DUST Search - [REQUEST] A different kind of request...

Night 5talker 514 wrote:

Hey guys,

I have been playing DUST since Beta and even then I was wondering... If we are in the future and have these amazing advanced suits/weaponry, why can't we lie down, peer around a corner, hang on to a ledge, climb an obsticle, scramble up a hill (rather than being defeated by it) etc. I'm not saying implement this straight away. I too would rather have all the dropsuits, weapons and wehicles for all races done, finshed and balanced first. However, I feel little things like this would be interesting and make gameplay more interesting.

How this could work is similar to hacking for example. Imagine you are shooting on a ledge and step back too far (slowly) you fall, but you manage to grab onto the ledge (press O to grab, you have to be quick) then have to bash O (for example) to climb back up. The longer you hang there the more your stamina drains. Stamina could also be used up to climb back up etc. If someone comes close you could try pull them off the ledge etc. There is a lot you could do with a simple thing like this.

On a side note, perhaps crouching, laying on the floor etc. could impact your sig radius? Just a thought.

A different request to the usual heavy weapons, dropsuits, vehicles etc. but one with potential merrit.

Let me know what you guys think.

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Night 5talker 514 Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 24	Posted - 2013.10.30 12:48:00 - [1] - Quote Hey guys, I have been playing DUST since Beta and even then I was wondering... If we are in the future and have these amazing advanced suits/weaponry, why can't we lie down, peer around a corner, hang on to a ledge, climb an obsticle, scramble up a hill (rather than being defeated by it) etc. I'm not saying implement this straight away. I too would rather have all the dropsuits, weapons and wehicles for all races done, finshed and balanced first. However, I feel little things like this would be interesting and make gameplay more interesting. How this could work is similar to hacking for example. Imagine you are shooting on a ledge and step back too far (slowly) you fall, but you manage to grab onto the ledge (press O to grab, you have to be quick) then have to bash O (for example) to climb back up. The longer you hang there the more your stamina drains. Stamina could also be used up to climb back up etc. If someone comes close you could try pull them off the ledge etc. There is a lot you could do with a simple thing like this. On a side note, perhaps crouching, laying on the floor etc. could impact your sig radius? Just a thought. A different request to the usual heavy weapons, dropsuits, vehicles etc. but one with potential merrit. Let me know what you guys think.
Night 5talker 514 Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 26	Posted - 2013.10.31 04:53:00 - [2] - Quote Just me? : )
Heimdallr69 Imperfect Bastards 1129	Posted - 2013.10.31 06:42:00 - [3] - Quote They weigh to much you'd never be able to get back up
m twiggz Eternal Beings 125	Posted - 2013.10.31 06:45:00 - [4] - Quote Night 5talker 514 wrote: Hey guys, I have been playing DUST since Beta and even then I was wondering... If we are in the future and have these amazing advanced suits/weaponry, why can't we lie down, peer around a corner, hang on to a ledge, climb an obsticle, scramble up a hill (rather than being defeated by it) etc. I'm not saying implement this straight away. I too would rather have all the dropsuits, weapons and wehicles for all races done, finshed and balanced first. However, I feel little things like this would be interesting and make gameplay more interesting. How this could work is similar to hacking for example. Imagine you are shooting on a ledge and step back too far (slowly) you fall, but you manage to grab onto the ledge (press O to grab, you have to be quick) then have to bash O (for example) to climb back up. The longer you hang there the more your stamina drains. Stamina could also be used up to climb back up etc. If someone comes close you could try pull them off the ledge etc. There is a lot you could do with a simple thing like this. On a side note, perhaps crouching, laying on the floor etc. could impact your sig radius? Just a thought. A different request to the usual heavy weapons, dropsuits, vehicles etc. but one with potential merrit. Let me know what you guys think. Definitely on board with these ideas. My futuristic space clone should be able to accomplish ALL. But seriously, why can't I run up a mountain?
Night 5talker 514 Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 28	Posted - 2013.10.31 07:54:00 - [5] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: They weigh to much you'd never be able to get back up So if something like this (see link below) couldn't pick itself up from it's own weight then I would agree... but I imagine it could pick itself up considering it would be used to move crazy heavy objects. Plus, it's the future so I imagine such suits would make the below exo skeleton look weak. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hkCcoenLW4
Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1663	Posted - 2013.10.31 08:02:00 - [6] - Quote I know you. I like your Scrambler skills. Anyway, I support this, I just think you're making a really complex design, lol. It might takes a lifetime to implement these new mechanics. -Caldari Achura - One with the Universe -Tac AR Specialist "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
Night 5talker 514 Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 28	Posted - 2013.10.31 15:20:00 - [7] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: I know you. I like your Scrambler skills. Anyway, I support this, I just think you're making a really complex design, lol. It might take a lifetime to implement these new mechanics. Have I killed you previously? ; )
Nitrobeacon Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 78	Posted - 2013.10.31 15:40:00 - [8] - Quote Yes I agree we should be able to do anything, I'd like to shoot from a dropship but no. I'd like to climb a hill but no. Keri Starlight wrote: I know you. I like your Scrambler skills. Anyway, I support this, I just think you're making a really complex design, lol. It might take a lifetime to implement these new mechanics. Yes I agree Night is dangerous with it, he'd win a 1v1 against anyone. Hell he'd use a laser and 1v1 an AR user.
Jax Saurian GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 113	Posted - 2013.10.31 17:25:00 - [9] - Quote Night 5talker 514 wrote: Hey guys, lie down, peer around a corner, hang on to a ledge, climb an obsticle, scramble up a hill (rather than being defeated by it) On a side note, perhaps crouching, laying on the floor etc. could impact your sig radius? Just a thought. yes no probably not yes umm not sure what you mean no "and when they catch you, they will kill you... ...but first they must catch you" motto of the scouts
Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1686	Posted - 2013.10.31 23:20:00 - [10] - Quote Night 5talker 514 wrote: Keri Starlight wrote: I know you. I like your Scrambler skills. Anyway, I support this, I just think you're making a really complex design, lol. It might take a lifetime to implement these new mechanics. Have I killed you previously? ; ) Not yet, and I haven't killed you neither. We are generally in the same team. I observed you, though, and you kick major butts. The only time we were enemies you had really bad luck, you were the only good player in a full team of nooby blueberries and you survived the entire match standing on a high building with a Laser Rfile. You still went 7-0, I tried to drop you with my Tac AR but it was just a waste of my time and efforts. -Caldari Achura - One with the Universe -Tac AR Specialist "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"

Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1686	Posted - 2013.10.31 23:29:00 - [11] - Quote Nitrobeacon wrote: Yes I agree Night is dangerous with it, he'd win a 1v1 against anyone. Hell he'd use a laser and 1v1 an AR user. Yup, he's good. I would like to see him with other Top Scrambler users (such as Tiberius and Rei Shepard) and see who gets the most kills. -Caldari Achura - One with the Universe -Tac AR Specialist "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
MRBH1997 Knights Of Ender Public Disorder. 21	Posted - 2013.11.01 21:05:00 - [12] - Quote I wouldn't mind having the mobility of being able to vault over objects but that'll take time due to coding that. But I'd love to be able to lie down and gain that advantage while sniping or shooting under objects. Would give snipers an edge when trying to stay hidden and would give infantry an edge on attacking from certain vantage points.
Night 5talker 514 Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 35	Posted - 2013.11.03 13:56:00 - [13] - Quote MRBH1997 wrote: I wouldn't mind having the mobility of being able to vault over objects but that'll take time due to coding that. But I'd love to be able to lie down and gain that advantage while sniping or shooting under objects. Would give snipers an edge when trying to stay hidden and would give infantry an edge on attacking from certain vantage points. I agree, infact when I first started playing I did sniping, and was puzzled as to why I simply couldn't lie down haha, one day maybe.
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1383	Posted - 2013.11.03 13:59:00 - [14] - Quote If anything we should at least be able to go prone, that's probably one game mechanic that should have been added during closed beta. +1 OP couldn't agree more _(* *)> 194th <( . )> <--it's a penguin ~'''~'''~
Night 5talker 514 Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 36	Posted - 2013.11.04 07:54:00 - [15] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: If anything we should at least be able to go prone, that's probably one game mechanic that should have been added during closed beta. +1 OP couldn't agree more Thanks Fire, much appriciated :)
Night 5talker 514 Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 37	Posted - 2013.11.05 10:33:00 - [16] - Quote Imagine a scout hanging off a ledge unseen by other people's suit scans then dropping down and Nova Knifing them, could be epic trolling
Snaps Tremor DUST University Ivy League 331	Posted - 2013.11.05 10:38:00 - [17] - Quote Wrong engine bro :(
Maffia- Thug 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 74	Posted - 2013.11.05 17:17:00 - [18] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: If anything we should at least be able to go prone, that's probably one game mechanic that should have been added during closed beta. +1 OP couldn't agree more Out of curiosity, has then been addressed anywhere? A yes, a no, a maybe? Anything? If not then I think we as the players should push really hard for this. This is a great feature and one of the most standard positions of any shooter in real life or gaming. If this has not been addressed by any dev then I vote we push hard for it. It could honestly change the game in some aspects.
Talos Vagheitan 136	Posted - 2013.11.05 17:37:00 - [19] - Quote Not terrible ideas, but not necessarily that kind of game either. Besides, there's a ton that still needs to be done first, before worry about hanging on ledges etc... The one thing I would like to see however is a vault option over waist height obstacles! Welcome to the roughnecks.... RICO'S ROUGHNECKS!
Ku Shala Exiled Veteran Elite 644	Posted - 2013.11.05 19:52:00 - [20] - Quote or at least not getting stuck on mini ledges

