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MPX Shad
Multiplex Gaming Li3 Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.03 18:32:00 -
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After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong. |
Scheherazade VII
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.03 18:37:00 -
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MPX Shad wrote:After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong.
really??? well i'll be damned.
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.11.03 18:48:00 -
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MPX Shad wrote:After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong.
LOL! BF4 is meant for the next gen consoles and pc. the ps3 and 360 versions are dumbed down.
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Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
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Posted - 2013.11.03 19:19:00 -
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soulreaper73 wrote:MPX Shad wrote:After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong. LOL! BF4 is meant for the next gen consoles and pc. the ps3 and 360 versions are dumbed down. ^
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MPX Shad
Multiplex Gaming Li3 Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.03 19:20:00 -
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soulreaper73 wrote:MPX Shad wrote:After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong. LOL! BF4 is meant for the next gen consoles and pc. the ps3 and 360 versions are dumbed down.
So they made a bad looking game on purpose. Thats no excuse Bro. Next gen will always look better, but Im speaking on the here and now...PS3 |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
2004
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Posted - 2013.11.03 19:26:00 -
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you should have seen Version 1 of closed beta :P
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THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.11.03 19:45:00 -
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E3 build made my eyes bleed. The game has come so far since back then. CCP have done an amazing job and the game really does look fantastic these days. I can't imagine how beautiful the game will look on PS4. |
soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.11.03 19:54:00 -
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MPX Shad wrote:soulreaper73 wrote:MPX Shad wrote:After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong. LOL! BF4 is meant for the next gen consoles and pc. the ps3 and 360 versions are dumbed down. So they made a bad looking game on purpose. Thats no excuse Bro. Next gen will always look better, but Im speaking on the here and now...PS3
You can always upgrade to a pc or next gen.
P.S. Graphics do not make a game. I would rather play a ****** looking game that is fun than a pretty one that sucks. Case in point Dust. graphics were meh in chromosome, in uprising they are pretty, but the game is no longer fun.
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IceStormers
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.11.03 20:00:00 -
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i would be happy if it ran smoothly, but currently its still dodgy and needs some settings turned down
since we are not going to ps4 / pc soon they do need to work on performance
eitherway i did not like bf4 gfx do look good (pc version) but gameplay was not that fun when the game ends and i dont feel the hit of a loss or the great win, its just game after game
its like using bpo in Dust |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.03 20:05:00 -
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soulreaper73 wrote:MPX Shad wrote:soulreaper73 wrote:MPX Shad wrote:After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong. LOL! BF4 is meant for the next gen consoles and pc. the ps3 and 360 versions are dumbed down. So they made a bad looking game on purpose. Thats no excuse Bro. Next gen will always look better, but Im speaking on the here and now...PS3 You can always upgrade to a pc or next gen. P.S. Graphics do not make a game. I would rather play a ****** looking game that is fun than a pretty one that sucks. Case in point Dust. graphics were meh in chromosome, in uprising they are pretty, but the game is no longer fun. Its still a bad excuse. They wanted to get some more money from the current gen colsoles, so they made a dumbed down game to do so. They would have made more money if they just made them really awesome for the next gen. EA folks, this is why I don't like Battlefield. Its a good enough game I guess, but nothing will ever get me to give money to EA again after ME3 happened.
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Burner of faces.
The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.11.03 20:07:00 -
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IceStormers wrote:i would be happy if it ran smoothly, but currently its still dodgy and needs some settings turned down
since we are not going to ps4 / pc soon they do need to work on performance
eitherway i did not like bf4 gfx do look good (pc version) but gameplay was not that fun when the game ends and i dont feel the hit of a loss or the great win, its just game after game
its like using bpo in Dust
Sometimes it was fun to log onto alts and just use the freebie suits trying to kill protobears. Sometimes a bunch of us would all log onto our alts and run nothing but the free militia suits. All four of us would attack one proto dude at once and kill him. Rinse and repeat. It made for some interesting mail.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.11.03 20:09:00 -
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Not surprising. Most game companies (and its not wrong to do this) cheat on their graphics quite a bit. Its fairly common that if they let you lower the Level of Detail enough (or if they ever made it that low) some of these games can possibly run on ps2 and xbox.
