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MPX Shad Multiplex Gaming Li3 Federation 0	Posted - 2013.11.03 18:32:00 - [1] - Quote After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong.
Scheherazade VII Expert Intervention Caldari State 37	Posted - 2013.11.03 18:37:00 - [2] - Quote MPX Shad wrote: After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong. really??? well i'll be damned. GêÜGëêDUST VIDEOSGëêGêÜ
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 490	Posted - 2013.11.03 18:48:00 - [3] - Quote MPX Shad wrote: After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong. LOL! BF4 is meant for the next gen consoles and pc. the ps3 and 360 versions are dumbed down.
Spycrab Potato Hold-Your-Fire 544	Posted - 2013.11.03 19:19:00 - [4] - Quote soulreaper73 wrote: MPX Shad wrote: After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong. LOL! BF4 is meant for the next gen consoles and pc. the ps3 and 360 versions are dumbed down. ^ I use a Logi LAV as a LOGI LAV. Strange, huh?
MPX Shad Multiplex Gaming Li3 Federation 1	Posted - 2013.11.03 19:20:00 - [5] - Quote soulreaper73 wrote: MPX Shad wrote: After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong. LOL! BF4 is meant for the next gen consoles and pc. the ps3 and 360 versions are dumbed down. So they made a bad looking game on purpose. Thats no excuse Bro. Next gen will always look better, but Im speaking on the here and now...PS3
jenza aranda BetaMax. 2004	Posted - 2013.11.03 19:26:00 - [6] - Quote you should have seen Version 1 of closed beta :P 0101001101101111011011110110111010011001 Dust 514 101
THE GREY CARDINAL PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 214	Posted - 2013.11.03 19:45:00 - [7] - Quote E3 build made my eyes bleed. The game has come so far since back then. CCP have done an amazing job and the game really does look fantastic these days. I can't imagine how beautiful the game will look on PS4.
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 493	Posted - 2013.11.03 19:54:00 - [8] - Quote MPX Shad wrote: soulreaper73 wrote: MPX Shad wrote: After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong. LOL! BF4 is meant for the next gen consoles and pc. the ps3 and 360 versions are dumbed down. So they made a bad looking game on purpose. Thats no excuse Bro. Next gen will always look better, but Im speaking on the here and now...PS3 You can always upgrade to a pc or next gen. P.S. Graphics do not make a game. I would rather play a ****** looking game that is fun than a pretty one that sucks. Case in point Dust. graphics were meh in chromosome, in uprising they are pretty, but the game is no longer fun.
IceStormers Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 55	Posted - 2013.11.03 20:00:00 - [9] - Quote i would be happy if it ran smoothly, but currently its still dodgy and needs some settings turned down since we are not going to ps4 / pc soon they do need to work on performance eitherway i did not like bf4 gfx do look good (pc version) but gameplay was not that fun when the game ends and i dont feel the hit of a loss or the great win, its just game after game its like using bpo in Dust
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 733	Posted - 2013.11.03 20:05:00 - [10] - Quote soulreaper73 wrote: MPX Shad wrote: soulreaper73 wrote: MPX Shad wrote: After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong. LOL! BF4 is meant for the next gen consoles and pc. the ps3 and 360 versions are dumbed down. So they made a bad looking game on purpose. Thats no excuse Bro. Next gen will always look better, but Im speaking on the here and now...PS3 You can always upgrade to a pc or next gen. P.S. Graphics do not make a game. I would rather play a **** looking game that is fun than a pretty one that sucks. Case in point Dust. graphics were meh in chromosome, in uprising they are pretty, but the game is no longer fun. Its still a bad excuse. They wanted to get some more money from the current gen colsoles, so they made a dumbed down game to do so. They would have made more money if they just made them really awesome for the next gen. EA folks, this is why I don't like Battlefield. Its a good enough game I guess, but nothing will ever get me to give money to EA again after ME3 happened. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94]** Burner of faces. The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 493	Posted - 2013.11.03 20:07:00 - [11] - Quote IceStormers wrote: i would be happy if it ran smoothly, but currently its still dodgy and needs some settings turned down since we are not going to ps4 / pc soon they do need to work on performance eitherway i did not like bf4 gfx do look good (pc version) but gameplay was not that fun when the game ends and i dont feel the hit of a loss or the great win, its just game after game its like using bpo in Dust Sometimes it was fun to log onto alts and just use the freebie suits trying to kill protobears. Sometimes a bunch of us would all log onto our alts and run nothing but the free militia suits. All four of us would attack one proto dude at once and kill him. Rinse and repeat. It made for some interesting mail.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9839	Posted - 2013.11.03 20:09:00 - [12] - Quote Not surprising. Most game companies (and its not wrong to do this) cheat on their graphics quite a bit. Its fairly common that if they let you lower the Level of Detail enough (or if they ever made it that low) some of these games can possibly run on ps2 and xbox. Scripted buildings falling changing maps good ai don't consume a large amount of processing. Physics, Graphics and Sound rendering are horrendous monstrous consumer of memory. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Curren/t Theme \\= Advanced Heavy Machine Gun =// Unlocked.
