the extremely short TTK with the assault rifle. reluctantly, i quote: Quote:Welcome to AR 514...
Squad finder
Ba bang baby
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
816
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Posted - 2013.11.06 12:03:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Eris Ernaga wrote:Seeing a red in a militia/basic suit who prior to 1.4/aim assist had no skill what so ever and now he's shooting through my proto suit like it's made of paper tissues. We aren't rewarding players for their skill any more, the system is doing it for them and that's sad to see, a lot of players have voiced there complaints with AA and I think the complaining has moved more over to hit detection now. I feel CCP is a bit in denial about AA, at EVE Vegas they were discussing Dust's past, present, and the future a Dev said that AA was a outstanding improvement to the old aiming system. Yes outstanding at pissing people off. CCP you need to treat Dust like a flower you have to be very delicate with it you can't keep jerking us around and I think that's what people liked most about Chromosome the fact that we didn't feel screwed and toyed with. This is the same way you treat EVE and the reason you haven't released a lot of updates for Dust like the market because you want to make sure it's eased in to EVE why aren't you showing the same care for Dust?
All I am saying is remove AA and TTK will go up and people will stop crying accept for the blues which I will laugh at then we can enjoy a game that is based on skill not the system doing it for us. I hope the AA discussion doesn't die because it's a huge problem in game.
And remember heavys and scouts it doesn't matter if you have over 1k hit points or a 10 sprint speed AA is gonna track you and kill you in seconds. I built a logi with over 1k hp and got mowed down so quick even hit points don't matter anymore it's simply coming down to who places the shots first and is the most accurate with the AA system. Except us KBM users who are pushing a Virtual DS3 with all the negative effects associated with it except the fancy AA. Yet still are capable of killing multiple DS3 users before my gun overheats. Idd like for the Virtual DS3 gets changed back to what we had in Chromosone, now that would be fun. Thinking about fixing the problem by soldering together a GIMX. If I do, and get it working, I will start selling them cheaply to dust KB/M players.
I (and most other KBM users) dont really want to trade the Virtual DS3 without AA for another Virtual DS3 with AA, its already bad enough that age gets in te way of FPS skills, i wouldnt want my skills to wither completely by relying on something that aims for me.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
317
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Posted - 2013.11.06 12:06:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Eris Ernaga wrote:Seeing a red in a militia/basic suit who prior to 1.4/aim assist had no skill what so ever and now he's shooting through my proto suit like it's made of paper tissues. We aren't rewarding players for their skill any more, the system is doing it for them and that's sad to see, a lot of players have voiced there complaints with AA and I think the complaining has moved more over to hit detection now. I feel CCP is a bit in denial about AA, at EVE Vegas they were discussing Dust's past, present, and the future a Dev said that AA was a outstanding improvement to the old aiming system. Yes outstanding at pissing people off. CCP you need to treat Dust like a flower you have to be very delicate with it you can't keep jerking us around and I think that's what people liked most about Chromosome the fact that we didn't feel screwed and toyed with. This is the same way you treat EVE and the reason you haven't released a lot of updates for Dust like the market because you want to make sure it's eased in to EVE why aren't you showing the same care for Dust?
All I am saying is remove AA and TTK will go up and people will stop crying accept for the blues which I will laugh at then we can enjoy a game that is based on skill not the system doing it for us. I hope the AA discussion doesn't die because it's a huge problem in game.
And remember heavys and scouts it doesn't matter if you have over 1k hit points or a 10 sprint speed AA is gonna track you and kill you in seconds. I built a logi with over 1k hp and got mowed down so quick even hit points don't matter anymore it's simply coming down to who places the shots first and is the most accurate with the AA system. Except us KBM users who are pushing a Virtual DS3 with all the negative effects associated with it except the fancy AA. Yet still are capable of killing multiple DS3 users before my gun overheats. Idd like for the Virtual DS3 gets changed back to what we had in Chromosone, now that would be fun. Thinking about fixing the problem by soldering together a GIMX. If I do, and get it working, I will start selling them cheaply to dust KB/M players. I (and most other KBM users) dont really want to trade the Virtual DS3 without AA for another Virtual DS3 with AA, its already bad enough that age gets in te way of FPS skills, i wouldnt want my skills to wither completely by relying on something that aims for me.