Scripted buildings falling changing maps good ai don't consume a large amount of processing.
Physics, Graphics and Sound rendering are horrendous monstrous consumer of memory.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier Specialist
Curren/t Theme \\= Advanced Heavy Machine Gun =// Unlocked.
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.11.03 20:11:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:soulreaper73 wrote:MPX Shad wrote:soulreaper73 wrote:MPX Shad wrote:After getting sometime on BF4 Multiplayer on the PS3, I must say DUST514 has that game beat down in the looks department. The rendering so bad it looks like a PS2 game at times. So if anyone still wants to say this game does not hold up to Battlefield in graphics, you're wrong. LOL! BF4 is meant for the next gen consoles and pc. the ps3 and 360 versions are dumbed down. So they made a bad looking game on purpose. Thats no excuse Bro. Next gen will always look better, but Im speaking on the here and now...PS3 You can always upgrade to a pc or next gen. P.S. Graphics do not make a game. I would rather play a ****** looking game that is fun than a pretty one that sucks. Case in point Dust. graphics were meh in chromosome, in uprising they are pretty, but the game is no longer fun. Its still a bad excuse. They wanted to get some more money from the current gen colsoles, so they made a dumbed down game to do so. They would have made more money if they just made them really awesome for the next gen. EA folks, this is why I don't like Battlefield. Its a good enough game I guess, but nothing will ever get me to give money to EA again after ME3 happened.
How would they make more money by refusing to let current gen players play it? That logic makes no sense. PS, the next gen versions and pc versions are not dumbed down. Case in point its 32 vs 32 on the next gen just like pc. However, I do feel your pain about ME3.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2013.11.03 20:16:00 -
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Pre-Uprising was kinda "flat" feeling. I still prepare my eyes for the orange overages of past builds. Then GodRays came with 1.0, and it was better - but had garbage application After they put in some lighting fixes in 1.4(?) things got a lot better.
Caldari helmets are a little bland. But, after the new racial are in I wouldn't be surprised to see the originals get some updating, smoothing.
There was a sun coming up over the horizon when I caught myself turning my head to avoid the glare while trying to spot a sniper. That's when I thought, "OK, they fixed the **** out of that. Good job, MFs."
Cheeseburgers.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.11.03 20:24:00 -
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Not sure they're going to change the caldari assault helmet its a bit too iconic now.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier Specialist
Curren/t Theme \\= Advanced Heavy Machine Gun =// Unlocked.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.11.03 20:26:00 -
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I don't think the caldari assault helmet is changing any time soon, its a bit to iconic now.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier Specialist
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IceStormers
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.11.04 12:56:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:DP ><
I will say there were elements that where stronger and better in the earlier builds I would like to see return like fog, snow flurries, and few other moods.
I do want to see the gfx improve in time, however i think its so low on MY priorities currently im thinking a year down the line would be about right with a move to pc and ps4 at the same time, leaving the current gfx on the ps3 client, so they do the same as they did with EvE with a high gfx client and a high performance client, |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.04 16:30:00 -
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LOL @ OP |
Meeko Fent
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.04 16:37:00 -
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Looks don't make the game.
I don't care if DUST was looking like BF4. If I enjoy it, then I will enjoy it regardless of the prettiness of the graphics.
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.11.04 16:41:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:LOL @ OP
You're still around? Huh, that's surprising...
ANON Diplomat // 3rd Place Winner of the Eight Thousand Suns Fiction Contest
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Sephirian Fair
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2013.11.04 16:42:00 -
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To be completely fair, (Which is difficult for me. DICE has botched BF4 badly imo. Where's my Bad Company 3? -_-) the graphics were toned down on the PS3 and XBox 360 versions to accommodate the increased destruction. BF3 looked nice, but the destruction mechanics that were so heralded at its release were utter ****. Nothing was destroyable, but it looked pretty. Big-*******-whoop.
