DUST Search - The Best Corporate Jackpot System I've Ever Seen

Borne Velvalor wrote:

Jadek Menaheim wrote:

We're at 100% tax now. A random director in our corp has come up with the straight forward description for us,

Earn Money. Take Money.

I guess someone else changed the description to that, because it wasn't set to that by the member who originally did the deed 5 minutes before downtime yesterday. Is the symbol still the new red star badge?

Rowdy Railgunner wrote:

Jadek Menaheim wrote:

snip

Jadu Wen wrote:

Just to put things into perspective, if you can get 20 mercs to play 10 games of ambush in an hour with each match yielding 150k, the cumulative wallet jackpot at the end of the hour would be 30 million isk. That again is 20 players playing with BPOs for an hour.

A full trans-stellar empire (1300 people) running 10 games of ambush in an hour would net 1.95 Billion isk. Talk about making things interesting.

7,950,000,000 ISK/hr would be the number if you got 5300 people playing at that rate.

The only problem with this is that barely half that many players are playing at one time across every corporation's members, including NPC. I'm sure CCP would be very, very happy if you could double the players playing in your corporation alone.

Also, unless the player is running free fittings, they need to pull ISK out for their equipment anyway. Just the legitimate users would suck up a lot of the cash for suits, or get stuck without decent gear because someone grabbed all the winnings.

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Jadek Menaheim WarRavens League of Infamy 195	Posted - 2013.11.05 19:35:00 - [1] - Quote My buddy Jadu Wen came up with amazing idea to turn a corporation into a gambling system. His corporation Xer Cloud Consortium is the first corp I've seen to use a 99% tax rate, The kicker is, all members are essentially given director status privileges to freely pull funds from the corporate wallet, attack districts, and accept any corporate application. What I find intriguing about this is people can game the corporate wallet in any manner they see fit. Some members may only pull enough for their needs while others may completely empty out the bank and ditch the ship, while others may hedge their bets for a bigger payoff when the wallet grows massive. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim WarRavens League of Infamy 195	Posted - 2013.11.05 19:46:00 - [2] - Quote Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote: I'm game, I play ALL BPOs anyway so I don't even need ISK, but the prospect of pulling a jackpot like this is all to enticing. BPO's is the way to go! Sorry CCP for messing up your system in unintended ways [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim WarRavens League of Infamy 196	Posted - 2013.11.06 05:10:00 - [3] - Quote Jadu Wen wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Unorganized chaos Only the best kind of Chaos! Have you been robbed yet? [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim WarRavens League of Infamy 196	Posted - 2013.11.06 05:17:00 - [4] - Quote That's not what I expected. I'm impressed. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim WarRavens League of Infamy 201	Posted - 2013.11.06 16:25:00 - [5] - Quote If I would recommend any type of membership requirement it would be that players must actively play matches. Yes, wallet watchers are fine, but if you don't play and contribute to the wallet your are out. You need a fast isk increase rate to make the threat of isk dumps much more frequent and hectic. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim WarRavens League of Infamy 201	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:16:00 - [6] - Quote Jadu Wen wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: mind if my alt joins? this is an excellent idea. even if someone steals the wallet, then it grows at such an alarming rate, it will be back in no time Yes, your alt is open to join. However, please recognize that due to current and continual space limitation active players will have priority. Your alt may be let go if it is not see participating within battles by the general Consortium. How would you go about encouraging group policing of this system. Would it be some sort of group messaging reply system where people X up every week. I'm glad there is a mark all as read mail feature coming within the next build. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim WarRavens League of Infamy 203	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:21:00 - [7] - Quote Jadu Wen wrote: Ideally, I would love it if Team True Grit developed a system that shows how much isk a player has returned in taxes for a given day, week, or month in the wallet window. That's going up as request right now. I would encapsulate it as a player contribution statistic that shows the combined total of any donations and tax collection. There would also be a player withdrawn stat, and net value stat of the contribution and withdraw figures. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim WarRavens League of Infamy 203	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:42:00 - [8] - Quote Exploitation is the purpose of the system. After it goes on so long, people may become lax in watching and constantly fighting over the transaction window in order to let it build a little bit. This is all conjecture. The experiment might play out in any number of ways. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 205	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:04:00 - [9] - Quote Jadu Wen wrote: I am please to announce that Jadek Menaheim is taking over as the CEO of Xer Cloud Consortium. He is better equiped to handle sinking SP into the corp management skill for the growth of the Corp. He is a game verteran with a respectable 17 million sp in all Logi related activities. I put my trust in him. Good luck with this ship sir. I log on today and it made me smile that someone cleaned out the wallet . Somebody named Clone Id-2......I've got to give the system props for how quickly the wallet is replenishing. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 205	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:14:00 - [10] - Quote Jadu Wen wrote: Jadek I know you resonated some concerns about people abusing their director privledges to change things like the tax rate to 100% or alter the corp image and description. I strongly advise you to permit that kind of tomfoolery (unless it breaches CCP's EULA). It's necessesary to maintain the open access initiative of XERCC. Also it gives newberries a chance to play around with those design controls. Regardless, the corp name and corp ticker are locked in and cannot be changed by members. Will do [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]

Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 209	Posted - 2013.11.07 07:16:00 - [11] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: I'll play, on my main too. Please define 'active' as I'm normally only on for an hour or 2 every couple of days at most. The definition of active is going to vary depending on the demand for application openings and the average activity rate of corporation members (which currently can't be accurately measured without assistance from CCP.) For the time being your play schedule should be fine Dustwaffle. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 209	Posted - 2013.11.07 07:20:00 - [12] - Quote Chit Hoppened wrote: Application sent. I want to be a part of this social experiment. EDIT: So I log out after getting accepted. Log back in and I get a fatal error message saying "Restart your **** and do it again". I can see this going really well. The system already loves you. Try and get your feet wet next time you log in. Take some isk from the til, albeit it won't reflect what you just saw. I zeroed the corp wallet to my own stash just a few moments ago. I will be on again tomorrow to play more matches and boost up the wallet again. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 209	Posted - 2013.11.07 07:23:00 - [13] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: I think I found my new home That's a clever sig. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 210	Posted - 2013.11.07 13:16:00 - [14] - Quote WASTED MERC wrote: I'm joining so I can use an few assault dropships in every game I play and not worry about how much it costs A no guilt spending spree....we welcome you aboard. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 210	Posted - 2013.11.07 16:03:00 - [15] - Quote WASTED MERC wrote: how do i get money out of this corp, i need it for skill books When funds are available in the corp wallet the easiest way to transfer funds to yourself is to open neocon > corporation > my corporation > members > select yourself on the list > give money > select corp wallet with L2 or R2 if not already auto selected > select withdraw amount > transfer. You may run into a script error that displays the incorrect balance of the corp wallet. You can usually check the accurate status of the corp wallet by opening the wallet from the corp tab and viewing the transaction history. Making a minor donation and subsequent withdraw (I like to do 2 isk) can update the corp wallet to better reflect current amounts. Otherwise if this does not work, the next best solution is to quit and log back into the game. The biggest problem you may run into is if the corp wallet is cleared out to 0 isk and you fight several battle matches during that play session, the tax you incur from the battle is unable to be withdrawn because your system reads 0 isk in the corp wallet (the indicator in the upper right hand of the screen). However, the itemized transaction history will reflect correct changes (most of the time.) In order to fix this, complete the process as described in the second paragraph of donating and withdrawing, then withdrawing again the correct funds. I understand that is a hassle, however, we are finding that is currently how the game's protocols work. We need a CPM's help to prod CCP on this issue. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 210	Posted - 2013.11.07 16:42:00 - [16] - Quote Alright, posted a support request in the Tech feedback section on this point. Hopefully it gets the ball rolling. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 219	Posted - 2013.11.07 21:06:00 - [17] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: my time in EvE tells me thers something REALLY fishy aboutthis. i cant wait to see what happens And the obvious response a CEO can give is...you have nothing to be concerned about. Then I proceed to flash my credentials and reason for trustworthiness. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 219	Posted - 2013.11.07 21:09:00 - [18] - Quote I don't have any... ... ... ... Naturally. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 221	Posted - 2013.11.07 21:19:00 - [19] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: I'm sending my alt to this corp, I'll play 100% starter fits (well I may toss a GEK or something on them just to make things fun) I'll post his/her name when I create this alt I speak of Sounds good. The real 'fun' is in the satisfaction of stomping a protosuit with your starter suit and superior tactics. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 222	Posted - 2013.11.07 21:24:00 - [20] - Quote Nicely executed. It's a great recipe for beautiful hate mail. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]

Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 223	Posted - 2013.11.08 00:00:00 - [21] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Jadu Wen wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: mind if my alt joins? this is an excellent idea. even if someone steals the wallet, then it grows at such an alarming rate, it will be back in no time Yes, your alt is open to join. However, please recognize that due to current and continual space limitation active players will have priority. Your alt may be let go if it is not see participating within battles by the general Consortium. If you want I can boost your corp so that it can hold thousands of members. http://eveboard.com/pilot/Corporate_Management If you notice that character is mine and he has Sovereignty 4. Roster constraints will be a thing of the past. I appreciate this, but excuse me if I feel a little hesitant after finally reading Nullabor's tag on share takeovers of Dust Corps. But at the same time this is an experiment so I am very open to the offer. If you do have maxed corp skills we should be able to handle about 6200 people if I'm not mistaken. We'll be in contact. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 223	Posted - 2013.11.08 00:57:00 - [22] - Quote Dust Junky 4Life wrote: I just thought of something really fun. We could play Russian roulette. We could randomly donate out entire wallets and take it right back out. BAAAAAAM its gone. lol Hot Damn sir, you are a genius. If you wanted to make it even more dangerous, you synchronize people to snap for the donation button. Then the frenzy begins in the race to the withdraw window. I love it! [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 223	Posted - 2013.11.08 01:49:00 - [23] - Quote itsmellslikefish wrote: DovaFish isOPneedsNer wrote: Can I join? Dovafish is my alt and I applied! How long till o can gamble? Now! [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 223	Posted - 2013.11.08 01:51:00 - [24] - Quote Vinsarrow wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: My buddy Jadu Wen came up with amazing idea to turn a corporation into a gambling system. His corporation Xer Cloud Consortium is the first corp I've seen to use a 95% tax rate, The kicker is, all members are essentially given director status privileges to freely pull funds from the corporate wallet, attack districts, and accept any corporate application. What I find intriguing about this is people can game the corporate wallet in any manner they see fit. Some members may only pull enough for their needs while others may completely empty out the bank and ditch the ship, while others may hedge their bets for a bigger payoff when the wallet grows massive. Edit / / / / Well....holy **. You really are insane. It's a good thing there is a tripple sp weekend coming up. Jadu Wen wrote:** Just to put things into perspective, if you can get 20 mercs to play 10 games of ambush in an hour with each match yielding 150k, the cumulative wallet jackpot at the end of the hour would be 30 million isk. That again is 20 players playing with BPOs for an hour. A full trans-stellar empire (1300 people) running 10 games of ambush in an hour would net 1.95 Billion isk. Talk about making things interesting. Oh? joins your corporation & steals all the ISK - You pretty are sad XD it's going to happen On the contrary, I'll be happy you made that haul, but I'll still kick myself for not getting in first. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 223	Posted - 2013.11.08 02:43:00 - [25] - Quote Void Echo wrote: your directors are attacking planet fight club, that's a non pc planet, things wont go well for you when the ones in charge of it find out. We don't have any of our own districts to steal or any elusive corp wallet for you to nab. It's all out in the open. Enjoy the calm before the storm my good sir. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 224	Posted - 2013.11.08 03:08:00 - [26] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Void Echo wrote: your directors are attacking planet fight club, that's a non pc planet, things wont go well for you when the ones in charge of it find out. Hey, fights are fights. What's the difference? Like I said in corp chat though, it's all just fun. Mark this...it's the beginning of a new chapter in New Eden history. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 225	Posted - 2013.11.08 04:26:00 - [27] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: This sounds tailor made just for me. I've got all this cash and nothing to spend it on. Why not just dump it into a spot where I may never see it again? The nothingness is beautiful! Or I could just keep it and put ISK into the wallet with that smexy tax. Not big on organization, so I don't know if there is any potential way that this whole thing could just collapse and be unrecoverable in any way possible, but that's just part of the fun! We'll find out. Welcome aboard. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 227	Posted - 2013.11.08 05:18:00 - [28] - Quote Pipping hot news: Xer Cloud Consortium begins an attack on Outer Heaven at Sakulda District 5 in 23 Hours 49 Minutes. That's midnight eastern standard time in the US. Come out and watch the fireworks. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 227	Posted - 2013.11.08 05:20:00 - [29] - Quote Applications will be opening up about an hour before that time. We are adding on 5300 new openings. The job market is looking mighty fine in the days ahead. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 231	Posted - 2013.11.08 05:51:00 - [30] - Quote Now let's run and win some of those PC matches so we can flux around with clone production. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]

Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 231	Posted - 2013.11.08 05:56:00 - [31] - Quote fawkuima juggalo wrote: THIS CONCEPT CAN TOTALLY WORK it really is how the world should be..... if everybodys honest works twords the same goal and only takes what they need then it will totally work and is more then worth it to try. i wanna see the results of such actions.... btw WHATS THE NAME OF THE CORP? Well, this world is filled with honest scumbags. The corp is called the Xer Cloud Consortium. Search XERCC. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 233	Posted - 2013.11.08 07:10:00 - [32] - Quote SL1M P1KK1NS wrote: I want in on this Gamble I sent in an invite. Your acceptance will be opened up and processed in under 24 hours. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 235	Posted - 2013.11.08 21:10:00 - [33] - Quote Well, it's official. We have boosted capacity to 5300 merc slots and applications are pouring in. Welcome to a new age ladies and gentlemen. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 243	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:17:00 - [34] - Quote We're at 100% tax now. A random director in our corp has come up with the straight forward description for us, Earn Money. Take Money. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 247	Posted - 2013.11.10 02:01:00 - [35] - Quote Borne Velvalor wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: We're at 100% tax now. A random director in our corp has come up with the straight forward description for us, Earn Money. Take Money. I guess someone else changed the description to that, because it wasn't set to that by the member who originally did the deed 5 minutes before downtime yesterday. Is the symbol still the new red star badge? Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: snip Jadu Wen wrote: Just to put things into perspective, if you can get 20 mercs to play 10 games of ambush in an hour with each match yielding 150k, the cumulative wallet jackpot at the end of the hour would be 30 million isk. That again is 20 players playing with BPOs for an hour. A full trans-stellar empire (1300 people) running 10 games of ambush in an hour would net 1.95 Billion isk. Talk about making things interesting. 7,950,000,000 ISK/hr would be the number if you got 5300 people playing at that rate. The only problem with this is that barely half that many players are playing at one time across every corporation's members, including NPC. I'm sure CCP would be very, very happy if you could double the players playing in your corporation alone. Also, unless the player is running free fittings, they need to pull ISK out for their equipment anyway. Just the legitimate users would suck up a lot of the cash for suits, or get stuck without decent gear because someone grabbed all the winnings. Description and Logo: As per the experiment, all members have the permission to rework our image in any way they choose, without violating CCP's EULA of course. One user suggested changing the logo to reflect an odd warping of the next PC corp we'd be facing. Player Counts: Yes you are absolutely correct on this point. Yet, XERCC does seek to help immerse new players into the 'differentness' that Dust offers over other FPS genre titles. By the nature of all members having director controls, new player have an ability to try out new systems, game operations, and even access to skill books far more quickly than would normally be possible. We hope that this expedience and immersion within collective choices would assist player retention. Sucking up cash: Well the beauty of this ponzi communism beast is that it has encouraged behavioral changes in players to donate to each other out of some type of trollish kindness. Running starter and MLT variants is quite feasible and it encourages new tactical choices to operate in lieu of pressing challenges from suit/equipment disparity. Skilled players can skill make a punishing impact upon a match with remote explosives and scrambler pistols for example. Many hIgh SP players can make the most for their money with high proficiency skills in various types of weaponry. In the chance that you do grab the isk pot during an opportune moment you can run any type of suit you like for a good while. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 247	Posted - 2013.11.10 02:26:00 - [36] - Quote Borne Velvalor wrote: Yes, it is good fun. It's always funny to see the pot climb to a million ISK only to have it taken half a minute later. It was just at 300,000,000 ISK several minutes ago. Just saying, keep an eye on it. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 258	Posted - 2013.11.10 06:43:00 - [37] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: It's not a scam, I snagged 970k this morning, another 300 k in the afternoon and 100k about 20 minutes ago On top of his shenanigans with dropping the 300 mil into corp wallet, Djinn Asskicker made 12 million in isk taxes and blitz gambling with the group today. Not too shabby there sir. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]