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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.11.01 19:26:00 -
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CCP has done extensive research on this since closed beta using two sources of data:
1. Our feedback
2. Metrics
On the first point, we have been constantly helping CCP back in closed beta to figure out what the optimal prices should be so that these AUR items aren't too cheap but also not too expensive.
On the second point, CCP has been acquiring all sort of data from the background based on our purchase history, trends, etcs. to see which prices need better balancing.
So far, the price is just right in my opinion and I don't see any problem with it.
Besides, these AUR items are only meant to give you a taste of what the higher-tier ISK variants are capable of. They're not meant to be used on a constant basis except for maybe saving ISK.
Besides, often times we get good deals via the bundles which can help reduce the unit cost for you. Have you tried using those instead?
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
4865
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Posted - 2013.11.01 20:21:00 -
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Aqua-Regia wrote:I believe back in Beta most of the player was afraid of the pay and win factor. Now the game been out for a year with all this broken mechanics and game play to the point you can't even survive as a new player or even some old bad player.
This much is true.
So far, the price is just right in my opinion and I don't see any problem with it.
For you it may be, other may not feel the same.
Speak for yourself. How cheap or how expensive you view things is entirely dependent on how much you are willing to give for a particular merchandise and how much you earn in real life. Simple economics.
If this is true why is all the camo on the Aur weapon and suit? Why do CCP advertise the Aur gear on the market to the point helf of the items is AUR.
Just to test out the higher tier gear? What happen to pick your own playing style in this game.
Picking your own play style is still there. You're just confusing it with AUR items. CCP did specifically state from the very beginning that AUR items will just be there to either save you ISK or give you a taste of what's in the next tier. They never said that it will be tied to your play style. Play style to me is when I take an Ishukone Nova Knife and use it as a primary weapon rather than as a secondary weapon. That's my play style. Using an AUR variant doesn't change my play style.
Bundles in this game are bad to the point you end up wasting more Aur/money.
Not everyone here agree with me about price, but not everyone agrees with you on that same token.
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
4865
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Posted - 2013.11.01 20:25:00 -
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Overall, this discussion will one day become a moot point once the secondary market arrives and once players are given the power to control the market directly and sell anything (including AUR items) to each other for whatever ISK price they agree to. This way, if your lack real-world money, but have plenty of ISK to spend, then you'll be able to purchase AUR items with ISK from another player... assuming you agree to the other player's price.
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
4866
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Posted - 2013.11.01 20:34:00 -
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Luk Manag wrote:Aqua-Regia wrote:HYENAKILLER X wrote:They just need better packages.
Proto suit bpo
Proto weapon bpo
Active/passive monthly omega bundles
Let people forget about isk in combat so they can focus more on districts and corp building.
Its not pay to win if you still keep leveling skills the same way. Why Proto suit and weapon bpo? man people on this forums is crazy. It may be crazy, but that's about the only way CCP will get another 100$ out of me.
Don't count on it ever coming. If you read CCP's recent announcement at Eve Vegas about the BPOs, they're not going to allow anymore BPOs into the market except what you already have stored in your hangar.
Introducing more BPOs, especially at prototype level, will only undermine the industrial players in Eve Online who will likely be given the power to manufacture our gear for planetary domination. It makes sense anyways that Eve players have control of manufacturing due to the ten years of industry that they have perfected. But that's a different topic altogether. My point is that proto-level BPOs are bad for the incoming-economy.
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
4869
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Posted - 2013.11.01 20:47:00 -
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Aqua-Regia wrote:
Speak for yourself. How cheap or how expensive you view things is entirely dependent on how much you are willing to give for a particular merchandise and how much you earn in real life. Simple economics.
I have put over +1,000$ in this game and I have never did this with any game. I'm at the point that I see it is truly overprice for a game that all about killing each outer.
Picking your own play style is still there. You're just confusing it with AUR items. CCP did specifically state from the very beginning that AUR items will just be there to either save you ISK or give you a taste of what's in the next tier. They never said that it will be tied to your play style. Play style to me is when I take an Ishukone Nova Knife and use it as a primary weapon rather than as a secondary weapon. That's my play style. Using an AUR variant doesn't change my play style.
Yes It is still there 'picking your own playing style' , it just others make it hard for each other. I'm am not confusing it with Aur items. If a play wish to only used AUR gear to play this game then it a playing style. Your point make no sense to me right now.
Not everyone here agree with me about price, but not everyone agrees with you on that same token.
Do you have to point that out, do I look oblivious to that fact.
Looks like we're trapped in an endless back-n-forth discussion here.
Also, $1,000 into Dust? What? I invested only like $100 into this game.
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
4871
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Posted - 2013.11.01 20:49:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Overall, this discussion will one day become a moot point once the secondary market arrives and once players are given the power to control the market directly and sell anything (including AUR items) to each other for whatever ISK price they agree to. This way, if your lack real-world money, but have plenty of ISK to spend, then you'll be able to purchase AUR items with ISK from another player... assuming you agree to the other player's price.
Reposting
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
4871
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Posted - 2013.11.01 20:57:00 -
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Aqua-Regia wrote:That is why I don't think most will feel or see my point of view of the Aur market because the majority spent less than 300$ on this game.
Such wise people.
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
4871
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Posted - 2013.11.01 21:03:00 -
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Aqua-Regia wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Overall, this discussion will one day become a moot point once the secondary market arrives and once players are given the power to control the market directly and sell anything (including AUR items) to each other for whatever ISK price they agree to. This way, if your lack real-world money, but have plenty of ISK to spend, then you'll be able to purchase AUR items with ISK from another player... assuming you agree to the other player's price. Reposting It may be like this in eve, I don't seeing this happen in Dust. only time will tell.
Um... CCP confirmed this...
Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=40zjfBk5vEE#t=1830
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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