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OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 1020	Posted - 2013.11.01 09:29:00 - [1] - Quote So in 1.7 it's gonna have a 6 m scan bonus= cool Will it run range mods= probably never Min scout vs med frame: Min scout with range an profile dampener= still picked up on 15 db scanner , still slower than med frame Min scout with speed an cardiac= still spotted by 28 db scan med frame with range mod an speed has upper hand Min scout vs gallente scout = gallente range/ better ,speed / better/ ability for armor regen , dampening, range and cardiac an speed an more HP and CPU pg Gallente vs min scout racial bonuses: Gallente has a huge buff to scan now with no mods at all, plus it can do all of the things listed above, but the min is full of catch 22 problems. The minmatars bonuses require it to be fast, but it's blind, it needs stealth to use its bonuses but it can easily be seen, if it try's to see with range mods an be dampened it is slow an cannot get away. It now loses its equipment to a scanner. When do mins punch? It's not a reasonable bonus when the base melee damage is way to low. This melee bonus is void, it is not constantly used like all other suit bonuses, an although we all love the knife bonus to damage an deffinetly want to keep it but not everyone uses knives. I purpose minmatar scout bonuses become: 5% to nova knife or shotgun damage an a 3% reduction to biotic mods per level Our suits have 170 base hp an a proto with biotic mods an armor an shield up grades to level 5 has a max 343 armor with 3 complex shields an 90 armor, 270 shields if a damage mod is used. Shotgun proficiency is rof not damage, too many times do these scouts have to shoot too many times to beat a ar user it snuck up on only to die from hit detection an damage modded rifles. The sg on this scout should inflict damage just as fast at a 4 foot distance, not need four shots to someone's back. Let the lions feast. =ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ=ƒöÑ SUPER FORUM SAIYAN 3 KaaaamEeeHHAAAAMmmMAHHHAAAAAHH!
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 1021	Posted - 2013.11.01 18:53:00 - [2] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Stop bitching about the 15 db scanner. It is meant to pick up scouts and uses 16 PG. Working as intended. Not bitchen, it's a fact, personally it doesn't matter, I foreseen the problem an skilled two other suits that can beat it if nessecary , but it was needed as a point in the pitch
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 1021	Posted - 2013.11.01 18:56:00 - [3] - Quote Brokerib wrote: PG/CPU % reduction for modules might be a good replacement for the current nova knife bonus. That way knifers can stack up on damage mods if they still want to get stabby, and we can fit a higher number of proto mods to make up for the poor distribution of slots. Agree that being completely unscannable is too much. If someone wants to spend that many skill points to find me, then fair enough. There should always be a counter. The gallente is unscannable if needed an so is a 4 low slot med frame so I don't see your point, it's the melee bonus that needs work keep the knife bonus
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 1023	Posted - 2013.11.02 02:00:00 - [4] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: If the suit bonuses were attached to the suit rather than the skill, we could avoid a lot of these problems (and probably create new problems) If you could purchase a Scout suits all have the stealth bonus, but if variations on faction suits existed with different bonusesGÇª Using the Min as an example Skill it Min lights to get Min Scout s is, but the bonus is the scout bonus Different Min scout suits with different bonuses available on the market place would give you more options. Basic Min scout 5% to NK Advanced 15% to NK Proto 25% to NK or you could buy the Hacker Suit that has a bonus to hacking Basic Min Scout Hack suit 5% Hack speed Advanced 15% Hack speed Proto 25% Hack speed So type bonus (scout still applies) and then the suit has a purpose bonus built in in the market. the same could apply to all suits beyond the light/medium/heavy basic variants. thoughts? make sense? This a dope idea Speed suit Damage suit Range suit Endurance suit Yada ma yada
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 1023	Posted - 2013.11.02 02:06:00 - [5] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: I think that taking away the nova knife damage would upset a lot of knifer scouts, and assuming that then there isn't much wiggle room to enhance the suit with respect to bonuses if that, as well as the dampening bonus, stays. Perhaps replacing the melee bonus with something else such as a passive armor rep of 1 HP/level and a reduction to PG/CPU usage for biotic modules (maybe all low/high modules)? A speed bonus would be nice, but given the current speeds of scouts I thought that we were basically toned down speed wise so that CCP could improve the frame rate, rendering and hit detection issues fast speeds cause. I definitely think the melee damage bonus is whack and the Min needs some more versatility in general..... Yea no way does anyone wanna lose the knive bonus, just trade the melee for 3% speed or endurance per level or a +1 armor passive like all the min suits. Melee is useless bonus since base melee is so low. Even if it was a 15% endurance bonus that would be awesome so you could jump an run longer with two reds on

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