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 493	Posted - 2013.11.03 20:11:00 - [13] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: soulreaper73 wrote: MPX Shad wrote: soulreaper73 wrote: MPX Shad wrote: After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong. LOL! BF4 is meant for the next gen consoles and pc. the ps3 and 360 versions are dumbed down. So they made a bad looking game on purpose. Thats no excuse Bro. Next gen will always look better, but Im speaking on the here and now...PS3 You can always upgrade to a pc or next gen. P.S. Graphics do not make a game. I would rather play a ****** looking game that is fun than a pretty one that sucks. Case in point Dust. graphics were meh in chromosome, in uprising they are pretty, but the game is no longer fun. Its still a bad excuse. They wanted to get some more money from the current gen colsoles, so they made a dumbed down game to do so. They would have made more money if they just made them really awesome for the next gen. EA folks, this is why I don't like Battlefield. Its a good enough game I guess, but nothing will ever get me to give money to EA again after ME3 happened. How would they make more money by refusing to let current gen players play it? That logic makes no sense. PS, the next gen versions and pc versions are not dumbed down. Case in point its 32 vs 32 on the next gen just like pc. However, I do feel your pain about ME3.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1171	Posted - 2013.11.03 20:16:00 - [14] - Quote Pre-Uprising was kinda "flat" feeling. I still prepare my eyes for the orange overages of past builds. Then GodRays came with 1.0, and it was better - but had garbage application After they put in some lighting fixes in 1.4(?) things got a lot better. Caldari helmets are a little bland. But, after the new racial are in I wouldn't be surprised to see the originals get some updating, smoothing. There was a sun coming up over the horizon when I caught myself turning my head to avoid the glare while trying to spot a sniper. That's when I thought, "OK, they fixed the **** out of that. Good job, MFs." Cheeseburgers.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9839	Posted - 2013.11.03 20:24:00 - [15] - Quote Not sure they're going to change the caldari assault helmet its a bit too iconic now. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Curren/t Theme \\= Advanced Heavy Machine Gun =// Unlocked.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9839	Posted - 2013.11.03 20:26:00 - [16] - Quote I don't think the caldari assault helmet is changing any time soon, its a bit to iconic now. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Curren/t Theme \\= Advanced Heavy Machine Gun =// Unlocked.
