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Spaceman-Rob
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.02 20:57:00 -
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Nearly every match I've been in today has been a team full of squads against a team with none. Fed up with it, I don't generally squad up but it would be nice to have at least one organised squad on my team to prevent complete annihilation. |
CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP
129
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Posted - 2013.11.02 20:58:00 -
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Yes, yes it is!
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Scheherazade VII
Expert Intervention Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:00:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Nearly every match I've been in today has been a team full of squads against a team with none. Fed up with it, I don't generally squad up but it would be nice to have at least one organised squad on my team to prevent complete annihilation.
it's made the game unplayable. i'm not going to log on again until I know for sure this crap has been fixed.
And I was actually getting into the game, normally I don't even play for an hour at a time, played for hours the other day but had to keep backing out of games.
feels like im wasting time just trying to get into a playable game these days!!
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Spaceman-Rob
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
226
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:03:00 -
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It's crazy, it's almost guaranteed that if you join a match on your own you will be put on a team with everyone else who joined without a squad. And those who squad up will be the opposing team. |
Awry Barux
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
200
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:04:00 -
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Yep. It seems so obvious to split the squads between the teams, but no... |
Awry Barux
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
200
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:06:00 -
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Please go bump/comment on my thread about this in feedback and requests: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1451484 |
calvin b
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
837
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:06:00 -
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Ya I was in a match it was 10 of us vs 1 person. I was wondering why there was no one shooting at me and we had captured all objectives. So I grabbed an LAV and head into my red line to check to see who was on the other side. Only one poor soul. So I called out a militia tank and drove around to improve my skills. Just sat drove around shooting building until the enemy MCC was destroyed. They have to fix match making.
Do not eat the yellow snow
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A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
412
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:18:00 -
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Out of curiosity what match type are you entering? What is your general SP? Are you finding that you are facing high tier corp squads? as in they are much higher level than your toon.
For me I am finding FW to be the best match type to enter at the moment. There are still a number of stomps going on but I feel that there are far fewer of them. |
Spaceman-Rob
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
226
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:20:00 -
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A'Real Fury wrote:Out of curiosity what match type are you entering? What is your general SP? Are you finding that you are facing high tier corp squads? as in they are much higher level than your toon.
For me I am finding FW to be the best match type to enter at the moment. There are still a number of stomps going on but I feel that there are far fewer of them.
Pub matches mostly, 13.5 million sp. Yes high tier corps. |
Skyhound Solbrave
Rough Riders..
246
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:35:00 -
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LMAO "Teamwork is op, nerf it"
I haven't played BF4 yet, but does that have a no-squad option? If not, then this argument has absolutely no leg to stand on. |
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Spaceman-Rob
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
226
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:43:00 -
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Skyhound Solbrave wrote:LMAO "Teamwork is op, nerf it"
I haven't played BF4 yet, but does that have a no-squad option? If not, then this argument has absolutely no leg to stand on.
I think you misunderstand, but hey, if you say so bud. |
Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
941
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:44:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Nearly every match I've been in today has been a team full of squads against a team with none. Fed up with it, I don't generally squad up but it would be nice to have at least one organised squad on my team to prevent complete annihilation. Translation = "Hi, I like to solo and my complaint is that nobody likes to work in squads."
Also, if you side with this logic I hate your guts.
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1816
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:45:00 -
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So in a way you could say that all the solo players are ruining the game |
Awry Barux
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
202
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:47:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Nearly every match I've been in today has been a team full of squads against a team with none. Fed up with it, I don't generally squad up but it would be nice to have at least one organised squad on my team to prevent complete annihilation. Translation = "Hi, I like to solo and my complaint is that nobody likes to work in squads." Also, if you side with this logic I hate your guts.
This has nothing to do with that. The matchmaking algorithm should still evenly distribute squads between teams. I assume you're a super cool full-squad player- wouldn't you rather fight a real fight instead of just redlining 16 randoms? |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1817
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:49:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Nearly every match I've been in today has been a team full of squads against a team with none. Fed up with it, I don't generally squad up but it would be nice to have at least one organised squad on my team to prevent complete annihilation. Translation = "Hi, I like to solo and my complaint is that nobody likes to work in squads." Also, if you side with this logic I hate your guts.
