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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2013.11.04 04:10:00 -
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Give it a 20% health gain and a 20% damage bonus. OP much? But hey, at least less logis will use them as an assault.
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Posted - 2013.11.04 04:31:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Since I am amarrian, and I use only amarrian weapons (unless no alternative (HMG))...
I find that the assault suit is my suit of choice for slaying operations. Due to the bonus (reduced weapon heat build-up) the logistics just does not perform on the same level. I think this is something that CCP should look at more. Of course if I use non-amarrian weapons I can run the amarrian logi at full effectiveness.
Make the weapons themselves less effective unless on unbonused suits, just like EvE. This means that of course means that there would be a damage nerf across the board for most weapons, but in turn it should allow certain suits to bring those weapons back up to snuff;
I think everyone can agree the TTK is a bit low as it is and that is the reason why I don't suggest damage buffing current weapons.
Hell I would be down with CCP increasing the heat build-up of amarrian weapons and the assault bonus to them as well.
EDIT: Holy cow... I just realized this would be an ideal way to deploy minmatar heavies. Give them a 5% per level sharpshooter type bonus to the HMG... bam, HMG fixed and most useful on minnie heavies. ( or 10%, whatever it takes for the HMG to be devastating again) I have no problem with Amarr Logistics. After all, statistically they are the weakest logistics (In theory), but I use them effectively, and find they are the master of defense. With a scrambler rifle, an SMG, and allotek flux grenades, it is the most devastating suit on the battlefield. It even can supply and heal an entire squad, which can change the outcome of a game if done right.
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2013.11.04 04:35:00 -
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Melchiah ARANeAE wrote:Medium suits need a nerf to help balance heavies and scouts. Yes, and logis will remain king, HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted - 2013.11.04 04:43:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:I've got a logi and assault suit and let me tell you, if the assault gets a bonus to damage even if its only2% per level, it will be OP as f***. I already r@pe hard with proficiency 5 w/ complex damage mods, but another 10% would just seal the deal on OP. Yes. And what will you do about it!!! I would stomp people faces and turn this game into battlefield 514 MUAHAHAHAHA There's nothing you can do about it. It is inevitable.
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2013.11.04 04:45:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Thats the point though... you can still use the logi effectively, but an amarrian assault will be able to use that scrambler in a more sustained fashion than you can, and the laser/CRD is just painful to use with the logi.
Assaults are better at assaulting, and logistics are less effective, but can do almost the same and bare equipment. Working as intended.
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Posted - 2013.11.04 04:54:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Because the assault suits have a higher base HP, the fact logi's have more slots is irelevent assaults end up with more or the same. Anyone crying about logi's being better assaults then assaults are just assaults that are bad. Not my fault you can't kill me while I'm camping on my own rep hives I can't take on an entire squad without my SMG.
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Posted - 2013.11.04 05:14:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Thats the point though... you can still use the logi effectively, but an amarrian assault will be able to use that scrambler in a more sustained fashion than you can, and the laser/CRD is just painful to use with the logi.
Assaults are better at assaulting, and logistics are less effective, but can do almost the same and bare equipment. Working as intended. Did you even read what I wrote before?? I said that the way amarrian weapons work, paired with thier assualt bonus should be somewhat of a model for the rest of the racial weapons. I also said that I would support CCP increasing the heat build-up of amarrian weapons to ensure that difference is pronounced. As it is right now, you fit a duovolle on that amarrian logi and you are just as combat effective as 99% of assaults. LOL As long as it's not as effective as my speed tanked Caldari Assault, I'm good with that. Takes one core grenade to kill it.
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Posted - 2013.11.05 02:13:00 -
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I don't know if anyone realized but 20% is way too high. This was obviously a troll, so I'm surprised by all the serious answers...
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Posted - 2013.11.05 02:19:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:I don't know if anyone realized but 20% is way too high. This was obviously a troll, so I'm surprised by all the serious answers... Assaults do need a buff though. Maybe not even a buff, just something to make the suit more attractive on paper. Just got prof 5 on my SMG for my Minmatar assault and starting to love it more than my logi. Amarr don't seem to have issues with their asault/logi dynamic, Caldari's suits seem different enough, but Gallente assault is a bit underpowered due to the lack of hybrid sidearms and grenades. (assuming grenades work with the bonus) I know. Even 10% would be a push... like back in the good old days, but only for assaults.
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Posted - 2013.11.05 02:21:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:They need to remove the blanket 10% damage bonus they gave back in Uprising 1.0 then change the Assault bonus to 2% weapon damage per level. This exactly.
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Posted - 2013.11.05 02:27:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:They need to remove the blanket 10% damage bonus they gave back in Uprising 1.0 then change the Assault bonus to 2% weapon damage per level. This exactly. Overall TTK needs to be adjusted a bit to compensate for all the hit detection fixes, but I'll second this. Yeah yeah...
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