I do not mean to use it to abuse aim assist, just to get more raw-like input without acceleration.
CCP please make our decisions matter.
AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514.
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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
920
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Posted - 2013.11.06 12:10:00 -
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Why has aim assist QQ resurfaced? They hadn't done anything to it! The fact hit detection is improved and everyone begins complaining about 1.4 aim assist (released at same time as HD ) begs to wonder!
Is it aim assisst or the power of weapons with working hit detection?
The pen is mightier than the sword
The gun is mightier than both
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
817
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Posted - 2013.11.06 12:14:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Eris Ernaga wrote:Seeing a red in a militia/basic suit who prior to 1.4/aim assist had no skill what so ever and now he's shooting through my proto suit like it's made of paper tissues. We aren't rewarding players for their skill any more, the system is doing it for them and that's sad to see, a lot of players have voiced there complaints with AA and I think the complaining has moved more over to hit detection now. I feel CCP is a bit in denial about AA, at EVE Vegas they were discussing Dust's past, present, and the future a Dev said that AA was a outstanding improvement to the old aiming system. Yes outstanding at pissing people off. CCP you need to treat Dust like a flower you have to be very delicate with it you can't keep jerking us around and I think that's what people liked most about Chromosome the fact that we didn't feel screwed and toyed with. This is the same way you treat EVE and the reason you haven't released a lot of updates for Dust like the market because you want to make sure it's eased in to EVE why aren't you showing the same care for Dust?
All I am saying is remove AA and TTK will go up and people will stop crying accept for the blues which I will laugh at then we can enjoy a game that is based on skill not the system doing it for us. I hope the AA discussion doesn't die because it's a huge problem in game.
And remember heavys and scouts it doesn't matter if you have over 1k hit points or a 10 sprint speed AA is gonna track you and kill you in seconds. I built a logi with over 1k hp and got mowed down so quick even hit points don't matter anymore it's simply coming down to who places the shots first and is the most accurate with the AA system. Except us KBM users who are pushing a Virtual DS3 with all the negative effects associated with it except the fancy AA. Yet still are capable of killing multiple DS3 users before my gun overheats. Idd like for the Virtual DS3 gets changed back to what we had in Chromosone, now that would be fun. Thinking about fixing the problem by soldering together a GIMX. If I do, and get it working, I will start selling them cheaply to dust KB/M players. I (and most other KBM users) dont really want to trade the Virtual DS3 without AA for another Virtual DS3 with AA, its already bad enough that age gets in te way of FPS skills, i wouldnt want my skills to wither completely by relying on something that aims for me. I do not mean to use it to abuse aim assist, just to get more raw-like input without acceleration.
I dont think its going to be much use, maybe at the very least allow for key binding but from one virtual DS3 to another, if it has better settings, maybe yeah most likely its going to as bad as the Eagle Eye converter witch i still got from back when Uprising hit and aiming went to total crap, ive tried it a couple of times to make it work but its even worse then the emulation made by ccp, it lags behind mouse moment, feels grainy for long distance shots, its slow, jitters randomly left & right when aiming up or down etc etc ...
I wouldnt put too much credit in that thing.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
817
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Posted - 2013.11.06 12:15:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Why has aim assist QQ resurfaced? They hadn't done anything to it! The fact hit detection is improved and everyone begins complaining about 1.4 aim assist (released at same time as HD ) begs to wonder!
Is it aim assisst or the power of weapons with working hit detection?