This is pretty much the best post I've ever seen on the forums.
No person that runs solo has any right to ***** about anything. I remember when the game used to automatically throw people in squads. At least then people would possibly help out a squad mate accidentally.
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Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
942
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:56:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:Severance Pay wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Nearly every match I've been in today has been a team full of squads against a team with none. Fed up with it, I don't generally squad up but it would be nice to have at least one organised squad on my team to prevent complete annihilation. Translation = "Hi, I like to solo and my complaint is that nobody likes to work in squads." Also, if you side with this logic I hate your guts. This has nothing to do with that. The matchmaking algorithm should still evenly distribute squads between teams. I assume you're a super cool full-squad player- wouldn't you rather fight a real fight instead of just redlining 16 randoms? I am super cool with just logging in and playing. Sometimes I squad, sometimes not. I play to my strengths and nothing hurts my ego. I have about 16m in SP and about I take a beating sometimes, but hey that's life.
Match making could be better. They could let us pick our matches, but they don't. They don't wanna do that. CCP believes that match making can't get better. Perhaps someday they will reform it, but not for reasons like this guy is giving.
If you say "I am screwed if I solo and I don't have fun as solo player." CCP won't see this as a viable reason, frankly neither do I. A good reason for fixing match making is "I have 2M SP and I keep encountering people in proto gear, WTF". So if you say that then CCP will look into, and that means they might mess around with that when they have free time.
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
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Spaceman-Rob
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
227
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:57:00 -
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Wtf are some of you ass hats on about lol, the matchmaking is not distributing the squads amongst the teams evenly resulting in one team without a single squad getting stomped by the other team full of squads. |
Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
942
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:58:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:So in a way you could say that all the solo players are ruining the game ^ This.
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
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Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
943
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:59:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Wtf are some of you ass hats on about lol, the matchmaking is not distributing the squads amongst the teams evenly resulting in one team without a single squad getting stomped by the other team full of squads. You are complaining that you can't enjoy a comfortable solo experience because nobody else wants to make a team and that matchmaking doesn't want to put a squad in a team that doesn't want to make squads.
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
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Spaceman-Rob
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
228
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Posted - 2013.11.02 22:01:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Wtf are some of you ass hats on about lol, the matchmaking is not distributing the squads amongst the teams evenly resulting in one team without a single squad getting stomped by the other team full of squads. You are complaining that you can't enjoy a comfortable solo experience because nobody else wants to make a team and that matchmaking doesn't want to put a squad in a team that doesn't want to make squads.
Wtf are you on lol |
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Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy
583
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Posted - 2013.11.02 22:18:00 -
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so join a squad in squad finder thats why ccp wasted the time of those of us who have legit friends to play with ona reg..so you guys the scrubs would have a way to not get stomped use it and stop crying |
Awry Barux
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
204
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Posted - 2013.11.02 22:21:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote:Awry Barux wrote:Severance Pay wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Nearly every match I've been in today has been a team full of squads against a team with none. Fed up with it, I don't generally squad up but it would be nice to have at least one organised squad on my team to prevent complete annihilation. Translation = "Hi, I like to solo and my complaint is that nobody likes to work in squads." Also, if you side with this logic I hate your guts. This has nothing to do with that. The matchmaking algorithm should still evenly distribute squads between teams. I assume you're a super cool full-squad player- wouldn't you rather fight a real fight instead of just redlining 16 randoms? I am super cool with just logging in and playing. Sometimes I squad, sometimes not. I play to my strengths and nothing hurts my ego. I have about 16m in SP and about I take a beating sometimes, but hey that's life. Match making could be better. They could let us pick our matches, but they don't. They don't wanna do that. CCP believes that match making can't get better. Perhaps someday they will reform it, but not for reasons like this guy is giving. If you say "I am screwed if I solo and I don't have fun as solo player." CCP won't see this as a viable reason, frankly neither do I. A good reason for fixing match making is "I have 2M SP and I keep encountering people in proto gear, WTF". So if you say that then CCP will look into, and that means they might mess around with that when they have free time.
