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Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 733	Posted - 2013.10.31 07:17:00 - [1] - Quote I'm thinking of branching out to... something else than Minlogi and naturally Min assault came to mind since it won't eat so much SP to start whole new tree from the beginning. But the benefit of going Min assault seem negligible. Quote: Assault Suit Bonus: +5% to dropsuit shield recharge rate per level Minmatar Assault Bonus: +5% to sidearm weaponry clip size per level Minmatar are slightly faster than other assault suits and at proto-level they have 5 high slots. (woo hoo) Looking at the numbers, it's slightly disappointing. It seems I can't fit anything sensible at advanced level. Try to max out the speed advantage? Yeah good luck with that. Max out shields? Meh. It seems Caldari assault is easily best for slaying with its shield recharge rate. Minnie Assault users, care to share your experiences?
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3466	Posted - 2013.10.31 07:19:00 - [2] - Quote dat 100 bullets per SMG clip Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 798	Posted - 2013.10.31 07:21:00 - [3] - Quote I would not mind that suit as AV, i often tend to run out of ammo on my sidearm since my swarms are primary weapon... For the Empire!
Tech De Ra Electronic Sports League 71	Posted - 2013.10.31 07:25:00 - [4] - Quote Forego hp, Stack 3 sidearm damage mods. slap on 2 proto sidearms and give pain out like candy at halloween Tech De Ra // Electronic Sports League Games Co-ordinator
Chad Michael Murray NECROM0NGERS 126	Posted - 2013.10.31 07:31:00 - [5] - Quote Dual sidearms (generally smgs) is never a bad thing with the suit though once you have SMGs leveled up all nice. Mini Assault make some pretty good snipers and/or AV because of the sidearm bonus doe~
IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 225	Posted - 2013.10.31 07:40:00 - [6] - Quote There was a time that flay locks made that bonus seem interesting, I'm not as sure the trade offs mentioned are worth it now.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3467	Posted - 2013.10.31 07:41:00 - [7] - Quote Also just because it's called a sidearm doesn't mean it is necessarily worse. Whenever I run my assault with scrambler rifle and scrambler pistol, often times I find myself using the pistol most the match. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 733	Posted - 2013.10.31 07:44:00 - [8] - Quote So the Min assault is sort of scout with steroids then. I have seen the might of SMGs so slapping them on the suit, coupled with speed bonus and sidearm clip bonus would indeed make it formidable.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3467	Posted - 2013.10.31 07:49:00 - [9] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: So the Min assault is sort of scout with steroids then. I have seen the might of SMGs so slapping them on the suit, coupled with speed bonus and sidearm clip bonus would indeed make it formidable. Nice thing about 5 highs is you could shield tank and stack damage mods. I don't run Minmatar gear, but if I did I'd probably use 3 shield extenders and 2 complex sidearm damage mods. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Cosgar ParagonX 6922	Posted - 2013.10.31 07:50:00 - [10] - Quote Ishukone SMG, TT-3 Assault ScP, complex light damage mod (until you get prof 3 in bothe sidearms) and you'll know why it's one of the best assaults in the game. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"

ReGnYuM MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1214	Posted - 2013.10.31 07:54:00 - [11] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Ishukone SMG, TT-3 Assault ScP, complex light damage mod (until you get prof 3 in bothe sidearms) and you'll know why it's one of the best assaults in the game. I hardly rank it one of the best lol, and if you're skilling it solely for sidearm bonus then you're ******** If you never heard of ReGnYuM, you're neither Good or Relevant in Dust 514. KDR > EVERYTHING
Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1661	Posted - 2013.10.31 07:54:00 - [12] - Quote Minmatar Assault is one of the best suits for flankers and skirmishers. You are faster than anyone else (but scouts, of course) and this means that no one is going to catch you if you keep your distances from the chokepoints. It also means that you might want to shield tank like a boss, because you don't actually need kin cats and cardiac regulators, so you may put 2 enhanced shield regulators to get all you can from your 5 high slots (shield modules). Once again, if you're playing this role (flanker/skirmisher) and you're using a tactical weapon (Scrambler, Tac AR, Laser, etc) the racial bonus is pure gold, as you can unleash your SMG and drop 3 people with a single clip. I went Caldari mainly because I didn't want to look like an ugly ass, lol (Minmatar medium frames look cool for men, but... ugh... not really for women). And I wanted to stay loyal to my race. With a Caldari suit I generally rather brick-tanking, because I don't have enough PG and CPU to speed tank on my low slots. So whenever I get caught, I can't run that fast, but at least I have enough HP to survive a direct fight. Conclusion: IMO Minnie Assault is a good suit. It migh not be the best for run and gun HP tanking playstyles, though. -Caldari Achura - One with the Universe -Tac AR Specialist "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
ReGnYuM MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1215	Posted - 2013.10.31 07:59:00 - [13] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: I'm thinking of branching out to... something else than Minlogi and naturally Min assault came to mind since it won't eat so much SP to start whole new tree from the beginning. But the benefit of going Min assault seem negligible. Quote: Assault Suit Bonus: +5% to dropsuit shield recharge rate per level Minmatar Assault Bonus: +5% to sidearm weaponry clip size per level Minmatar are slightly faster than other assault suits and at proto-level they have 5 high slots. (woo hoo) Looking at the numbers, it's slightly disappointing. It seems I can't fit anything sensible at advanced level. Try to max out the speed advantage? Yeah good luck with that. Max out shields? Meh. It seems Caldari assault is easily best for slaying with its shield recharge rate. Minnie Assault users, care to share your experiences? Min Ass effectiveness is really based on ones play style For some it can be an unstoppable 1v1 machine, and others, a very expensive walking coffin. Here are some questions for you: 1. Do you shield tank 2. What is general play style 3. Are you aggressive or passive 4. What is your primary If you never heard of ReGnYuM, you're neither Good or Relevant in Dust 514. KDR > EVERYTHING
Cosgar ParagonX 6926	Posted - 2013.10.31 08:05:00 - [14] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Cosgar wrote: Ishukone SMG, TT-3 Assault ScP, complex light damage mod (until you get prof 3 in bothe sidearms) and you'll know why it's one of the best assaults in the game. I hardly rank it one of the best lol, and if you're skilling it solely for sidearm bonus then you're ******** Matter of personal preference. The extra movement speed gives you interesting fitting choices compared to the other assaults and it makes sidearms more fun. Once we get the other sidearms, it'll only get better. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 316	Posted - 2013.10.31 08:14:00 - [15] - Quote anything shield related the caldari can do better with less,i go with shield tank,daamage and stamina(as complex speed mods eat up way too much PG marit using them)
Ulme Mees Eesti Leegion 27	Posted - 2013.10.31 08:36:00 - [16] - Quote I got MIN Assault on advanced level and so far the best I did with was: 3 complex shield extenders Ishukone SMG + standard MD (MD as a sidearm) 1 basic armor plate in lows + cpu enchanter. Scanner in equipent slot and a grenade eiter locus or better yet a flux if u can fit it. That set gave me like 400 shields and 260 armor. Start off with a SMG tickling their shields away and when they are in your optimal release the hell from MD. Fear is a disease!
Zatara Rought MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1456	Posted - 2013.10.31 08:41:00 - [17] - Quote I you can shoot a pistol the mini assault is worth it. If you put 2 basic plates on a min assault you're still slightly faster than a caldari assault, have a 1 rep/s repair rate, and I want to say have more cpu than the caldari. CCP has 2 sides of the brain. Problem is there's nothing right in the left brain and nothing left in the right brain.
Ulme Mees Eesti Leegion 28	Posted - 2013.10.31 08:48:00 - [18] - Quote But! If you wanna save money and still be evil minmatar assault you could use the cheaper fit. 3 Complex extenders M519 SMG? MD 2 basic plates locus nade scanner 400 shields and 360 armor and 33K ISK Fear is a disease!