Maybe its the combination of all the fixes they did, that they most likely didnt have to do if they had fixed hit detection in the first place.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
1253
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Posted - 2013.11.06 12:16:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Seeing a red in a militia/basic suit who prior to 1.4/aim assist had no skill what so ever and now he's shooting through my proto suit like it's made of paper tissues. We aren't rewarding players for their skill any more, the system is doing it for them and that's sad to see, a lot of players have voiced there complaints with AA and I think the complaining has moved more over to hit detection now. I feel CCP is a bit in denial about AA, at EVE Vegas they were discussing Dust's past, present, and the future a Dev said that AA was a outstanding improvement to the old aiming system. Yes outstanding at pissing people off. CCP you need to treat Dust like a flower you have to be very delicate with it you can't keep jerking us around and I think that's what people liked most about Chromosome the fact that we didn't feel screwed and toyed with. This is the same way you treat EVE and the reason you haven't released a lot of updates for Dust like the market because you want to make sure it's eased in to EVE why aren't you showing the same care for Dust?
All I am saying is remove AA and TTK will go up and people will stop crying accept for the blues which I will laugh at, then we can enjoy a game that is based on skill not the system doing it for us. I hope the AA discussion doesn't die because it's a huge problem in game.
And remember heavys and scouts it doesn't matter if you have over 1k hit points or a 10 sprint speed AA is gonna track you and kill you in seconds. I built a logi with over 1k hp and got mowed down so quick high hit points don't matter anymore it's simply coming down to who places the first shots and is the most accurate with the AA system.
That would just allow grenade spammers to spam more efficiently though wouldnt it.
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Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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Acturus Galaxy
duna corp
154
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Posted - 2013.11.06 12:24:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Why has aim assist QQ resurfaced? They hadn't done anything to it! The fact hit detection is improved and everyone begins complaining about 1.4 aim assist (released at same time as HD ) begs to wonder!
Is it aim assisst or the power of weapons with working hit detection?
Because they can no longer jump in between a group of 4 reds, tap ADADADADADADA quickly and be invincible, killing the 4 reds without getting a dent in the shields. This is what they refer to as skills, abusing the bad hit detection we had earlier. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
920
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Posted - 2013.11.06 12:25:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Why has aim assist QQ resurfaced? They hadn't done anything to it! The fact hit detection is improved and everyone begins complaining about 1.4 aim assist (released at same time as HD ) begs to wonder!
Is it aim assisst or the power of weapons with working hit detection? Maybe its the combination of all the fixes they did, that they most likely didnt have to do if they had fixed hit detection in the first place.
As in extra AR yeah not needed now!
The pen is mightier than the sword
The gun is mightier than both
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
817
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Posted - 2013.11.06 12:56:00 -
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Acturus Galaxy wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Why has aim assist QQ resurfaced? They hadn't done anything to it! The fact hit detection is improved and everyone begins complaining about 1.4 aim assist (released at same time as HD ) begs to wonder!
Is it aim assisst or the power of weapons with working hit detection? Because they can no longer jump in between a group of 4 reds, tap ADADADADADADA quickly and be invincible, killing the 4 reds without getting a dent in the shields. This is what they refer to as skills, abusing the bad hit detection we had earlier.
Oh wow, did i really see someone from duna corp talk about abusing some mechanic ?
What we refer to as skill is being able to See target, respond, draw ADS, Aim -> Engage target between 0.5-0.7 seconds vs most peoples 1.2-2 second reaction delay, coupled with crippled motor control.
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"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Acturus Galaxy
duna corp
157
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Posted - 2013.11.06 13:22:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Acturus Galaxy wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Why has aim assist QQ resurfaced? They hadn't done anything to it! The fact hit detection is improved and everyone begins complaining about 1.4 aim assist (released at same time as HD ) begs to wonder!
Is it aim assisst or the power of weapons with working hit detection? Because they can no longer jump in between a group of 4 reds, tap ADADADADADADA quickly and be invincible, killing the 4 reds without getting a dent in the shields. This is what they refer to as skills, abusing the bad hit detection we had earlier. Oh wow, did i really see someone from duna corp talk about abusing some mechanic ? What we refer to as skill is being able to See target, respond, draw ADS, Aim -> Engage target between 0.5-0.7 seconds vs most peoples 1.2-2 second reaction delay, coupled with crippled motor control.