Last I checked, a significant portion of the player base, possibly the majority, runs solo the majority of the time. The solo experience is a nontrivial part of Dust, and one that CCP would be wise to pay at least a minor amount of attention to.
This issue affects both solo and squad players. I'm not asking CCP to cater to solo players- down that path lies madness and terrible game design. The issue isn't that there aren't enough squads joining games, the issue is that the matchmaker will fill one side entirely with squads, if it can, and put the vast majority of the unsquadded players on the other team. Teamwork is a critical aspect of this game, and building teams in this way practically guarantees one side a win. This is less fun for both sides- I, and I assume pretty much everyone, gets bored when they redline the enemy 3 minutes in, and gets bored of being redlined. Close battles are the most fun and exciting, and for battles to even have some semblance of balance, squads need to be divided evenly between the teams.
Do you really believe that, when two 6-man elite corporation squads join a match, they should be put on the same team? Particularly if they are the only squads in the match?
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Awry Barux
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
204
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Posted - 2013.11.02 22:23:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:so join a squad in squad finder thats why ccp wasted the time of those of us who have legit friends to play with ona reg..so you guys the scrubs would have a way to not get stomped use it and stop crying
FFS, that's not a fix and not at all related to the problem we're talking about. Doing that will just put me on the other side of the equation, stomping all over randoms as my squad is put on the same team as super corp squads. See my earlier post: all I want is an even distribution of squads between the two sides. This will be more fun for everyone involved. |
Spaceman-Rob
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
230
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Posted - 2013.11.02 22:24:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:so join a squad in squad finder thats why ccp wasted the time of those of us who have legit friends to play with ona reg..so you guys the scrubs would have a way to not get stomped use it and stop crying
Wow, there's some real **** heads playing this game, and your definitely one of them. Just to clarify, all I was asking get for was a matchmaking system that made good matches, two teams mixed with squads and non squads. |
Sky Kage
The Phoenix Federation The Ascendancy
13
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Posted - 2013.11.02 22:28:00 -
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+1
Don't know how your point is so hard for people to undersand.
16 randoms vs. 2 squads, 4 randoms is not fair.
1 squad, 10 randoms vs. 1 squad, 10 randoms is fair.
Happiness is as a butterfly. when pursed it's always just beyond your grasp. but should you relax, It may alight you
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Spaceman-Rob
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
230
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Posted - 2013.11.02 22:34:00 -
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Sky Kage wrote:+1
Don't know how your point is so hard for people to undersand.
16 randoms vs. 2 squads, 4 randoms is not balanced.
1 squad, 10 randoms vs. 1 squad, 10 randoms is balanced.
I think some of these bone heads actually thought they were good at this game, and didn't take a min to look and see that the other team was made up completely of randoms. What makes it even more laughable is that they don their best gear to proto stomp the already disadvantaged team. |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
442
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Posted - 2013.11.02 23:09:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Nearly every match I've been in today has been a team full of squads against a team with none. Fed up with it, I don't generally squad up but it would be nice to have at least one organised squad on my team to prevent complete annihilation. I wish this happened more in FW...
Solo Player
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Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
335
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Posted - 2013.11.02 23:39:00 -
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Sky Kage wrote:+1
Don't know how your point is so hard for people to undersand.
16 randoms vs. 2 squads, 4 randoms is not balanced.
1 squad, 10 randoms vs. 1 squad, 10 randoms is balanced. Upon reading this someone at CCP probably yelled "Eureca!" and ran out into the streets of Reykjavik in his underpants.
The matchmaking in public matches is, to me, the biggest issue in Dust and the solution seems really quite simple. I would like to know why CCP didn't manage to fix this yet. |
Infamous Erich
Inf4m0us
12
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Posted - 2013.11.02 23:40:00 -
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IF you can't beat em join em
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Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
872
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Posted - 2013.11.03 00:02:00 -
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I only play in squads, unless there are none in the Finder at all. There's many matchmaking benefits to being in a squad.
