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Night 5talker 514
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.30 12:48:00 -
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Hey guys,
I have been playing DUST since Beta and even then I was wondering... If we are in the future and have these amazing advanced suits/weaponry, why can't we lie down, peer around a corner, hang on to a ledge, climb an obsticle, scramble up a hill (rather than being defeated by it) etc. I'm not saying implement this straight away. I too would rather have all the dropsuits, weapons and wehicles for all races done, finshed and balanced first. However, I feel little things like this would be interesting and make gameplay more interesting.
How this could work is similar to hacking for example. Imagine you are shooting on a ledge and step back too far (slowly) you fall, but you manage to grab onto the ledge (press O to grab, you have to be quick) then have to bash O (for example) to climb back up. The longer you hang there the more your stamina drains. Stamina could also be used up to climb back up etc. If someone comes close you could try pull them off the ledge etc. There is a lot you could do with a simple thing like this.
On a side note, perhaps crouching, laying on the floor etc. could impact your sig radius? Just a thought.
A different request to the usual heavy weapons, dropsuits, vehicles etc. but one with potential merrit.
Let me know what you guys think. |
Night 5talker 514
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
26
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Posted - 2013.10.31 04:53:00 -
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Just me? : ) |
Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1129
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Posted - 2013.10.31 06:42:00 -
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They weigh to much you'd never be able to get back up |
m twiggz
Eternal Beings
125
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Posted - 2013.10.31 06:45:00 -
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Night 5talker 514 wrote:Hey guys,
I have been playing DUST since Beta and even then I was wondering... If we are in the future and have these amazing advanced suits/weaponry, why can't we lie down, peer around a corner, hang on to a ledge, climb an obsticle, scramble up a hill (rather than being defeated by it) etc. I'm not saying implement this straight away. I too would rather have all the dropsuits, weapons and wehicles for all races done, finshed and balanced first. However, I feel little things like this would be interesting and make gameplay more interesting.
How this could work is similar to hacking for example. Imagine you are shooting on a ledge and step back too far (slowly) you fall, but you manage to grab onto the ledge (press O to grab, you have to be quick) then have to bash O (for example) to climb back up. The longer you hang there the more your stamina drains. Stamina could also be used up to climb back up etc. If someone comes close you could try pull them off the ledge etc. There is a lot you could do with a simple thing like this.
On a side note, perhaps crouching, laying on the floor etc. could impact your sig radius? Just a thought.
A different request to the usual heavy weapons, dropsuits, vehicles etc. but one with potential merrit.
Let me know what you guys think. Definitely on board with these ideas. My futuristic space clone should be able to accomplish ALL. But seriously, why can't I run up a mountain? |
Night 5talker 514
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
28
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Posted - 2013.10.31 07:54:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:They weigh to much you'd never be able to get back up
So if something like this (see link below) couldn't pick itself up from it's own weight then I would agree... but I imagine it could pick itself up considering it would be used to move crazy heavy objects. Plus, it's the future so I imagine such suits would make the below exo skeleton look weak.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hkCcoenLW4 |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1663
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Posted - 2013.10.31 08:02:00 -
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I know you. I like your Scrambler skills.
Anyway, I support this, I just think you're making a really complex design, lol. It might takes a lifetime to implement these new mechanics.
-Caldari Achura - One with the Universe
-Tac AR Specialist
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Night 5talker 514
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
28
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Posted - 2013.10.31 15:20:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:I know you. I like your Scrambler skills.
Anyway, I support this, I just think you're making a really complex design, lol. It might take a lifetime to implement these new mechanics.
Have I killed you previously? ; ) |
Nitrobeacon
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
78
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Posted - 2013.10.31 15:40:00 -
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Yes I agree we should be able to do anything, I'd like to shoot from a dropship but no. I'd like to climb a hill but no.
Keri Starlight wrote:I know you. I like your Scrambler skills.
