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Fools Axe
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.03 11:38:00 -
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I played dust for some time now, but idk what skills to upgrade and what weapons to buy.
Any advice? I want to be frontline/assault type a guy |
Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2013.11.03 11:50:00 -
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Well, I'd probably recommend you start off with the AR, of course - decent all around.
Your suit? That really depends on your playstyle. Generally speaking, a Logistics suit is a superior all-around frontline unit, though its lower speed makes it somewhat unsuited to flanking manouevres, but the versatility afforded by the multiple equipment slots is incredibly valuable.
You would probably have to give up your sidearm, however: if you find yourself needing to change weapons to kill persons with equivalent gear, probably either stay with the Assault-type suits, or pick up the Amarr Logistics suit.
Your race really depends on your playstyle, too. Amarr and Gallente are typically plate- and damage-mod- stacking monsters, while Caldari and Minmatar tend to tank shields and outflank. If you brawl, probably choose armour; if you prefer your footwork, shield-tanking is definitely the go.
In the meantime, while you decide, you can't go wrong with pumping up your core skills - things like Armour and Shield upgrades, and your PG and CPU skills, for example. Those'll be useful no matter what suits you end up running - no-one ever said no to free hitpoints, after all.
Too busy clicking cookies to play DUST...
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Fools Axe
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.03 11:53:00 -
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Thanks for help, I'll go with Caladri and AR |
DR FEB
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.11.03 12:10:00 -
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you should try the scrambler rifle.the assault variant is the bane of shield tankers,e.g caldari
Y.O.L.U.T
You Only Live Unlimited Times
'Nuff said
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Awry Barux
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
219
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Posted - 2013.11.03 16:59:00 -
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Check out my alt's post here: Cost-effective slaying: The Amarr Logi
If you want all-around AR excellence, there's no better suit, and I've got a skill planner there so you can see exactly what skills you need. |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
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Posted - 2013.11.03 17:56:00 -
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Assault rifle will get boring, trust me you wanna wait til combat rifles or rail rifles come out until then try the STD or MLT assault rifle.
Assassination is my thing.
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DR FEB
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.11.03 18:01:00 -
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give the good old noob tube a try(mass driver) and play a couple of rounds.i like it and it was the first weapon I skilled in
Y.O.L.U.T
You Only Live Unlimited Times
'Nuff said
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Fools Axe
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.03 19:53:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Assault rifle will get boring, trust me you wanna wait til combat rifles or rail rifles come out until then try the STD or MLT assault rifle.
They should make railguns for infantry, they would be OP
Noob in Dust
Pro in CoD
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
302
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Posted - 2013.11.04 08:35:00 -
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Assault scrambler rifle with high proficiency = Oh Yeah 
Perfect on a caldari assault.
Get 1 Enhanced Plates, complex extenders, CPU and PG upgrades to level 3. scrambler or SMG as sidearm.
Pretty much cookie cutter build right now. Unless you go logi.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2013.11.04 15:58:00 -
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Fools Axe wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Assault rifle will get boring, trust me you wanna wait til combat rifles or rail rifles come out until then try the STD or MLT assault rifle. They should make railguns for infantry, they would be OP
They do. The Forge Gun is basically a hand held rail turret. Also the Sniper Rifle and the new Rail Rifle use the same technology on a smaller scale.
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Aseair
The Immortal 514
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Posted - 2013.11.04 17:46:00 -
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I believe the benefit of an Assault suit is their all-around versatility and balanced stats (although, to be honest, logis have the upper hand right now) so your best bet is to play around, figure out what your niche is. Test out different militia weapons, perhaps, and like stated above work on your core skills until then. Dust is designed for everyone to have their own playstyle and still be effective if they're smart enough. Simply put, go out there, have fun, and shoot everyone who isn't blue in whatever way you deem necessary 
Memento vos sunt immortales
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Quil Evrything
DUST University
Ivy League
343
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Posted - 2013.11.05 00:08:00 -
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Aseair wrote:Simply put, go out there, have fun, and shoot everyone who isn't blue in whatever way you deem necessary
nono... "in whatever way you deem FUN"
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Lanius Pulvis
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.11.05 00:28:00 -
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Personally I would try playing around first with anything militia, especially the Dropsuits, they make militia variants of all races basic suit. This will allow you to figure out whether you want to be faster like the Minmatar, shield tanked like the Caldari, armor tanked like the Gallente or balanced between all like the Amar. And I hate to recommend the AR to any one just because it's OP and hopefully soon to get balanced with other rifles...but, it's a cost effective slayer, you can cut through a proto suit with a militia AR if you skill into it enough. I personally love the MD, even though I get my *** handed to me by AR users. Skilling into grenades is a must for a frontline soldier too, and I'd recommend at least 1 level in nanohives so you can be a bit more self-sufficient with your slaying.
