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Jadek Menaheim
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.11.05 19:35:00 -
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My buddy Jadu Wen came up with amazing idea to turn a corporation into a gambling system. His corporation Xer Cloud Consortium is the first corp I've seen to use a 99% tax rate, The kicker is, all members are essentially given director status privileges to freely pull funds from the corporate wallet, attack districts, and accept any corporate application.
What I find intriguing about this is people can game the corporate wallet in any manner they see fit. Some members may only pull enough for their needs while others may completely empty out the bank and ditch the ship, while others may hedge their bets for a bigger payoff when the wallet grows massive.
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
69
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Posted - 2013.11.05 19:38:00 -
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I'm game, I play ALL BPOs anyway so I don't even need ISK, but the prospect of pulling a jackpot like this is all to enticing.
I can has ISK
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
1806
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Posted - 2013.11.05 19:39:00 -
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What kind of twisted social schemer is he? I am willing to bet, unless he regulates the corporation with some leadership (which nullifies the point of it being essentially a monetary free-for-all) then it might work, or else it's just barely controlled anarchy.
"..things that some people frankly don't even get the chance to do in real life, because it's poorly designed."
-Veigar
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
69
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Posted - 2013.11.05 19:39:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I'm game, I play ALL BPOs anyway so I don't even need ISK, but the prospect of pulling a jackpot like this is all to enticing. Welcome aboard, director.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
69
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Posted - 2013.11.05 19:41:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:What kind of twisted social schemer is he? I am willing to bet, unless he regulates the corporation with some leadership (which nullifies the point of it being essentially a monetary free-for-all) then it might work, or else it's just barely controlled anarchy. Well, I still remain the CEO. That's all the regulation this corporation will see at the present time.
Have fun!
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Jadek Menaheim
WarRavens League of Infamy
195
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Posted - 2013.11.05 19:46:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I'm game, I play ALL BPOs anyway so I don't even need ISK, but the prospect of pulling a jackpot like this is all to enticing.
BPO's is the way to go! Sorry CCP for messing up your system in unintended ways ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png)
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
69
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Posted - 2013.11.05 19:48:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I'm game, I play ALL BPOs anyway so I don't even need ISK, but the prospect of pulling a jackpot like this is all to enticing.
I like to think of this system as a stepping stone for newberries into the the world of corporate theft and griefing.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.05 21:19:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I'm game, I play ALL BPOs anyway so I don't even need ISK, but the prospect of pulling a jackpot like this is all to enticing. BPO's is the way to go! Sorry CCP for messing up your system in unintended ways ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) Jadek, it's not breaking the game, only expanding the potential of the sandbox.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.05 22:17:00 -
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I was considering the possibilities of this failing if people don't have BPOs. On the flip side CCP can take away starter suits for the risk of players being unable to make money. No money, no play, no Dust 514.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.06 04:02:00 -
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Here's an official link to the recruitment page.
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MySpaceTom
Xer Cloud Consortium
20
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Posted - 2013.11.06 04:03:00 -
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I'm just really curious if anything like this has ever been attempted before in Eve.
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1760
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Posted - 2013.11.06 04:04:00 -
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Unorganized chaos |
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
1241
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Posted - 2013.11.06 04:06:00 -
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So basically anyone can come and fk that corp wallet anytime they feel?
Bangarang rufio lol.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
1241
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Posted - 2013.11.06 04:07:00 -
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Jadu Wen wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I'm game, I play ALL BPOs anyway so I don't even need ISK, but the prospect of pulling a jackpot like this is all to enticing. I like to think of this system as a stepping stone for newberries into the the world of corporate theft and griefing.