Anyway, I support this, I just think you're making a really complex design, lol. It might take a lifetime to implement these new mechanics. Yes I agree Night is dangerous with it, he'd win a 1v1 against anyone. Hell he'd use a laser and 1v1 an AR user. |
Jax Saurian
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
113
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Posted - 2013.10.31 17:25:00 -
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Night 5talker 514 wrote:Hey guys,
lie down, peer around a corner, hang on to a ledge, climb an obsticle, scramble up a hill (rather than being defeated by it) On a side note, perhaps crouching, laying on the floor etc. could impact your sig radius? Just a thought.
yes no probably not yes umm not sure what you mean no
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Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1686
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Posted - 2013.10.31 23:20:00 -
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Night 5talker 514 wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:I know you. I like your Scrambler skills.
Anyway, I support this, I just think you're making a really complex design, lol. It might take a lifetime to implement these new mechanics. Have I killed you previously? ; )
Not yet, and I haven't killed you neither. We are generally in the same team. I observed you, though, and you kick major butts.
The only time we were enemies you had really bad luck, you were the only good player in a full team of nooby blueberries and you survived the entire match standing on a high building with a Laser Rfile. You still went 7-0, I tried to drop you with my Tac AR but it was just a waste of my time and efforts.
-Caldari Achura - One with the Universe
-Tac AR Specialist
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1686
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Posted - 2013.10.31 23:29:00 -
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Nitrobeacon wrote: Yes I agree Night is dangerous with it, he'd win a 1v1 against anyone. Hell he'd use a laser and 1v1 an AR user.
Yup, he's good. I would like to see him with other Top Scrambler users (such as Tiberius and Rei Shepard) and see who gets the most kills.
-Caldari Achura - One with the Universe
-Tac AR Specialist
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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MRBH1997
Knights Of Ender Public Disorder.
21
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Posted - 2013.11.01 21:05:00 -
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I wouldn't mind having the mobility of being able to vault over objects but that'll take time due to coding that. But I'd love to be able to lie down and gain that advantage while sniping or shooting under objects. Would give snipers an edge when trying to stay hidden and would give infantry an edge on attacking from certain vantage points. |
Night 5talker 514
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
35
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Posted - 2013.11.03 13:56:00 -
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MRBH1997 wrote:I wouldn't mind having the mobility of being able to vault over objects but that'll take time due to coding that. But I'd love to be able to lie down and gain that advantage while sniping or shooting under objects. Would give snipers an edge when trying to stay hidden and would give infantry an edge on attacking from certain vantage points.
I agree, infact when I first started playing I did sniping, and was puzzled as to why I simply couldn't lie down haha, one day maybe. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
1383
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Posted - 2013.11.03 13:59:00 -
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If anything we should at least be able to go prone, that's probably one game mechanic that should have been added during closed beta.
+1 OP couldn't agree more
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Night 5talker 514
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
36
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Posted - 2013.11.04 07:54:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:If anything we should at least be able to go prone, that's probably one game mechanic that should have been added during closed beta.
+1 OP couldn't agree more
Thanks Fire, much appriciated :) |
Night 5talker 514
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
37
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:33:00 -
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Imagine a scout hanging off a ledge unseen by other people's suit scans then dropping down and Nova Knifing them, could be epic trolling |
Snaps Tremor
DUST University Ivy League
331
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:38:00 -
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Wrong engine bro :( |
Maffia- Thug
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
74
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:17:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:If anything we should at least be able to go prone, that's probably one game mechanic that should have been added during closed beta.
+1 OP couldn't agree more
Out of curiosity, has then been addressed anywhere? A yes, a no, a maybe? Anything? If not then I think we as the players should push really hard for this. This is a great feature and one of the most standard positions of any shooter in real life or gaming.
If this has not been addressed by any dev then I vote we push hard for it. It could honestly change the game in some aspects. |
Talos Vagheitan
136
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:37:00 -
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Not terrible ideas, but not necessarily that kind of game either.