IceStormers Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 56	Posted - 2013.11.04 12:56:00 - [17] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: DP >< I will say there were elements that where stronger and better in the earlier builds I would like to see return like fog, snow flurries, and few other moods. I do want to see the gfx improve in time, however i think its so low on MY priorities currently im thinking a year down the line would be about right with a move to pc and ps4 at the same time, leaving the current gfx on the ps3 client, so they do the same as they did with EvE with a high gfx client and a high performance client,
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4352	Posted - 2013.11.04 16:30:00 - [18] - Quote LOL @ OP
Meeko Fent Expert Intervention Caldari State 1358	Posted - 2013.11.04 16:37:00 - [19] - Quote Looks don't make the game. I don't care if DUST was looking like BF4. If I enjoy it, then I will enjoy it regardless of the prettiness of the graphics. Meeko's Novelty Shop Opening Soon! We (will)sell all the novelty items you desire! Really! King of Uncertainty.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3618	Posted - 2013.11.04 16:41:00 - [20] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: LOL @ OP You're still around? Huh, that's surprising... ANON Diplomat // 3rd Place Winner of the Eight Thousand Suns Fiction Contest
Sephirian Fair 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 123	Posted - 2013.11.04 16:42:00 - [21] - Quote To be completely fair, (Which is difficult for me. DICE has botched BF4 badly imo. Where's my Bad Company 3? -_-) the graphics were toned down on the PS3 and XBox 360 versions to accommodate the increased destruction. BF3 looked nice, but the destruction mechanics that were so heralded at its release were utter **. Nothing was destroyable, but it looked pretty. Big-*****-whoop. BF4 has similar destruction levels as Bad Company 2 did and to do that, at least for the previous gen, they had to tone down the graphics. The PS3 and Xbox 360 versions were always considered afterthoughts and are just a poor done port to grab money, but for all the bad they've done... This is a legitimate reason why something is "dumbed-down." Destruction >>> Graphics a thousand times over. I would kill for Dust to be on the Frostbite engine, but that will unfortunately never happen.
Eldest Dragon 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 281	Posted - 2013.11.04 16:45:00 - [22] - Quote THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: E3 build made my eyes bleed. The game has come so far since back then. CCP have done an amazing job and the game really does look fantastic these days. I can't imagine how beautiful the game will look on PS4. They said at the fan fest vegas event, there were no plans to move dust to ps4, that there were 80 million ps3's in the world lol. Everyone dies...but not everyone really lives.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3618	Posted - 2013.11.04 16:45:00 - [23] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Looks don't make the game. I don't care if DUST was looking like BF4. If I enjoy it, then I will enjoy it regardless of the prettiness of the graphics. All of these guys going on about which game is prettier failed to notice 12,600,000 people bought Minecraft. 10,000 in the last 24 hours. Anyone with half a brain in 3D Rendering also knows just how silly people are when they start talking in terms of graphics - the only reason there aren't games that have better graphics than Battlefield is because they're adhering to a Polygon/Animation budget (something Dust 514 has noticed graphics turned down for, like Dropship Propulsion and Repair Tool VFX). The last game that tried to leap bounds ahead of the average graphics card was Crysis and as a result it kicked the dicks in of anyone who tried to play it at the time, save for the elite. Graphics don't make a game and having better graphics doesn't make a game any more or less playable. Cut the graphics and Battlefield 3/4 is just some half-hearted FPS game with no real drive other than shooting the other guy in the face for arbitrary Skinner's Box style rewards. Edit: TL;DR Having better graphics than the competition just narrows your consumer base. ANON Diplomat // 3rd Place Winner of the Eight Thousand Suns Fiction Contest
Meeko Fent Expert Intervention Caldari State 1358	Posted - 2013.11.04 16:47:00 - [24] - Quote watches video Looks like a great game guys! Remember, try and watch it in its entirety. Meeko's Novelty Shop Opening Soon! We (will)sell all the novelty items you desire! Really! King of Uncertainty.