It all makes sense now.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
1242
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Posted - 2013.11.06 04:10:00 -
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I'm going to make an alt and empty the wallet every 5 mins, would I win? Lol
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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Thurak1
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
363
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Posted - 2013.11.06 04:24:00 -
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Jadu Wen wrote:I was considering the possibilities of this failing if people don't have BPOs. On the flip side CCP can take away starter suits for the risk of players being unable to make money. No money, no play, no Dust 514. Could always make an alt and get the start up capitol if CCP ever does that. |
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
72
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Posted - 2013.11.06 04:52:00 -
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Just to put things into perspective, if you can get 20 mercs to play 10 games of ambush in an hour with each match yielding 150k, the cumulative wallet jackpot at the end of the hour would be 30 million isk. That again is 20 players playing with BPOs for an hour.
A full trans-stellar empire (1300 people) running 10 games of ambush in an hour would net 1.95 Billion isk. Talk about making things interesting.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.06 04:58:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Unorganized chaos Only the best kind of Chaos! ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png)
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Jadek Menaheim
WarRavens League of Infamy
196
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Posted - 2013.11.06 05:10:00 -
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Jadu Wen wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Unorganized chaos Only the best kind of Chaos! ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) Have you been robbed yet?
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.06 05:16:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Jadu Wen wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Unorganized chaos Only the best kind of Chaos! ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) Have you been robbed yet? Nope, people just using the system to buy skill books then play a few ambush matches to isk back into the til. The wallet is growing. Working tremendously well for new players and people using fresh alts.
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Jadek Menaheim
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.11.06 05:17:00 -
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That's not what I expected. I'm impressed.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.06 05:21:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:I'm going to make an alt and empty the wallet every 5 mins, would I win? Lol You might be a winner, but can you watch transaction screens 23 hours a day 7 days a week? Someone is always going to fill your spot in the viewing queue.
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MySpaceTom
Xer Cloud Consortium
20
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Posted - 2013.11.06 05:33:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:That's not what I expected. I'm impressed. I wonder if we're seeing a funny psychological phenomenon where if you give people the tools and permission to Awox a corp it takes the underhanded fun out of doing so and almost makes them feel guilty because there is so little challenge and deceit involved.
Oh the lolz!
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Jadek Menaheim
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.11.06 16:25:00 -
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If I would recommend any type of membership requirement it would be that players must actively play matches. Yes, wallet watchers are fine, but if you don't play and contribute to the wallet your are out. You need a fast isk increase rate to make the threat of isk dumps much more frequent and hectic.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.06 16:26:00 -
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That sits well with me Jadek.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
450
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Posted - 2013.11.06 16:31:00 -
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mind if my alt joins? this is an excellent idea. even if someone steals the wallet, then it grows at such an alarming rate, it will be back in no time
How exactly does a Biscuit gain Valor?
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
311
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Posted - 2013.11.06 16:32:00 -
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Rather than director why not just do accountant?
PHI Recruitment
or PHIsh Tank in game
Twitch
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Delta90212
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
54
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Posted - 2013.11.06 16:32:00 -
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Jadu Wen wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I'm game, I play ALL BPOs anyway so I don't even need ISK, but the prospect of pulling a jackpot like this is all to enticing. Welcome aboard, director. What stops you from taking all that isk and leave the corp?
CCP, I want my rainbow lasers now.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.06 16:43:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:Rather than director why not just do accountant? I may bump it down from Director to all Sub-Director Roles. The reason I want this is to allow people the 'opportunity' to place attack orders in Planetary conquest both for legitimate battles or simply locking down a friendly district.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.06 16:48:00 -
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Delta90212 wrote:Jadu Wen wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I'm game, I play ALL BPOs anyway so I don't even need ISK, but the prospect of pulling a jackpot like this is all to enticing. Welcome aboard, director. What stops you from taking all that isk and leave the corp? Nothing. But on the same token, what stops you from taking all that isk and leaving the corp. As before nothing, except a transaction signature that this particular merc took the ISK. The point is the system is designed to be freely chaotic and open for fast wallet replenishment. Remember this corporation is designed in part as a gambling system. Your participation comes with risk, but if your timing of the transaction window is good you can cover your needs and much more if you so choose.
Plus, if I were to leave the corp I would likely need to disband it, and that's not something I'm looking to do.
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