ReGnYuM MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1218	Posted - 2013.10.31 08:51:00 - [19] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: I you can shoot a pistol the mini assault is worth it. If you put 2 basic plates on a min assault you're still slightly faster than a caldari assault, have a 1 rep/s repair rate, and I want to say have more cpu than the caldari. 3 complex shield extenders 2 complex damage mods 2 basic armor plates proto weapon proto sidearm basic flux nade w.e equip you can fit. If you never heard of ReGnYuM, you're neither Good or Relevant in Dust 514. KDR > EVERYTHING
Zatara Rought MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1456	Posted - 2013.10.31 08:52:00 - [20] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: I you can shoot a pistol the mini assault is worth it. If you put 2 basic plates on a min assault you're still slightly faster than a caldari assault, have a 1 rep/s repair rate, and I want to say have more cpu than the caldari. 3 complex shield extenders 2 complex damage mods 2 basic armor plates proto weapon proto sidearm basic flux nade w.e equip you can fit. Disagree? I run it on my alt XD CCP has 2 sides of the brain. Problem is there's nothing right in the left brain and nothing left in the right brain.

Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1713	Posted - 2013.10.31 08:53:00 - [21] - Quote Yea might be interesting but I'm Caldari. When you say "assault dropsuits", I can only think of Caldari being the definitive.
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 733	Posted - 2013.10.31 08:57:00 - [22] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: I you can shoot a pistol the mini assault is worth it. If you put 2 basic plates on a min assault you're still slightly faster than a caldari assault, have a 1 rep/s repair rate, and I want to say have more cpu than the caldari. 3 complex shield extenders 2 complex damage mods 2 basic armor plates proto weapon proto sidearm basic flux nade w.e equip you can fit. Disagree? I run it on my alt XD How? Using the fitting tool (which might be outdated), the CPU just isn't enough.
Cosgar ParagonX 6933	Posted - 2013.10.31 08:57:00 - [23] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Yea might be interesting but I'm Caldari. When you say "assault dropsuits", I can only think of Caldari being the definitive. That's because for a while, Caldari was the only assault. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Zatara Rought MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1456	Posted - 2013.10.31 08:58:00 - [24] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: How? Using the fitting tool (which might be outdated), the CPU just isn't enough. I'm assuming you maxed out innates? Do you have the link to the tool? CCP has 2 sides of the brain. Problem is there's nothing right in the left brain and nothing left in the right brain.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 1576	Posted - 2013.10.31 09:03:00 - [25] - Quote Success with the min assault comes from use of cover, flanking, and rushing. If you like cqc then min assault is for you. Check out & sub my youtube. Yay!
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 733	Posted - 2013.10.31 09:04:00 - [26] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Repe Susi wrote: How? Using the fitting tool (which might be outdated), the CPU just isn't enough. I'm assuming you maxed out innates? Do you have the link to the tool? Fitting tool I tried it with pistols (as you mentioned) and it still does not fit even with all skills at 5, so you have to have it wrong...
Cosgar ParagonX 6934	Posted - 2013.10.31 09:09:00 - [27] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Success with the min assault comes from use of cover, flanking, and rushing. If you like cqc then min assault is for you. ^This man speaks the truth and has (entertaining) video evidence. Mind sharing your fit? I figured out everything except for the high slots. Is that a damage mod or a recharger in one of your high slots? I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Zatara Rought MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1456	Posted - 2013.10.31 09:11:00 - [28] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Repe Susi wrote: How? Using the fitting tool (which might be outdated), the CPU just isn't enough. I'm assuming you maxed out innates? Do you have the link to the tool? Fitting tool I tried it with pistols (as you mentioned) and it still does not fit even with all skills at 5, so you have to have it wrong... Sincerest apologies. I'll check my noobposting at the door next time and pull out my ps3. CCP has 2 sides of the brain. Problem is there's nothing right in the left brain and nothing left in the right brain.
Brokerib Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 16	Posted - 2013.10.31 09:38:00 - [29] - Quote As many have mentioned, play the mini assault as like a heavy scout and it's a winner. I normally fit a profile dampener in a low slot and armor plates to complement the inbuilt repair. Mix up between shield and damage mods in high and then you've got an excellent skirmisher and flanker. Hit and run, give your shields a chance to recharge before engaging, and make sure you don't come from the same direction twice. And with the sidearm bonus the scrambler pistol is a great weapon.
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 114	Posted - 2013.10.31 09:43:00 - [30] - Quote I think most of the above posters mentioned it already - but yes, if you have a dual SMG build, you can really crank out some crazy DPS. :)



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