Meeko Fent Expert Intervention Caldari State 1362	Posted - 2013.11.04 17:21:00 - [25] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Looks don't make the game. I don't care if DUST was looking like BF4. If I enjoy it, then I will enjoy it regardless of the prettiness of the graphics. All of these guys going on about which game is prettier failed to notice 12,600,000 people bought Minecraft. 10,000 in the last 24 hours. Anyone with half a brain in 3D Rendering also knows just how silly people are when they start talking in terms of graphics - the only reason there aren't games that have better graphics than Battlefield is because they're adhering to a Polygon/Animation budget (something Dust 514 has noticed graphics turned down for, like Dropship Propulsion and Repair Tool VFX). The last game that tried to leap bounds ahead of the average graphics card was Crysis and as a result it kicked the dicks in of anyone who tried to play it at the time, save for the elite. Graphics don't make a game and having better graphics doesn't make a game any more or less playable. Cut the graphics and Battlefield 3/4 is just some half-hearted FPS game with no real drive other than shooting the other guy in the face for arbitrary Skinner's Box style rewards. Edit: TL;DR Having better graphics than the competition just narrows your consumer base. Lets look at all the good games with Average/bad graphics. Arma Minecraft Terraria FTL Thomas Was Alone Counterstrike Half-Life TF2 Spacebase DF-9 Kerbal Space Program These games prove that graphics don't make the game. Neither do prescripted cutscenes, or QTEs. They engulf you in the Game itself, and get you to have fun with the game, and not the games areas where it doesn't let you do something. AAA games always, to me, seem to go "Restrict the players choices, that way we can get them to see what WE want them to see, feel how We want them to feel, instead of choosing how they want to enjoy the game. Point in case of a AAA game doing EXACTLY that? The vid in my last post. Meeko's Novelty Shop Opening Soon! We (will)sell all the novelty items you desire! Really! King of Uncertainty.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3619	Posted - 2013.11.04 17:31:00 - [26] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: watches video Looks like a great game guys! Remember, try and watch it in its entirety. Absolutely hilarious - loved it. Thanks for this xD ANON Diplomat // 3rd Place Winner of the Eight Thousand Suns Fiction Contest
KryptixX Imperfects Negative-Feedback 424	Posted - 2013.11.04 17:32:00 - [27] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Cut the graphics and Battlefield 3/4 is just some half-hearted FPS game with no real drive other than shooting the other guy in the face for arbitrary Skinner's Box style rewards. Game mode variety makes it much less monotonous than DUST atm, regardless of how many skills you can upgrade. PC and FW don't help all that much either.
Meeko Fent Expert Intervention Caldari State 1364	Posted - 2013.11.04 17:32:00 - [28] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: watches video Looks like a great game guys! Remember, try and watch it in its entirety. Absolutely hilarious - loved it. Thanks for this xD See my point? Meeko's Novelty Shop Opening Soon! We (will)sell all the novelty items you desire! Really! King of Uncertainty.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3619	Posted - 2013.11.04 17:35:00 - [29] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Looks don't make the game. I don't care if DUST was looking like BF4. If I enjoy it, then I will enjoy it regardless of the prettiness of the graphics. All of these guys going on about which game is prettier failed to notice 12,600,000 people bought Minecraft. 10,000 in the last 24 hours. Anyone with half a brain in 3D Rendering also knows just how silly people are when they start talking in terms of graphics - the only reason there aren't games that have better graphics than Battlefield is because they're adhering to a Polygon/Animation budget (something Dust 514 has noticed graphics turned down for, like Dropship Propulsion and Repair Tool VFX). The last game that tried to leap bounds ahead of the average graphics card was Crysis and as a result it kicked the dicks in of anyone who tried to play it at the time, save for the elite. Graphics don't make a game and having better graphics doesn't make a game any more or less playable. Cut the graphics and Battlefield 3/4 is just some half-hearted FPS game with no real drive other than shooting the other guy in the face for arbitrary Skinner's Box style rewards. Edit: TL;DR Having better graphics than the competition just narrows your consumer base. Lets look at all the good games with Average/bad graphics. Arma Minecraft Terraria FTL Thomas Was Alone Counterstrike Half-Life TF2 Spacebase DF-9 Kerbal Space Program These games prove that graphics don't make the game. Neither do prescripted cutscenes, or QTEs. They engulf you in the Game itself, and get you to have fun with the game, and not the games areas where it doesn't let you do something. AAA games always, to me, seem to go "Restrict the players choices, that way we can get them to see what WE want them to see, feel how We want them to feel, instead of choosing how they want to enjoy the game. Point in case of a AAA game doing EXACTLY that? The vid in my last post. Unfortunately most of the stuff you listed are PC