If you're solo, you can join any match with an empty slot. This means you get thrown into endless matches that are about to end. Since the team with the most slots open is most likely to be the losing team due to quitters, you have a high chance of being stuck a minute from a loss on a bad team. Likewise, if you're in a full squad it needs to find a match with 6 open slots. This is very rare, so Scotty almost always sets up a new match for you. If there are two squads in a newly formed match, there's a 50% chance they'll end up on the same team since CCP doesn't seem to try to split them up and just slaps them down. If you're flying solo when this happens, there's a 4 in 20 or 80% chance that you'll be one of the players on the opposing team since the squads took up almost all the slots on their team.
So, if every match has an average of two squads, when you fly solo there's a 40% chance to end up on the wrong side against both of them, a 50% chance for the teams to be even and only a 10% chance that you'll be the one at an advantage. Now, if you're in one of the squads, it's the opposite. 50% of the time the other squad will be on your side, 50% of the time it'll be even.
With three squads, 66% of the time you'll be at an advantage as a squad member and 33% of the time you'll be at a disadvantage. 28% of the time as a solo player you'll be at an advantage, while 72% of the time you'll be at a disadvantage. If we say that most games have either 2 or 3 squads in even amounts, then solo players are on a team with less squads than the opposing team 56% (most) of the time, on a team with more squads 19% of the time and on a team with an equal footing 25% of the time.
TL;DR: Provided CCP isn't trying to split squads between teams, solo players are at an disadvantage squad wise over 50% of the time. |
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2283
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Posted - 2013.11.03 00:11:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:Severance Pay wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Nearly every match I've been in today has been a team full of squads against a team with none. Fed up with it, I don't generally squad up but it would be nice to have at least one organised squad on my team to prevent complete annihilation. Translation = "Hi, I like to solo and my complaint is that nobody likes to work in squads." Also, if you side with this logic I hate your guts. This has nothing to do with that. The matchmaking algorithm should still evenly distribute squads between teams. I assume you're a super cool full-squad player- wouldn't you rather fight a real fight instead of just redlining 16 randoms?
If a lot of these squads wanted a real fight they wouldnt Q Synch to end up on the same side, the system is broken and exploitable so a lot of people will abuse it to pad their scores and stroke their egos pretending they are better than they are
Im not drunk, the planet just happens to be especially wobbly today.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
794
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Posted - 2013.11.03 00:20:00 -
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Yup.
Too many times two squads against zero opponents, all the way thru the game. |
KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
852
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Posted - 2013.11.03 00:23:00 -
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Just a small effort here to clarify the terms.
There is No Matchmaking in DUST. There never has been and the future looks bleak for it. Do Not Hold Your Breath, unless you want to turn blue and die. Then knock yourself out.
There is a hilariously bad squad deployment mechanism. How that is Supposed work is unknown, CCP/Shanghai has never committed nor commented on it. Just stuff 1 to 32 players into a match type that they have selected as one of their options.
And they said it was going to be better. Who would have suspected that it was going to get worse? Me. But, I am a cynic.
Also, check this url. Squad Deployment issues have been fixed, don't cha know? Near the bottom of the page. Mentioned more than once.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=34746&p=3
Welcome to DUST. |
KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
852
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Posted - 2013.11.03 00:25:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Mortedeamor wrote: -- snip jerk was comment -- Wow, there's some real di*k heads playing this game, and your definitely one of them. Just to clarify, all I was asking for was a matchmaking system that made good matches, two teams mixed with squads and non squads. You got the **** head count right. High levels of it. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2283
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Posted - 2013.11.03 00:44:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:Just a small effort here to clarify the terms. There is No Matchmaking in DUST. There never has been and the future looks bleak for it. Do Not Hold Your Breath, unless you want to turn blue and die. Then knock yourself out. There is a hilariously bad squad deployment mechanism. How that is Supposed work is unknown, CCP/Shanghai has never committed nor commented on it. Just stuff 1 to 32 players into a match type that they have selected as one of their options. And they said it was going to be better. Who would have suspected that it was going to get worse? Me. But, I am a cynic. Also, check this url. Squad Deployment issues have been fixed, don't cha know? Near the bottom of the page. Mentioned more than once. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=34746&p=3Welcome to DUST.
