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The Black Jackal
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Posted - 2013.11.05 09:42:00 -
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Egypt Musk wrote:SponkSponkSponk wrote:The latest PFC rules suggest that in-alliance ringers are fine when notification is given. /thread The updated rules came in place after all this had already started. There is more going on behind the scene then you are sharing as well. That being said I would like it to be known the district will now be given not to anonymous but to a new and active corp looking to train. There PC dreams had recently been ripped away from them by a Tyrannical CEO. We have contacted local authorities and cleared these changes with them and will proceed with a purpose When D3m3nt3d M1nds has enough players to field a team an utilize the district properly there is no reason they cannot re-apply for a district under the new rules. I will leave you with this. From afar man cannot tell heel, face or pharaoh. I claim not to be a Pharaoh and I am no heel. What are you? -Egypt
The updated rules may have come into effect after this all started, but the initial rules also stated that Corporation and Alliance were interchangeable when applied to PFC Fights.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99858
Just thought you'd like to know.
"Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys."
Sun Tzu
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The Black Jackal
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.11.05 22:49:00 -
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stateproperty07 wrote:does TSOLE need a tampon?
That supposed to be an insult?
Sorry to say, but all evidence to the contrary is that Alliance and Corporation terms are interchangeable with regards to PFC.
This sorry fa+šade of justification should just be dropped, as you clearly have no leg to stand on and just admit that you are out to take a district on PFC because you either a) don't have one, or b) plan on pushing to gain the so-called 'bounty', or c) you just want to burn PFC to the ground.
Quote:Old rule #1 You have to be able to field a team of your corporation. this means 16 players in corp X fighting 16 players in corp Y
* as mentioned having a couple non-corp members on occasion due to availability will be acceptable, as long as
this is not the norm*
New Rule #1 1.) Getting attacked on PFC and no-showing for your fight ---as happened for 90% of the first battle hence the auto re attack.
Bringing a paid A team of ringers for a training fight also is frowned upon and shows poorly about how southern legion treat there alliance.
This makes me laugh. You think we, as an Oceanic Corporation where our prime time is 11 hours ahead of UTC can field our 'A' Team in the middle of a weekday? MOST of us are at work, or doing other daily household chores. So you're claim of a TSOLE 'A Team' is as full of crap as you are, I'm afraid.
We help Demented out, because they are in their alliance. We do not get paid, we offer our help because we do so with all our Alliance mates who require it, inclusive of MURDER INK, UTOPIAN PROPHETS, and more. Because it's what being in an Alliance is about.
"Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys."
Sun Tzu
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The Black Jackal
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.11.05 23:01:00 -
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stateproperty07 wrote:sounds like you sir need "Extra Absorbency"
Expanding on an insult that really isn't that bad... Golden.
"Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys."
Sun Tzu
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The Black Jackal
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.11.06 05:21:00 -
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With this, comes a day where ANON fielded almost and entire team (13 of 16) against D3M3NT3D M1NDZ that was simply augmented by TSOLE (Alliance) Ringers (3 of 16).
As A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S are so prolific on the rules, I'd like them to redress the rule that states that 'out of alliance' ringers are not allowed.
As far as I am aware, at the time of this posting, A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S and Unkn0wn Killers are not in an official alliance together, and have thus, fully breached the alleged rules of PFC which TSOLE and The Umbra Combine have followed to the letter.
They have cited that this attack is being pressed 'because members have invested too much ISK into the fight' to our diplomatic efforts.
If they are truly out to 'uphold the rules' of PFC they would now disqualify themselves and their 'training corporation' from holding a PFC district themselves, as it was run under unkn0wn killers name, and the team was ringed in.
If they are not trying to uphold the rules, they should admit here and now that it is not a breach of rules that is making them act, but a desire to either, take a district from an opponent considered 'soft' or trying to claim the bounty on PFC, or burn it to the ground.
"Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys."
Sun Tzu
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The Black Jackal
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.11.06 21:48:00 -
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Egypt Musk wrote:OK let get things straight.
Match 1 one member from demented mindz shows up hides in mmc trying to loop hole the no show clause I msg him letting him no that not fielding a team is a justifiable reason to flip said district instantly 8 or so tosole show... unknown wins with an atuo reattack as we still had 110+ clones
Match 2 : while considering a message on this thread tsole shows ups there are only 3 demented mindz on the field we get a msg from an informant that will not be named that tsole was paid to show up and contrary to what they had said on such forum about bringing players that need training names like insufficient data show up ..hmmm
between match 2 and three there is insult slangin and the threat that tsole with be bringing ringers to the fight posted in this thread...
tsole dimpolomats and anon diplomats touch base tsole threatens to indefinitely lock there districts on adetitde and will act on unknown with ringers as an act of agression aimed at both unknown and anon.
It is said on this very thread that tsole will both be there and be hiring ringers.
anon board of directors make the desion to not put unknown at fault for tsole's aggressions towards them and agree since we are allied will stay within the pfc rules fight along side a a select few unknown's.
Tsole trying to find another loop hole send demented minz into battle to be slaughtered...
It should be said between match 2 and 3 unknowns and anons officers meet and discussed the situation with those who are policing pfc now and were cleared to take said district and place it in the hands of a much more deserving corp.
What will happen tonight...
If Tsole can keep there nose out of unknown and demented mindz finial fight fight for the district we will show with only unknown killers ... that being said we will have 1 to 2 squads wait to see when we get to the war barge if it is in fact demented mindz that show up then we fight corp v corp to determine if you should in fact have the right to the district but tsole demented mindz and or ringers show ... well we all know what will happen then.