games!! You kinda have to guide Console gamers around on a leash for them to feel like they get the full experience, which is incredibly unfortunate. A lot of people that play Dust 514 always seem to say the same thing: "There's nothing to do, there's no drive." Which is contradictory to what the game itself offers - Eve Online, and subsequently Dust 514, don't give you any drive. You give yourself the drive. You're free to do whatever you want. Join a corporation and make a name for yourself, a reputation as it were. Fight for Faction Warfare and make a difference in the -huge- war that's going on. The only REAL issue with Dust 514 at the moment is that most of that stuff isn't as noticable as we'd like it to be, but they're already working on that xD ANON Diplomat // 3rd Place Winner of the Eight Thousand Suns Fiction Contest
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3619	Posted - 2013.11.04 17:36:00 - [30] - Quote KryptixX wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Cut the graphics and Battlefield 3/4 is just some half-hearted FPS game with no real drive other than shooting the other guy in the face for arbitrary Skinner's Box style rewards. Game mode variety makes it much less monotonous than DUST atm, regardless of how many skills you can upgrade. PC and FW don't help all that much either. That's all well and good but at the end of the day no amount of game modes are going to give a player in Battlefield some sense of purpose - what's the point? Sure, Dust 514 is monotonous but it's the overarching scheme of things that matters. See my previous post =D ANON Diplomat // 3rd Place Winner of the Eight Thousand Suns Fiction Contest
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 85	Posted - 2013.11.04 18:46:00 - [31] - Quote It is pretty dumb down from the ps4 version . I'm sure once the ps4 releases they will upgrade to it. And I'm sure that the Bf4 will offer some pretty intense , and competitive matches. ( Commentary can get annoying)
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4585	Posted - 2013.11.04 19:19:00 - [32] - Quote soulreaper73 wrote: MPX Shad wrote: After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong. LOL! BF4 is meant for the next gen consoles and pc. the ps3 and 360 versions are dumbed down. Because clearly comparing a PS3 game to a PS4 game isn't unfair at all right? Oh wait. What the OP is saying is that Dust beats BF4 on graphics on PS3. Obviously not on the PS4, lol. Level 4 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
KryptixX Imperfects Negative-Feedback 424	Posted - 2013.11.04 19:55:00 - [33] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: KryptixX wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Cut the graphics and Battlefield 3/4 is just some half-hearted FPS game with no real drive other than shooting the other guy in the face for arbitrary Skinner's Box style rewards. Game mode variety makes it much less monotonous than DUST atm, regardless of how many skills you can upgrade. PC and FW don't help all that much either. That's all well and good but at the end of the day no amount of game modes are going to give a player in Battlefield some sense of purpose - what's the point? Sure, Dust 514 is monotonous but it's the overarching scheme of things that matters. See my previous post =D META game is cool and all but if the game itself is stale I'd rather play something like BF4 and fly a plane around or play a gamemode like rush and enjoy the game itself, especially as a casual player.
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 553	Posted - 2013.11.04 20:32:00 - [34] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Unfortunately most of the stuff you listed are PC games!! You kinda have to guide Console gamers around on a leash for them to feel like they get the full experience, which is incredibly unfortunate. A lot of people that play Dust 514 always seem to say the same thing: "There's nothing to do, there's no drive." Which is contradictory to what the game itself offers - Eve Online, and subsequently Dust 514, don't give you any drive. You give yourself the drive. You're free to do whatever you want. Join a corporation and make a name for yourself, a reputation as it were. Fight for Faction Warfare and make a difference in the -huge- war that's going on. The only REAL issue with Dust 514 at the moment is that most of that stuff isn't as noticable as we'd like it to be, but they're already working on that xD The no drive has little to do with console gamers. It is a combination of three things First, this is a FPS with RPG elements which isn't common. One of the commonalities of RPGs is that they expect you to define who your character is. However, Dust 514 is an FPS mainly and thus will draw people who are interested in FPS games which normally provide other things to drive their players that Dust lacks. Second, as I said, other FPS games have something that Dust lacks. Immersion into the battlefield. When you play Battlefield 3, you hear explosions and gunfire in the distance, your ears "ring" when an explosion goes off near you, most actions are accompanied by characters saying something such as yelling "I need a medic" when requesting support or your enemies yelling when you shoot them. All of this combines to make you feel like you are in an actual battle and that is more than enough to drive players. Third, as you said, a lot of Dust's drive is hidden and abstract.
