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Logi Bro
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Posted - 2013.11.04 02:39:00 -
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Let's be honest here, the logistics suit needs SOME kind of nerf. I am not specifying ANYTHING before anyone flies off the handle on me, but I am interested to see what other people think the best choice of nerf would be.
I've already heard the following:
-Only a sidearm weapon.
-Reduced WPs for kills and greater WPs for support
-Must fill all equipment slots to be a valid fitting.
-50% reduced damage like the Logistics LAVs
-Change the current +1 armor repair per level to the current Gallente -5% equipment CPU/PG usage per level
I'm not saying you have to choose from my list, I'm just saying that I've already heard these ideas, and if you suggest them, please provide a reasonable argument.
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Logi Bro
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Posted - 2013.11.05 01:40:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Neither, I'm tired of seeing this game nerfed to the standards of assaults with rifles. Take your stand fellow logibros! Don't give these casual bastards an inch!
You say neither as if I gave you a choice between two things. I said come up with something you would want to happen if it absolutely had to happen. The logi suit is undoubtedly the most powerful suit in the game at the moment, I have enough experience to testify to it. If you truly think that the logi suit is perfectly balanced at the moment, I severely overestimated your intelligence.
SOMETHING needs to be changed, and as I clearly stated, I don't necessarily believe in any of the ones I listed, just the fact that something needs to change.
BTW, I only just now looked at this thread since I posted it, so to anyone reading this, I am not going to go through every single response and answer them one by one, just going to look at the first page or so.
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Logi Bro
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Posted - 2013.11.05 01:52:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Should the logis be nerfed yet? As you said, they are too good at the moment, but I don't think you should start figuring out what nerf logis need until two things happen:
* Increasing the Time-To-Kill because a low TTK makes balancing things a serious pain and reduces the fun of the game
* Buff assaults. Currently the Assault class kills things just as fast as any other suit. That feels wrong to me. They should have an increased ability to attack (with some setbacks in other areas compared to other mediums like their total eHP) to define themselves as Assaults.
After those two things happen and the dust settles, then I feel it will be time to see what modifications you logis need.
Problem is, I've already advocated to buff other classes. I had a thread that I took a significant amount of time thinking about the best bonuses to befit the classes, and it never got a dev response. I would have even been ok with a, "yeah, we have our own ideas already," from a dev, but all I got was silence.
SInce it is obvious CCP is unwilling to buff, I have now resorted to asking what the most popular nerf would be, though since the, "lets keep logi's at their super-sayain 9001," argument is the most common argument that I have seen so far, there is a clear rift between CCP's and the community's approaches towards balance, without a possibility of compromise.
Once the dust settles, as you say, a large portion of the playerbase will either have ragequit because they disagree with how CCP handled balance, or CCP will cave in and balance things in favor of the community's opinion, which in all fairness, is mostly uneducated in the balance of games.
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Logi Bro
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Posted - 2013.11.05 02:16:00 -
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I'm not going to bother quoting your wall of text, seeing as how it takes up 50% of a page.
I'm not going to lie, I completely forgot everything you were arguing or any good points you might have made when I read this part:
Cosgar wrote:Stop trying to drag down other game mechanics because you feel yours is lacking.
lolwut? I am correct in assuming that this was directed towards me? How am I dragging down other game mechanics because I feel that my mechanics are lacking? I did not at any point mention heavies, assaults, or scouts. I only mentioned logistics, which I believe you can guess from my name, are 99% of what I do. So they are not OTHER mechanics, they are MY mechanics.
By definition, I am requesting that my mechanics be nerfed because mine are severely over the mark. They are too powerful. The opposite of lacking. I regularly have the highest KD/R on my team whilst also having the highest WPs. That lack of a sidearm ain't doin' **** to my lethal capabilities.
Let me put it this way, have you read my signature? I didn't just put it there because I couldn't think of anything witty or funny to put in its place, I put that phrase as my signature because when I started this game, I was lucky to see a single other logistics player in the game. But now, at least 50% of every game I play is infested with logistics players.
Do you think the massive influx of logi's was brought on by a sudden bout of kindness? Yes, it is partly because of improved mechanics, like actually being able to revive people with nanite injectors, but it was mostly brought on by the power that the logi now possesses.
Been Logistics since before it was cool.
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