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Ecshon Autorez
Villore Sec Ops
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Posted - 2014.01.30 02:34:00 -
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Ooooh! I thought of EVE explorers working with Dusties, but my thoughts didn't involve scanning wrecks. My idea was about them scanning down planets for ruins! (although I never posted it because right now, to my understanding, most EVE players don't care about/hate Dust)
As for the clone torpedo, CCP has already dealt with that.  'Immortal Clone' trailer
And about getting into it without EVE/squad support.
Well there's not much you can do about squads besides squad finder, although as for EVE support I suppose it could be made to allow Dust mercs to buy a special ship in EVE that they order to a location to scan down the region. (reusable unless destroyed)
They wouldn't be in direct control, instead they would simply buy it, tell it what system they want it to go to, it travels there (capsuleers and NPC pirates might gank mid-route), once there it either automatically scans down the region looking for wrecks, or the Dust merc that owns it could have the scanning interface pop up and manually scan. (I don't know about this since I find scanning super easy to understand whilst other people I know can't figure out what's what)
Higher tier ships would have more HP, faster engines, more powerful probes, and weaponry to automatically fight back against gankers and rats. (or alternatively, Dus mercs could actually customize and fit the ships using special modules exclusive to the Dust controlled ships and higher tiered versions give more HP, PG/CPU, module slots, turret/launcher hardpoints, cargo space, etc) (although the Dust ships probably wouldn't be a match for a capsuleer ganker, unless they try it in a rookie ship with civilian weapons  )
From what I've heard when a corp sends clones from planet A to planet B the clones are flown there by an NPC hauler or something. So having Dusties order around NPCs isn't a problem (if it's true, I might just be mistaken)
This could get REALLY interesting depending on the amount of freedom the pilots in EVE Valkyrie get.
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Ecshon Autorez
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Posted - 2014.01.30 03:31:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Thanks for the reply. Just a point of clarification, EVE ships can already scan down sites. They already do it all of the time. This would simply be another type of site in addition to the ones that already exist. You can do a google search for "EVE exploration" and see how it works.
Lol I know they can scan down sites, I play EVE and my main focus is on exploration.
The Dust merc controlled ship idea is so Dust mercs can still do this without EVE support.
What I meant when I said that the dust mercs could scan it manually I meant that they could have they could have the scanning window from EVE appear, but I don't know how well that would work since I know people who have no clue how to scan, even when I give them step by step instructions through skype.
Or alternatively the ship could automatically scan sites down when it enters the region, but take a bit of time doing it. (not long though) (and possibly dock in a station while scanning (o boy, imagine if capsuleers could do that))
So the Dust merc would be able to:- Buy a special Dust merc exclusive ship in EVE
- Order the ship to use a station as its home base
- Fit the ship using Dust ship exclusive modules and weapons (otherwise the merc would probably need to skill into the EVE skill tree... yikes. This way it can be from a Dust skill tree)
- Order the ship to a solar system through the starmap (able to decide which systems to avoid, etc, just like in autopilot)
- Have it scan down the solar system for anomalies (and only the anomalies that Dust mercs can do, don't want this getting *abused by EVE pilots for mass automated anomaly hunting)
The Dust merc would not be able to:
- Go mining
- Do missions
- just fly around
- Any other kind of anomaly
- Cargo hauling (well... I suppose they'd need to if they want to sell their loot at another station)
- See their ship and personally control it like an EVE capsuleer can (limited to go to that station, go to that anomaly, go to that system, etc) (view is from starmap/solar system map)
- Pretty much everything that isn't explicitly labeled "Yes, you can do this."
*By abused by EVE pilots I mean this: EVE pilot corp sets up a bunch of alts in Dust, they send out Dust ships to scan down every system within 15 jumps, EVE pilots look through scan results for any D/R sites, Ghost sites, or whatever else it is that they're looking for. They have just found all the systems that are actually worth their time without having to even leave station. Potential Ganks avoided, time saved.
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Ecshon Autorez
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Posted - 2014.02.02 05:59:00 -
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I'm not sure how hard it would be to implement when compared to other things that have already been done/will be done/have been asked about.
We already know mercs can access the starmap just fine. (we used to have it in MQ and in the War Barge, but it got removed)
The mercs wouldn't be actually viewing the ship, they'd be restricted to using the starmap and solar system map to order it from place to place. (try ordering you ship to go somewhere and switch to your solar system map, that's all they'd be able to see)
Since they wouldn't be in direct control of their ship it wouldn't need fast connection, a bit of lag would be fine. They wouldn't be able to order the ship to attack specific targets, orbit at specific distances, activate modules, etc. All that would be the ship AI (essentially the same as NPC pirates and the like)
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