Tsole may have had good intentions but in the end they have broke blue with anonymous and possibly cause demented mindz there pfc district so they could puff out there chests ... not that it appears demented mindz has a player base large enough to warrant having it in the first place..
-Egypt
The threat to lock Aeditide is to protect our ally. If you are blue with TSOLE, as you state in saying we broke blue with you, then you are Blue with our alliance (which includes Demented mindz) as well, as we would not have agreed to blue ANON if it did not also cover our alliance members.
So be careful whom you accuse of breaking blue. And to that point, being CEO of The Southern Legion, AND Executor of The Umbra Combine, I have not heard about us setting, or agreeing to set ANON Blue at all.
So you've gone from accusing TSOLE and Demented Mindz of breaking PFC Rules, to 'having too much invested' when that argument wouldn't hold water, to 'they broke blue with us'.
At least make up your mind on what excuse you are going to use to falsely justify your attacks on our Ally's District.
"Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys."
Sun Tzu
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The Black Jackal
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.11.07 13:30:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Lysander71 wrote:Whatever floats your boat Egypt. Just sounds like you need to continually justify your position. I wonder if Anon can stand without AE backing them. Maybe Anon now needs AE more than AE needs Anon.  funny you say this you just made it very clear how scared you are of Ae and we never even mentioned them. Smh use any excuse to tarnish us be we are coming at you not AE. maybe if your allies could field a full team this wouldnt be an issue. Farmville is on facebook not new eden. its time to move foward and burn the crops down. also you used your A team vs our training corp yet you want to talk about who is backing us then when our A team showed not a single TSOLE member appeared its cool tho thats no biggie also you locked your district on aeditide btw just wanted to tell the community the things you are resorting to.  POW double whammy btw its FDAA Approved 3rd place squad cup finalist. jussaying yo!
That has to be the single most stupid post I have seen in this thread.
AE Polices PFC, Egypt MUSK says he spoke to the 'police' of PFC and they enabled him to 'take the district'. An action that took place before they placed their first attack.
Add onto this, that we never broke the rules of PFC as claimed, since we are in an Alliance, we are allowed to field ringers into an Allies team. ANON, however, is not formally in an ALLIANCE with unkno0wn killers, and thus blatantly broke the rules.
We DID NOT play our A Team against you. No matter what you say, it's a matter of fact that a weekday battle at 0:200 UTC TSOLE CANNOT field their A Team... we work, have lives outside of DUST and EVE. What you faced was a collection of Ringers, some good, some bad, but people drawn in to fill the ranks of the 'Alliance' Battle that happened to be on during the day.
Just so we are clear I will state it again... TSOLE CAN NOT field it's A-Team in what would be our MID DAY during the WEEK. It is not possible as most of our A TEAM (and we don't generally run with that term) is NOT PLAYING DUST, they are AT WORK, or AT SCHOOL, or AT HOME DOING CHORES, and LOOKING AFTER KIDS!
We did not show when ANON's A-Team showed because it was Dementeds fight. They pull in TSOLE or UTOPIAN PROHETS, or MURDER INK ringers AS NEEDED, not because they or we are afraid to lose. They were given the PFC district because they needed to learn about PC in a 'more controlled environment'.
As to the locking of the District on Aeditide... we were in negotiations with ANON to trade that district to you guys. As a direct result of your hostile actions in regards to Demented Mindz PFC district, we declined to negotiate further on the matter and locked the district until such time as an arrangement can be achieved after the PFC issue is resolved.
We don't need excuses to 'tarnish' you... you've done a fine job of doing that yourselves.
"Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys."
Sun Tzu
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The Black Jackal
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.11.08 13:47:00 -
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Let's be serious for a moment. Oh, sorry I forgot we're talking about Anonymous here.
You guys are as dense as lead. You ignore any cogent argument, and statement of the rules because it suits you to do so.
Your excuse has started as 'they broke the rules' to 'you broke blue with us' and 'now we're justified'.
I will state it, yet again, that WE CAN NOT FIELD OUR A TEAM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY DURING THE WEEK!
WE CAN NOT FIELD OUR A-TEAM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY DURING A WEEKDAY!
Got it yet? No?
WE CAN NOT FIELD OUR A-TEAM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY DURING A WEEKDAY!
You're proposal that we had 16 TSOLE Ringers is false. The first battle, a squad of 6 was brought in. the second battle it was roughly half and half Demented Mindz and TSOLE (6 a piece) you can't get 16 TSOLE into a demented mindz PC... it's not possible.. why? because you have to have a Demented mindz person to collect them.
Unless you can present to me absolute proof (which I would expect you did to Ancient Exiles to 'justify' your acquisition of the district under said PFC rules then there is no justification in taking action as you did. If Ancient Exiles ruled in your favour for any reason without proof of fact, and non-discussion with leadership of Demented Mindz or The Umbra Combine, then they have ruled without listening to both sides, and IF you present me absolute proof that you fought against 16 TSOLE (as I know no such proof exists) on THAT district at THAT time, evidence which would have to have been given to AE for them to make a judgement with any semblance of actual 'order' and policing.
But, hey, you'll ignore this logical argument in favour of proving yourselves to be stupid mindless drones with half a brain between most of your members.
The agreement brokered by your directors with regards to the PFC district should have been upheld, or does Egypt Musk promote directors who's opinions he does not value? If so, I feel sorry for those directors as they are given an illusion of power, but no actual power with which to make decisions.
"Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys."
Sun Tzu
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