Not new, just new to you.
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Rentoku Gratzl
duna corp
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Posted - 2013.11.08 01:38:00 -
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I'm running amarr assault at the moment but I'm considering skilling into a different race as they have more beneficial bonuses now I understand the game. Might look at Logi Amarr too.though.
is there any specific medium suit that sits above the rest right now? |
CharCharOdell
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Posted - 2013.11.08 06:22:00 -
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well, using the GA assault suit and assault rifle is def the easiest way to go, atm, but that's gon na change when their range gets nerfed next month and the MN and CA rifles start picking them off before they can render, properly.
However, tbh, the shotgun is pretty damn good since 1.6 dropped and the mass driver is always a solid weapon for the combat logi. Scrambler and Laser rifles are for those especially skilled marksman. In fact, I dare say that all of the light weapons are pretty good atm, although no compare to the AR, just yet.
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Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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Awry Barux
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.08 06:53:00 -
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Rentoku Gratzl wrote:I'm running amarr assault at the moment but I'm considering skilling into a different race as they have more beneficial bonuses now I understand the game. Might look at Logi Amarr too.though.
is there any specific medium suit that sits above the rest right now?
Logis generally- Gal Logi for maximum tank (triage hives OP), Amarr Logi for having a sidearm while still having 3 equipment slots, Min Logi for maximum utility, Cal Logi for having a stupidly large amount of high and low slots. |
Lanius Pulvis
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.11.08 13:29:00 -
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Rentoku Gratzl wrote:I'm running amarr assault at the moment but I'm considering skilling into a different race as they have more beneficial bonuses now I understand the game. Might look at Logi Amarr too.though.
is there any specific medium suit that sits above the rest right now?
If you're already into Amar assault do the logi and run a MD/SMG combo. This gives you area denial and good close range support.
Not new, just new to you.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
369
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Posted - 2013.11.08 13:33:00 -
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http://tinyurl.com/d514-starter-guide
Please be aware that this guide is in beta stage.
+¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13.
CCP please make our decisions matter.
"AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
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Seeth Mensch
highland marines
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Posted - 2013.11.09 05:18:00 -
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Lots of ideas.
Some good, some...well, I feel otherwise. However, the one thing that will be a good choice no matter what is to skill into your core skills; PG, CPU, armor, shields. Get'm up there. Toy around with different weapons (either buy via AUR or get militia...if it's not an option, it's generally not long to skill into a weapon at level one. Be aware that there is generally a drastic difference between level one and 3!).
Really good players have high levels of core skills and can murder you in their militia gear. I know, it's happened to me a lot.
Have fun out there! |
Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division
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Posted - 2013.11.09 08:07:00 -
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Lanius Pulvis wrote:Personally I would try playing around first with anything militia, especially the Dropsuits, they make militia variants of all races basic suit. This will allow you to figure out whether you want to be faster like the Minmatar, shield tanked like the Caldari, armor tanked like the Gallente or balanced between all like the Amar. And I hate to recommend the AR to any one just because it's OP and hopefully soon to get balanced with other rifles...but, it's a cost effective slayer, you can cut through a proto suit with a militia AR if you skill into it enough. I personally love the MD, even though I get my *** handed to me by AR users. Skilling into grenades is a must for a frontline soldier too, and I'd recommend at least 1 level in nanohives so you can be a bit more self-sufficient with your slaying.
Honestly, i find it hard to use the mlt suits as a precursor to the real deal. Minmatar medium has caldaris slot setup, caldari stole minmatar's, gallente works -ish- and ammarr is just bipolar.
Light frame wise they're bakward too, gallente should get 2 lows, whereas minmatar should get 1-1
I would use those other 2 slots you have and make yourself an alt, name it something funny -mine is funky sundays- and grab a basic lv1 medium, grab a mlt ar, and try out some setups:
Gallente stacked with reppers, no plate
Minmatar stacking a dmg mod, a plate, and an extender
Amarr with recharger,dmgmod, and repper
Caldari with mlt shotgun, kinetic catalyzer, recharger, and dmg mod
Or even skill some whacky combos, like minmatar medium with a laser rifle, armor tanked, and has a dmg mod.
Minmatar light frame, using a mass driver
Honestly i use most of these, but you will find what you're successful in.
CCP wants me to specialize? But there's so many weapons!
'Unwise SP spending mode activated'
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CharCharOdell
1495
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Posted - 2013.11.09 10:03:00 -
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dude, get yourself a caldari assault and a shotgun. throw kinkats on it and BOOM! tankier than a scout and faster, too!