BF4 has similar destruction levels as Bad Company 2 did and to do that, at least for the previous gen, they had to tone down the graphics. The PS3 and Xbox 360 versions were always considered afterthoughts and are just a poor done port to grab money, but for all the bad they've done... This is a legitimate reason why something is "dumbed-down." Destruction >>> Graphics a thousand times over. I would kill for Dust to be on the Frostbite engine, but that will unfortunately never happen. |
Eldest Dragon
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2013.11.04 16:45:00 -
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THE GREY CARDINAL wrote:E3 build made my eyes bleed. The game has come so far since back then. CCP have done an amazing job and the game really does look fantastic these days. I can't imagine how beautiful the game will look on PS4.
They said at the fan fest vegas event, there were no plans to move dust to ps4, that there were 80 million ps3's in the world lol.
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.11.04 16:45:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Looks don't make the game.
I don't care if DUST was looking like BF4. If I enjoy it, then I will enjoy it regardless of the prettiness of the graphics.
All of these guys going on about which game is prettier failed to notice 12,600,000 people bought Minecraft. 10,000 in the last 24 hours.
Anyone with half a brain in 3D Rendering also knows just how silly people are when they start talking in terms of graphics - the only reason there aren't games that have better graphics than Battlefield is because they're adhering to a Polygon/Animation budget (something Dust 514 has noticed graphics turned down for, like Dropship Propulsion and Repair Tool VFX). The last game that tried to leap bounds ahead of the average graphics card was Crysis and as a result it kicked the dicks in of anyone who tried to play it at the time, save for the elite.
Graphics don't make a game and having better graphics doesn't make a game any more or less playable. Cut the graphics and Battlefield 3/4 is just some half-hearted FPS game with no real drive other than shooting the other guy in the face for arbitrary Skinner's Box style rewards.
Edit: TL;DR Having better graphics than the competition just narrows your consumer base.
ANON Diplomat // 3rd Place Winner of the Eight Thousand Suns Fiction Contest
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Meeko Fent
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.04 16:47:00 -
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*watches video*
Looks like a great game guys!
Remember, try and watch it in its entirety.
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Meeko Fent
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.04 17:21:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Looks don't make the game.
I don't care if DUST was looking like BF4. If I enjoy it, then I will enjoy it regardless of the prettiness of the graphics. All of these guys going on about which game is prettier failed to notice 12,600,000 people bought Minecraft. 10,000 in the last 24 hours. Anyone with half a brain in 3D Rendering also knows just how silly people are when they start talking in terms of graphics - the only reason there aren't games that have better graphics than Battlefield is because they're adhering to a Polygon/Animation budget (something Dust 514 has noticed graphics turned down for, like Dropship Propulsion and Repair Tool VFX). The last game that tried to leap bounds ahead of the average graphics card was Crysis and as a result it kicked the dicks in of anyone who tried to play it at the time, save for the elite. Graphics don't make a game and having better graphics doesn't make a game any more or less playable. Cut the graphics and Battlefield 3/4 is just some half-hearted FPS game with no real drive other than shooting the other guy in the face for arbitrary Skinner's Box style rewards. Edit: TL;DR Having better graphics than the competition just narrows your consumer base. Lets look at all the good games with Average/bad graphics.
Arma Minecraft Terraria FTL Thomas Was Alone Counterstrike Half-Life TF2 Spacebase DF-9 Kerbal Space Program
These games prove that graphics don't make the game.
Neither do prescripted cutscenes, or QTEs.
They engulf you in the Game itself, and get you to have fun with the game, and not the games areas where it doesn't let you do something.
AAA games always, to me, seem to go "Restrict the players choices, that way we can get them to see what WE want them to see, feel how We want them to feel, instead of choosing how they want to enjoy the game.
Point in case of a AAA game doing EXACTLY that?