Just to weigh in a little bit, at one point in time there was matchmaking for a short while but it was disabled due to a bunch of people complaining they were not getting placed into matches as a squad You win a shiny nickel if you can guess what sort of squads were not getting placed into matches, starts with a q and ends with a sync
Im not drunk, the planet just happens to be especially wobbly today.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1818
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Posted - 2013.11.03 06:44:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:KalOfTheRathi wrote:Just a small effort here to clarify the terms. There is No Matchmaking in DUST. There never has been and the future looks bleak for it. Do Not Hold Your Breath, unless you want to turn blue and die. Then knock yourself out. There is a hilariously bad squad deployment mechanism. How that is Supposed work is unknown, CCP/Shanghai has never committed nor commented on it. Just stuff 1 to 32 players into a match type that they have selected as one of their options. And they said it was going to be better. Who would have suspected that it was going to get worse? Me. But, I am a cynic. Also, check this url. Squad Deployment issues have been fixed, don't cha know? Near the bottom of the page. Mentioned more than once. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=34746&p=3Welcome to DUST. Just to weigh in a little bit, at one point in time there was matchmaking for a short while but it was disabled due to a bunch of people complaining they were not getting placed into matches as a squad You win a shiny nickel if you can guess what sort of squads were not getting placed into matches, starts with a q and ends with a sync
I think I know what you are talking about, but it was dropping people from squads. They wouldn't deploy. You had to back out and pick up your buddy and try again.
You Qsync because it's fun to play with more of your friends, it's nothing to do with not wanting tough fights as someone alluded to earlier. I wish there was team deploy so I never had to play with or against randoms.
I'll never understand why so many people want to play a team game solo. If it wasn't for the friendships I've made in this game I wouldn't be playing it. To be quite honest I think solo play maybe one of the reasons why so many QQ all the time. It should be extremely difficult and frustrating to play solo.
I see SO many randoms going 1-8, 0-12, 3-15. At what point does a properly functioning brain figure that becoming part of a team could improve the overall experience? |
Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
336
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Posted - 2013.11.03 10:49:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I'll never understand why so many people want to play a team game solo. If it wasn't for the friendships I've made in this game I wouldn't be playing it. To be quite honest I think solo play maybe one of the reasons why so many QQ all the time. It should be extremely difficult and frustrating to play solo. There are different sort of players in Dust. I realize some people enjoy the social aspect of the game, I personally skip over most of those due to a lack of interest. Here's my side of the medal:
Often I start up the PS3 for merely ~60 minutes of Dust. That's perhaps two matches. I'm generally unlikely to spend some of that time on setting up a squad that shares my interest in gamemodes, I'd rather just get straight to the face-shooting. I bought a mic specifically for Dust, but then realized that I have no interest whatsoever in hearing other people's voices in my spare time beyond what can be communicated through attack/defend orders. I actually started paying attention to Dust when in an interview I read that Dust wishes to cater to both the casual and the hardcore crowd with the ability to scale between these two, much like in Eve.
That said I accept that other players are looking for a more involved style of play and I'm sure Dust can please everyone with the right mechanics. Personally I'm hoping for PC to be the summit for the hardcore players, public contracts to be a strictly carebear-kindergarden and FW to be a playground for those used-to-be pubbies that are looking to get more serious until they can muster the strength to claim territory in PC. Unfortunately FoxFour just designed FW to be a complement to public games, not a replacement. Well, perhaps it'll start working properly in 2015 then. |
Beld Errmon
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
1072
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Posted - 2013.11.03 11:13:00 -
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Anyone that thinks the OP is crying teamwork is OP are clearly a product of inbreeding.