Yes, because I never mastered the keyboard and managed to take advantage of this and now I can finally retaliate against the AD dancers. I am not mad that keyboards could outdance me, I am mad I never managed to get comfortable using the keyboard. Stuck with DS3 and mouse at the time. Now I have the advantage with AA against the mouse keyboard users, you will not hear me complain about the AA |
knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
568
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Posted - 2013.11.06 13:31:00 -
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QQ QQ
let me shed a tear for your logi FROM MY SCOUT SUIT! HTFU! (the musical)
I don't now, nor have I ever had a problem with aim assist. improvements to hit detection are hurting me a lot but truth is my AR is as fast as theirs it's a matter of who sees who first. it's always been who sees who first, I'm a scout, I can't crutch on a 1000 ehp FOTM logi.
also observation from op if you need aim assist to hit a heavy, you're doing it wrong...
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
CLOSED BETA VET
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RydogV
Shadow Company HQ
582
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Posted - 2013.11.06 13:37:00 -
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*NEWS FLASH*
Your Proto suit is not THAT tough. It does not make you invincible. STOP USING IT IN PUBLIC MATCHES. No one is impressed. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
552
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Posted - 2013.11.06 13:46:00 -
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All I'm seeing is "WAH, A MILITIA SUIT KILLED MY PROTO SUIT, WAH!" also, complaining about aim assist on a console game? Don't even bother |
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
317
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Posted - 2013.11.06 13:49:00 -
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Rei: May I ask you how you configure your mouse to get it as good as possible?
CCP please make our decisions matter.
AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514.
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Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
946
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Posted - 2013.11.06 13:54:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Seeing a red in a militia/basic suit who prior to 1.4/aim assist had no skill what so ever and now he's shooting through my proto suit like it's made of paper tissues. We aren't rewarding players for their skill any more, the system is doing it for them and that's sad to see, a lot of players have voiced there complaints with AA and I think the complaining has moved more over to hit detection now. I feel CCP is a bit in denial about AA, at EVE Vegas they were discussing Dust's past, present, and the future a Dev said that AA was a outstanding improvement to the old aiming system. Yes outstanding at pissing people off. CCP you need to treat Dust like a flower you have to be very delicate with it you can't keep jerking us around and I think that's what people liked most about Chromosome the fact that we didn't feel screwed and toyed with. This is the same way you treat EVE and the reason you haven't released a lot of updates for Dust like the market because you want to make sure it's eased in to EVE why aren't you showing the same care for Dust?
All I am saying is remove AA and TTK will go up and people will stop crying accept for the blues which I will laugh at, then we can enjoy a game that is based on skill not the system doing it for us. I hope the AA discussion doesn't die because it's a huge problem in game.
And remember heavys and scouts it doesn't matter if you have over 1k hit points or a 10 sprint speed AA is gonna track you and kill you in seconds. I built a logi with over 1k hp and got mowed down so quick high hit points don't matter anymore it's simply coming down to who places the first shots and is the most accurate with the AA system. I can't say I agree. You are mad about aim assist making bad players into skilled players. You are not happy with challenging fights and you miss easy fights. I know you want to argue something elitist that bad players don't deserve a crutch and everyone needs to "get gud". What you are really saying is you hate working for your money and you wish each fight was more of a grind than a challenge and that you want a more definable degree of who the best is so that you can stand out as one of the few greats or greater players.
Not me though, I like a fair fight and a challenge. I see inferior players as handicapped and I can't any worse about killing people that don't stand a chance. It feels wrong, I need a challenge. My accomplishments feel better when I have to work for them, or they are not accomplishments to me.
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Shall be my brother
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Wallaby1
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
45
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Posted - 2013.11.06 14:00:00 -
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killed in you're proto suit ?.......... must be because the militia guy has no skill !! its not like you're playing like a tryhard and over-killing on the equipment in pub matches!! , srsly stop bitching about AA its pretty mutch non existent the game mechanics are clunky and bad enough every good shooter uses AA ,COD uses it BF3-4 use it , EREBODY USE AA , im sick of every gunfight in dust being a game of "neo vs smith" or "who can strafe the fastest" because cryhards like you cried so hard it got nerfed when they brought it in >:C |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
820
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Posted - 2013.11.06 14:03:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Rei: May I ask you how you configure your mouse to get it as good as possible?