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 753	Posted - 2013.11.04 20:33:00 - [35] - Quote soulreaper73 wrote: MPX Shad wrote: After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong. LOL! BF4 is meant for the next gen consoles and pc. the ps3 and 360 versions are dumbed down. This. I got BF4 on the PS3 and really didn't expect anything better looking than BF3. Personally, I am enjoying myself. Also, a big plus is the game actually works!!! OMG!!!
Paran Tadec Ancient Exiles 1577	Posted - 2013.11.04 20:40:00 - [36] - Quote MPX Shad wrote: soulreaper73 wrote: MPX Shad wrote: After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong. LOL! BF4 is meant for the next gen consoles and pc. the ps3 and 360 versions are dumbed down. So they made a bad looking game on purpose. Thats no excuse Bro. Next gen will always look better, but Im speaking on the here and now...PS3 Thread is irrelevant in 2 weeks. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3623	Posted - 2013.11.04 23:35:00 - [37] - Quote Krom Ganesh wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Unfortunately most of the stuff you listed are PC games!! You kinda have to guide Console gamers around on a leash for them to feel like they get the full experience, which is incredibly unfortunate. A lot of people that play Dust 514 always seem to say the same thing: "There's nothing to do, there's no drive." Which is contradictory to what the game itself offers - Eve Online, and subsequently Dust 514, don't give you any drive. You give yourself the drive. You're free to do whatever you want. Join a corporation and make a name for yourself, a reputation as it were. Fight for Faction Warfare and make a difference in the -huge- war that's going on. The only REAL issue with Dust 514 at the moment is that most of that stuff isn't as noticable as we'd like it to be, but they're already working on that xD The no drive has little to do with console gamers. It is a combination of three things First, this is a FPS with RPG elements which isn't common. One of the commonalities of RPGs is that they expect you to define who your character is. However, Dust 514 is an FPS mainly and thus will draw people who are interested in FPS games which normally provide other things to drive their players that Dust lacks. Second, as I said, other FPS games have something that Dust lacks. Immersion into the battlefield. Different FPS achieve this in different ways but the most applicable would probably be Battlefield due to Dust wanting to be of similar scale as BF battles. When you play Battlefield 3, you hear explosions and gunfire in the distance, your ears "ring" when an explosion goes off near you, most actions are accompanied by characters saying something such as yelling "I need a medic" when requesting support or your enemies yelling when you shoot them. All of this combines to make you feel like you are in an actual battle and that is more than enough to drive players. Third, as you said, a lot of Dust's drive is hidden and abstract. Everything you mentioned in the second aspect can be utilized in a later expansion - CCP made it abundantly clear that they want the core game to work before going crazy with the new content. There's still a lot to go: Gas, lava, storm planets being a few awesome examples... MTACs, Fighters, Speeders... New weapons... Skyfire Battery... That's all in the future. It's not just a new map pack and releasing weaponry that wasn't done when the game released, this is constant free expansions and updates that will keep coming as long as CCP deems it necessary. And hey, who's to say Dust 514 WONT be released for the PS4? They aren't working on it right now for obvious reasons - some of broke ******* can't afford to drop the money on a completely new console right now. I'm a PC gamer who bought the PS3 solely for Dust 514. Just saying, it's not that the option isn't available it's just not their focus right now. Eve Online got the Trinity expansion which completely re-textured all of the ships, making a massive graphical improvement and ever since Retribution we've been getting all sorts of fancy new graphical elements - so you know they're not above doing it once they feel that the actual mechanics of the game are alright. Hell, Battlefield 3 never even bothered to patch the obvious bugs in their single player - just getting the NPCs to load in is a task and half, so don't say that this is unique to CCP, lol. ANON Diplomat // 3rd Place Winner of the Eight Thousand Suns Fiction Contest