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Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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Rentoku Gratzl
duna corp
5
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Posted - 2013.11.09 21:40:00 -
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Just to avoid starting another thread I'm currently running Logi Amarr suit with a duvolle and smg
should I spec into shield repair or regulator? |
Canis Ferox
Ultramarine Corp
7
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Posted - 2013.11.19 18:02:00 -
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Don't rush in whatever you do. I ran Caldari Assault with GEK 38 all day every day for the first 5 months of playing Dust. It never got boring by the way. But then I realised I needed change and saved up 2.5 maybe 3 million skill points, reading and watching videos for research.
As I was doing this patches 1.5 and 1.6 came in completely changing my play style and making all of my dropsuit fits unuseable. i had to rethink, retrain and I devoted myself to Gallente Scout so I can hide under enemy scans and run fast around the map - because I like it.
Find out what you like. Watch Pyrex and Lowratehitman on youtube. More importantly Join squads and ask about their suits adn about what corp their in. Since 'corporation tax' came about Corps Love new recruits! Just pick one with a lot of people playing in them at the time you play (a local one) and talk to them!
If you have no microphone, get one. My Dust experienced doubled in fun and interest when i finally got a headset abnd I got loads of corp invites too and you meet people who have spec'd into everythign and can tell you what it's like.
Sit on your SP. Wait until 1.7. Then see what the general thoughts are and see what you want to do. Beware of fads and trends -
I got so sick of getting trounced by Mass Drivers I spec'd into Advanced EXO 5 MD, 3 days before they finally got a nerf! Troll!
No one on these forums, youtube or in the war barge can tell you what fit will be right for you. Try not to be a jack-of-all-trades as i was at the start with level 1 to 3 in almost everything. you have to choose, specialize and then you get to kill, even with advanced gear!
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Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
1211
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Posted - 2013.11.19 19:02:00 -
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Just hopping in for a second to say a thing on Scrambler Rifles and Laser Rifles.
If you use them in a Caldari suit, you're going to have a bad time.
When they overheat, they give off a thermal blast. Thermal damage deals extra damage to shield. Which means, if you're in a firefight with a Caldari Assault suit and a Carthum SCAR, and you overheat, that's +10%* bonus feedback damage to you shield, which is your main form of tank.
As Charlotte must have told you, join up with the Learning Coalition and hang out with us. I can teach you anything you need to know, and we have plenty of other students you can squad up with. Channel: "Learning Coalition". Come hang out with us. :D
*It might be +20% damage. I can't remember if EM was +10% or Thermal was +10%. Either way, it's more damage.
~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.11.20 03:12:00 -
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Rentoku Gratzl wrote:Just to avoid starting another thread I'm currently running Logi Amarr suit with a duvolle and smg
should I spec into shield repair or regulator?
I have both complex regulators and rechargers/energizers. You're better off with plates and reppers, especially since the Amarr logi bonus makes reppers more effective.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Rentoku Gratzl
Legion of Eden
Covert Intervention
6
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Posted - 2013.11.23 13:52:00 -
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Hadn't been on in a while.
sacked the Duvolle as its too expensive at the moment.
now running:
Amaar Logi (basic)
Gek-38 + SMG
2x adv shield extension
2x basic armour plate
1x drop uplink
1x compact nanohive
locus grenade
next skill will be adv armour plates, if i go to basic shields the armour will fit nicely.
What point is it worth getting the Adv suit?
I have 2 points in the Amaar Logi suit, each level gives +1HP/s so its like always having a repper (so I don't run one, I get a little more tank).
I'm doing quite well as things are and like the assault rifle.
I also like ScR.
I've been clever though, I signed up on a second PSN account and have an alt that gets passive SP that way so I can try stuff (shame I missed out on the recruitment thing with it!!) don't think it's a logi weapon really.
quite consistently getting 1000+ per game now though!! |
CharCharOdell
1688
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Posted - 2013.11.26 02:14:00 -
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Don't shy away from the mass driver or scrambler.
They're truly terrifying.
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Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals
241
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Posted - 2013.11.26 02:36:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Don't shy away from the mass driver or scrambler.
They're truly terrifying.
both weapons crying for a nerf the scrambler I am almost sure of the mass driver maybe not because it's not being spammed as much anymore.
Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........
Tanker/Logi
Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have
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CharCharOdell
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Posted - 2013.11.26 04:28:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:Don't shy away from the mass driver or scrambler.
They're truly terrifying. both weapons crying for a nerf the scrambler I am almost sure of the mass driver maybe not because it's not being spammed as much anymore.
Mass driver no chance in hell it'll get nerfed. Maybe you'll see 1 per battle. Scrambled maybe. Its becing the Sr v ar
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