My Razor Naga is set at (for left & right axis 1400 DPI) and (for Up and Down 1600 DPI) this fixes most of the oval i get when aiming with it set globally at 1400 DPI, i play at 40 Sensetivity ingame, you don't want instant twitchy movements, you want precise control and have a Razor Widow Mechanical Key keyboard.
My mousemat are 2 Razor Sphex Ultra thin pads with awsome tracking, mouse is enhanced with better skates all around.
I consider myself dead if someone gets the drop on me for better tracking accuracy.
though my Astro A50 headset 7.1 surround sound headset allows me to hear crisp footsteps behind me, fixing a part of the lower sense 1400-1600 dpi at 40 sensetivity.
But it really comes down to what you like best.
A good excersise is to go into a game, run trough a door, do a 90 degree turn towards a target, if you overshoot it, set sense to lower, if you fall short before the target increase sense.
Until you get to the point that every 90 degree turn lands you smack dab on target, then your mouse will be configered to your natural ability and not force you to play with a certain setting that works for someone else but feels off for yourself.
If you have a PC, go into an empty game and learn Drag Shots (look it up on youtube) get confy and practice everyday, eventually you will be able to aim with muscle memory alone instead of hand eye coordination.
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"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles
285
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Posted - 2013.11.06 14:06:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Why has aim assist QQ resurfaced? They hadn't done anything to it! The fact hit detection is improved and everyone begins complaining about 1.4 aim assist (released at same time as HD ) begs to wonder!
Is it aim assisst or the power of weapons with working hit detection?
If you had to someone aiming for them selfs then hit detection is fine.
If you die to a computer generated aiming system then hit detection is broken as ****. |
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
319
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Posted - 2013.11.06 14:09:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Rei: May I ask you how you configure your mouse to get it as good as possible? My Razor Naga is set at (for left & right axis 1400 DPI) and (for Up and Down 1600 DPI) this fixes most of the oval i get when aiming with it set globally at 1400 DPI, i play at 40 Sensetivity ingame, you don't want instant twitchy movements, you want precise control and have a Razor Widow Mechanical Key keyboard. My mousemat are 2 Razor Sphex Ultra thin pads with awsome tracking, mouse is enhanced with better skates all around. I consider myself dead if someone gets the drop on me for better tracking accuracy. though my Astro A50 headset 7.1 surround sound headset allows me to hear crisp footsteps behind me, fixing a part of the lower sense 1400-1600 dpi at 40 sensetivity. But it really comes down to what you like best. A good excersise is to go into a game, run trough a door, do a 90 degree turn towards a target, if you overshoot it, set sense to lower, if you fall short before the target increase sense. Until you get to the point that every 90 degree turn lands you smack dab on target, then your mouse will be configered to your natural ability and not force you to play with a certain setting that works for someone else but feels off for yourself. If you have a PC, go into an empty game and learn Drag Shots (look it up on youtube) get confy and practice everyday, eventually you will be able to aim with muscle memory alone instead of hand eye coordination.
Polling rate?
CCP please make our decisions matter.
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.06 14:11:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Seeing a red in a militia/basic suit who prior to 1.4/aim assist had no skill what so ever and now he's shooting through my proto suit like it's made of paper tissues. We aren't rewarding players for their skill any more, the system is doing it for them and that's sad to see, a lot of players have voiced there complaints with AA and I think the complaining has moved more over to hit detection now. I feel CCP is a bit in denial about AA, at EVE Vegas they were discussing Dust's past, present, and the future a Dev said that AA was a outstanding improvement to the old aiming system. Yes outstanding at pissing people off. CCP you need to treat Dust like a flower you have to be very delicate with it you can't keep jerking us around and I think that's what people liked most about Chromosome the fact that we didn't feel screwed and toyed with. This is the same way you treat EVE and the reason you haven't released a lot of updates for Dust like the market because you want to make sure it's eased in to EVE why aren't you showing the same care for Dust?