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4411	Posted - 2013.11.04 23:45:00 - [38] - Quote Sorry but playing BF4 on current gen is a joke. That game wasn't made for it, but EA still published it because it's a money grab, and people still bought it. That game shines on next gen and PC. But even IF you want to compare...lol BF4 has so much more going on than DUST will ever have. Destruction alone is the reason why rendering is crap. A whole map changes based on destroying a wall, meanwhile in DUST a LAV "blows up" ...please. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2587	Posted - 2013.11.04 23:47:00 - [39] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Sorry but playing BF4 on current gen is a joke. That game wasn't made for it, but EA still published it because it's a money grab, and people still bought it. That game shines on next gen and PC. But even IF you want to compare...lol BF4 has so much more going on than DUST will ever have. Destruction alone is the reason why rendering is crap. A whole map changes based on destroying a wall, meanwhile in DUST a LAV "blows up" from a ridiculously overpowered no-skill swarm launcher ...please. Fixed The newer the berry the dumber the juice.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9897	Posted - 2013.11.05 00:33:00 - [40] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: watches video Looks like a great game guys! Remember, try and watch it in its entirety. QA? CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Curren/t Theme \\= Advanced Heavy Machine Gun =// Unlocked.
dogmanpig black market bank 31	Posted - 2013.11.05 01:00:00 - [41] - Quote soulreaper73 wrote: MPX Shad wrote: soulreaper73 wrote: MPX Shad wrote: After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong. LOL! BF4 is meant for the next gen consoles and pc. the ps3 and 360 versions are dumbed down. So they made a bad looking game on purpose. Thats no excuse Bro. Next gen will always look better, but Im speaking on the here and now...PS3 You can always upgrade to a pc or next gen. P.S. Graphics do not make a game. I would rather play a ****** looking game that is fun than a pretty one that sucks. Case in point Dust. graphics were meh in chromosome, in uprising they are pretty, but the game is no longer fun. i was fine with the graphics in chromosme and it didn't negatively effect gameplay.... uprising is negatively effecting gameplay while not being up to BF3 level of graphics. in a side by side BF3 has better graphics so this thread is just LOL to me. i rarely had any rendering problems in BF4 beta while i cant go 2 minutes without fighting rendering in dust. i played the BF4 beta on PS3 btw so your claim that it had worse rendering is just a lie. there was only one place in conquest that had a issue, in dust its everywhere. You hate me, I hate you. Lets keep it that way. Level 7 1/3 Forum alt. "Its worth half a penny and a reach around"
bonkersfox Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 245	Posted - 2013.11.05 11:08:00 - [42] - Quote dribble...... for a future war dust is very low tech, oh and you cant drop a building on a camping sniper in dust,
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1756	Posted - 2013.11.05 11:33:00 - [43] - Quote Next gen isn't next gen until about next year.
Ripcord19981 KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 212	Posted - 2013.11.06 23:25:00 - [44] - Quote MPX Shad wrote: soulreaper73 wrote: MPX Shad wrote: After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong. LOL! BF4 is meant for the next gen consoles and pc. the ps3 and 360 versions are dumbed down. So they made a bad looking game on purpose. Thats no excuse Bro. Next gen will always look better, but Im speaking on the here and now...PS3 is that you zion shad? I can only please one person per day. Today is not ur day, tomorrow doesn't look too bright either. Turkey sammich>taco
Zion Shad ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1949	Posted - 2013.11.06 23:29:00 - [45] - Quote Ripcord19981 wrote: MPX Shad wrote: soulreaper73 wrote: MPX Shad wrote: After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong. LOL! BF4 is meant for the next gen consoles and pc. the ps3 and 360 versions are dumbed down. So they made a bad looking game on purpose. Thats no excuse Bro. Next gen will always look better, but Im speaking on the here and now...PS3 is that you zion shad? Yes it's me and no I'm not dead Though it's off topic in this thread, Good to see you!.... and thanks for the bump

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