Besides, there's a ton that still needs to be done first, before worry about hanging on ledges etc...
The one thing I would like to see however is a vault option over waist height obstacles!
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Ku Shala
Exiled Veteran Elite
644
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Posted - 2013.11.05 19:52:00 -
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or at least not getting stuck on mini ledges |
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Meeko Fent
Expert Intervention Caldari State
1394
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Posted - 2013.11.05 21:34:00 -
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Vaulting? Yes Crouching reducing scan profile? Yes Lying down? Nah. It takes a fair bit of bullets to kill, and crouching already makes it difficult enough to kill, and lying down would make it nigh impossible to kill.
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Night 5talker 514
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
39
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Posted - 2013.11.06 06:21:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Vaulting? Yes Crouching reducing scan profile? Yes Lying down? Nah. It takes a fair bit of bullets to kill, and crouching already makes it difficult enough to kill, and lying down would make it nigh impossible to kill.
However, with the recent improvements/fixes to hit detection it may not be as hard. Also, it would reward those with a good shot. |
Night 5talker 514
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
40
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Posted - 2013.11.07 07:53:00 -
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I agree that I'd prefer to wait for other aspects of the game to be sorted first, however, I think at some point this should happen. |
zibathy numbertwo
Nox Aeterna Security
255
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Posted - 2013.11.07 07:58:00 -
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If you lay down, I think it should require 1 second as a light, 2 as a medium, and 3 as a heavy. I never want to see dropshots become a thing in this game. I think if you're going to lay down to snipe people, you should be able to lazily take your time setting up your shot, so taking a while to get down shouldn't be too bad.
PS you can't be laying down and get into a vehicle, you should need to be standing. I can tell for sure I'd snipe under an LAV and if I get shot I'd just aim at the wheels and teleport inside and never die.
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Night 5talker 514
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
40
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Posted - 2013.11.07 08:04:00 -
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zibathy numbertwo wrote:If you lay down, I think it should require 1 second as a light, 2 as a medium, and 3 as a heavy. I never want to see dropshots become a thing in this game. I think if you're going to lay down to snipe people, you should be able to lazily take your time setting up your shot, so taking a while to get down shouldn't be too bad.
PS you can't be laying down and get into a vehicle, you should need to be standing. I can tell for sure I'd snipe under an LAV and if I get shot I'd just aim at the wheels and teleport inside and never die.
I like the idea, perhaps a skill that reduces time to get up and down. I completely agree with the vehicle aspect. |
Night 5talker 514
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
40
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Posted - 2013.11.08 09:35:00 -
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some nice suggestions so far, keep 'em coming |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
667
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:40:00 -
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I like the ability to lay down (with a suitable delay as posted above, and restriction to vehicle entry).
And definitely vaulting and hanging. I think this could be that kind of game, and I think that it should be. Given we are wearing a futuristic dropsuit that we can jump out of the MCC with; the light frames should be able to get a way with some of this stuff easily.
And why do I need to be over a certain height to activate my dampeners? This should be based on how quickly I can hit the correct button!
I'm not sure how I feel on the signature profile reduction, I wouldn't mind it I guess.
I definitely agree this should all be back-burner stuff after core game mechanics, graphics, performance and content is deployed and balanced reasonably well.
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Ku Shala
Exiled Veteran Elite
650
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Posted - 2013.11.08 17:24:00 -
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lose ladders and just have an equipment module that lets you grapple any surfaceand have movement speed effect you grapple speed ie. scouts climb faster.
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Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2208
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:23:00 -
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I really would love to see a vaulting mechanic. Sprinting to then jump to clear an 1 to 2 foot high ledge is more then annoying.
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xp3ll3d dust
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
98
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:49:00 -
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No laying down / going prone. Snipers already sit up high and are untouchable, there is no need to give them an "extra edge". |
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