All I am saying is remove AA and TTK will go up and people will stop crying accept for the blues which I will laugh at, then we can enjoy a game that is based on skill not the system doing it for us. I hope the AA discussion doesn't die because it's a huge problem in game.
And remember heavys and scouts it doesn't matter if you have over 1k hit points or a 10 sprint speed AA is gonna track you and kill you in seconds. I built a logi with over 1k hp and got mowed down so quick high hit points don't matter anymore it's simply coming down to who places the first shots and is the most accurate with the AA system.
....I prefer it that I can actually die if I don't keep up with the game, even if the enemy has AA. I still don't die as often in my proto suits. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.11.06 14:11:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Rei: May I ask you how you configure your mouse to get it as good as possible? My Razor Naga is set at (for left & right axis 1400 DPI) and (for Up and Down 1600 DPI) this fixes most of the oval i get when aiming with it set globally at 1400 DPI, i play at 40 Sensetivity ingame, you don't want instant twitchy movements, you want precise control and have a Razor Widow Mechanical Key keyboard. My mousemat are 2 Razor Sphex Ultra thin pads with awsome tracking, mouse is enhanced with better skates all around. I consider myself dead if someone gets the drop on me for better tracking accuracy. though my Astro A50 headset 7.1 surround sound headset allows me to hear crisp footsteps behind me, fixing a part of the lower sense 1400-1600 dpi at 40 sensetivity. But it really comes down to what you like best. A good excersise is to go into a game, run trough a door, do a 90 degree turn towards a target, if you overshoot it, set sense to lower, if you fall short before the target increase sense. Until you get to the point that every 90 degree turn lands you smack dab on target, then your mouse will be configered to your natural ability and not force you to play with a certain setting that works for someone else but feels off for yourself. If you have a PC, go into an empty game and learn Drag Shots (look it up on youtube) get confy and practice everyday, eventually you will be able to aim with muscle memory alone instead of hand eye coordination. Polling rate?
I think my polling rate is at 250, idd have to check as i leave that at default.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
693
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Posted - 2013.11.06 14:13:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Seeing a red in a militia/basic suit who prior to 1.4/aim assist had no skill what so ever and now he's shooting through my proto suit like it's made of paper tissues. We aren't rewarding players for their skill any more, the system is doing it for them and that's sad to see, a lot of players have voiced there complaints with AA and I think the complaining has moved more over to hit detection now. I feel CCP is a bit in denial about AA, at EVE Vegas they were discussing Dust's past, present, and the future a Dev said that AA was a outstanding improvement to the old aiming system. Yes outstanding at pissing people off. CCP you need to treat Dust like a flower you have to be very delicate with it you can't keep jerking us around and I think that's what people liked most about Chromosome the fact that we didn't feel screwed and toyed with. This is the same way you treat EVE and the reason you haven't released a lot of updates for Dust like the market because you want to make sure it's eased in to EVE why aren't you showing the same care for Dust?
All I am saying is remove AA and TTK will go up and people will stop crying accept for the blues which I will laugh at, then we can enjoy a game that is based on skill not the system doing it for us. I hope the AA discussion doesn't die because it's a huge problem in game.
And remember heavys and scouts it doesn't matter if you have over 1k hit points or a 10 sprint speed AA is gonna track you and kill you in seconds. I built a logi with over 1k hp and got mowed down so quick high hit points don't matter anymore it's simply coming down to who places the first shots and is the most accurate with the AA system.
Did it or any game ever have to be about player skill with a stupid game controller? Where are the leet proto guys calling DUST a game about teamwork now?
If it's about teamwork and squad play then skill at aiming is not where the emphasis should be. Moreover, there should be more emphasis on character skills for shooting rather than player.
If the pen is mightier than the sword, in a duel I'll let you have the pen!
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chase rowland
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
62
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Posted - 2013.11.06 14:15:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:1k speed would be hilarious. If you run into someone with that, does it count as roadkill? lol +1 for you sir! i want to be the next speedy gonzales!!! |
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