The vid in my last post.
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.11.04 17:31:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:*watches video*Looks like a great game guys! Remember, try and watch it in its entirety.
Absolutely hilarious - loved it. Thanks for this xD
ANON Diplomat // 3rd Place Winner of the Eight Thousand Suns Fiction Contest
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KryptixX
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.11.04 17:32:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote: Cut the graphics and Battlefield 3/4 is just some half-hearted FPS game with no real drive other than shooting the other guy in the face for arbitrary Skinner's Box style rewards. Game mode variety makes it much less monotonous than DUST atm, regardless of how many skills you can upgrade. PC and FW don't help all that much either. |
Meeko Fent
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.04 17:32:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:*watches video*Looks like a great game guys! Remember, try and watch it in its entirety. Absolutely hilarious - loved it. Thanks for this xD See my point?
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.11.04 17:35:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Looks don't make the game.
I don't care if DUST was looking like BF4. If I enjoy it, then I will enjoy it regardless of the prettiness of the graphics. All of these guys going on about which game is prettier failed to notice 12,600,000 people bought Minecraft. 10,000 in the last 24 hours. Anyone with half a brain in 3D Rendering also knows just how silly people are when they start talking in terms of graphics - the only reason there aren't games that have better graphics than Battlefield is because they're adhering to a Polygon/Animation budget (something Dust 514 has noticed graphics turned down for, like Dropship Propulsion and Repair Tool VFX). The last game that tried to leap bounds ahead of the average graphics card was Crysis and as a result it kicked the dicks in of anyone who tried to play it at the time, save for the elite. Graphics don't make a game and having better graphics doesn't make a game any more or less playable. Cut the graphics and Battlefield 3/4 is just some half-hearted FPS game with no real drive other than shooting the other guy in the face for arbitrary Skinner's Box style rewards. Edit: TL;DR Having better graphics than the competition just narrows your consumer base. Lets look at all the good games with Average/bad graphics. Arma Minecraft Terraria FTL Thomas Was Alone Counterstrike Half-Life TF2 Spacebase DF-9 Kerbal Space Program These games prove that graphics don't make the game. Neither do prescripted cutscenes, or QTEs. They engulf you in the Game itself, and get you to have fun with the game, and not the games areas where it doesn't let you do something. AAA games always, to me, seem to go "Restrict the players choices, that way we can get them to see what WE want them to see, feel how We want them to feel, instead of choosing how they want to enjoy the game. Point in case of a AAA game doing EXACTLY that? The vid in my last post.
Unfortunately most of the stuff you listed are PC games!! You kinda have to guide Console gamers around on a leash for them to feel like they get the full experience, which is incredibly unfortunate. A lot of people that play Dust 514 always seem to say the same thing: "There's nothing to do, there's no drive."
Which is contradictory to what the game itself offers - Eve Online, and subsequently Dust 514, don't give you any drive. You give yourself the drive. You're free to do whatever you want. Join a corporation and make a name for yourself, a reputation as it were. Fight for Faction Warfare and make a difference in the -huge- war that's going on.
The only REAL issue with Dust 514 at the moment is that most of that stuff isn't as noticable as we'd like it to be, but they're already working on that xD
ANON Diplomat // 3rd Place Winner of the Eight Thousand Suns Fiction Contest
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.11.04 17:36:00 -
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KryptixX wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote: Cut the graphics and Battlefield 3/4 is just some half-hearted FPS game with no real drive other than shooting the other guy in the face for arbitrary Skinner's Box style rewards. Game mode variety makes it much less monotonous than DUST atm, regardless of how many skills you can upgrade. PC and FW don't help all that much either.
That's all well and good but at the end of the day no amount of game modes are going to give a player in Battlefield some sense of purpose - what's the point? Sure, Dust 514 is monotonous but it's the overarching scheme of things that matters. See my previous post =D
ANON Diplomat // 3rd Place Winner of the Eight Thousand Suns Fiction Contest
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