Matchmaker is broken and doing ridiculous things all the time re: 16 players including 2 squads vs 4 randoms, people should be able to play the game casually and solo, many new players will start off this way and they will just walk away if match maker continues to throw them to the wolves with out even a full team to die with. |
ThePrinceOfNigeria
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
204
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Posted - 2013.11.03 11:55:00 -
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Skyhound Solbrave wrote:LMAO "Teamwork is op, nerf it"
I haven't played BF4 yet, but does that have a no-squad option? If not, then this argument has absolutely no leg to stand on.
BF4 auto adds you to an open squad when you join the match so everyone is on one. Also, during spawn you can leave squads and enter new squads in seconds. The whole process is fluid and well done IMO. Dust on the other hand... |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1823
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Posted - 2013.11.03 13:21:00 -
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Stefan Stahl wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I'll never understand why so many people want to play a team game solo. If it wasn't for the friendships I've made in this game I wouldn't be playing it. To be quite honest I think solo play maybe one of the reasons why so many QQ all the time. It should be extremely difficult and frustrating to play solo. There are different sort of players in Dust. I realize some people enjoy the social aspect of the game, I personally skip over most of those due to a lack of interest. Here's my side of the medal: Often I start up the PS3 for merely ~60 minutes of Dust. That's perhaps two matches. I'm generally unlikely to spend some of that time on setting up a squad that shares my interest in gamemodes, I'd rather just get straight to the face-shooting. I bought a mic specifically for Dust, but then realized that I have no interest whatsoever in hearing other people's voices in my spare time beyond what can be communicated through attack/defend orders. I actually started paying attention to Dust when in an interview I read that Dust wishes to cater to both the casual and the hardcore crowd with the ability to scale between these two, much like in Eve. That said I accept that other players are looking for a more involved style of play and I'm sure Dust can please everyone with the right mechanics. Personally I'm hoping for PC to be the summit for the hardcore players, public contracts to be a strictly carebear-kindergarden and FW to be a playground for those used-to-be pubbies that are looking to get more serious until they can muster the strength to claim territory in PC. Unfortunately FoxFour just designed FW to be a complement to public games, not a replacement. Well, perhaps it'll start working properly in 2015 then.
I get what you are saying, I don't like it when multiple squads are stacked against randoms. It feels like it's Major League against Special Olympics.
It's a shame you can't find the extra 5 minutes to squad up in a corp. The game will never be what you want it to be from a "matchmaking" standpoint. You solo people will always be at the mercy of the squads you are either unlucky or lucky enough to be paired with.
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Rynoceros
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Posted - 2013.11.03 13:23:00 -
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Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.03 13:29:00 -
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ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote:Skyhound Solbrave wrote:LMAO "Teamwork is op, nerf it"
I haven't played BF4 yet, but does that have a no-squad option? If not, then this argument has absolutely no leg to stand on. BF4 auto adds you to an open squad when you join the match so everyone is on one. Also, during spawn you can leave squads and enter new squads in seconds. The whole process is fluid and well done IMO. Dust on the other hand... But the OP doesn't want to be in a squad he wants to solo. He wants a squad injected into his team so he doesn't have to. He is mad that the matchmaking system doesn't put a squad on his team because it is constantly putting squads on the opposite team, most likely because no other team is available for the match. He still needs to cry that matchmaking is broken.
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
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Haerr
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.03 14:00:00 -
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I don't like waiting a long time (5~10+mins) to get into a match only to have it end before I can spawn in. Please fix.
Edit: Actually I don't like waiting any amount of time only to get into a match right as it end. Pretty please fix. |
Dust Junky 4Life
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Posted - 2013.11.03 22:13:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Nearly every match I've been in today has been a team full of squads against a team with none. Fed up with it, I don't generally squad up but it would be nice to have at least one organised squad on my team to prevent complete annihilation. Solution: create alt, join battle academy, kill noobs. Everyone has all the same gear available. fun fun fun
A shitstorm is coming.......
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