Meeko Fent Expert Intervention Caldari State 1394	Posted - 2013.11.05 21:34:00 - [21] - Quote Vaulting? Yes Crouching reducing scan profile? Yes Lying down? Nah. It takes a fair bit of bullets to kill, and crouching already makes it difficult enough to kill, and lying down would make it nigh impossible to kill. Meeko's Novelty Shop Opening Soon! We (will)sell all the novelty items you desire! Really! King of Uncertainty.
Night 5talker 514 Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 39	Posted - 2013.11.06 06:21:00 - [22] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Vaulting? Yes Crouching reducing scan profile? Yes Lying down? Nah. It takes a fair bit of bullets to kill, and crouching already makes it difficult enough to kill, and lying down would make it nigh impossible to kill. However, with the recent improvements/fixes to hit detection it may not be as hard. Also, it would reward those with a good shot.
Night 5talker 514 Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 40	Posted - 2013.11.07 07:53:00 - [23] - Quote I agree that I'd prefer to wait for other aspects of the game to be sorted first, however, I think at some point this should happen.
zibathy numbertwo Nox Aeterna Security 255	Posted - 2013.11.07 07:58:00 - [24] - Quote If you lay down, I think it should require 1 second as a light, 2 as a medium, and 3 as a heavy. I never want to see dropshots become a thing in this game. I think if you're going to lay down to snipe people, you should be able to lazily take your time setting up your shot, so taking a while to get down shouldn't be too bad. PS you can't be laying down and get into a vehicle, you should need to be standing. I can tell for sure I'd snipe under an LAV and if I get shot I'd just aim at the wheels and teleport inside and never die. Long Live Freedom; Long Live the Federation.
Night 5talker 514 Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 40	Posted - 2013.11.07 08:04:00 - [25] - Quote zibathy numbertwo wrote: If you lay down, I think it should require 1 second as a light, 2 as a medium, and 3 as a heavy. I never want to see dropshots become a thing in this game. I think if you're going to lay down to snipe people, you should be able to lazily take your time setting up your shot, so taking a while to get down shouldn't be too bad. PS you can't be laying down and get into a vehicle, you should need to be standing. I can tell for sure I'd snipe under an LAV and if I get shot I'd just aim at the wheels and teleport inside and never die. I like the idea, perhaps a skill that reduces time to get up and down. I completely agree with the vehicle aspect.
Night 5talker 514 Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 40	Posted - 2013.11.08 09:35:00 - [26] - Quote some nice suggestions so far, keep 'em coming
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 667	Posted - 2013.11.08 12:40:00 - [27] - Quote I like the ability to lay down (with a suitable delay as posted above, and restriction to vehicle entry). And definitely vaulting and hanging. I think this could be that kind of game, and I think that it should be. Given we are wearing a futuristic dropsuit that we can jump out of the MCC with; the light frames should be able to get a way with some of this stuff easily. And why do I need to be over a certain height to activate my dampeners? This should be based on how quickly I can hit the correct button! I'm not sure how I feel on the signature profile reduction, I wouldn't mind it I guess. I definitely agree this should all be back-burner stuff after core game mechanics, graphics, performance and content is deployed and balanced reasonably well.
Ku Shala Exiled Veteran Elite 650	Posted - 2013.11.08 17:24:00 - [28] - Quote lose ladders and just have an equipment module that lets you grapple any surfaceand have movement speed effect you grapple speed ie. scouts climb faster. First General of Exiled Veteran Elite Loyalty Is not always rewarded Serving Caldari State
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2208	Posted - 2013.11.08 20:23:00 - [29] - Quote I really would love to see a vaulting mechanic. Sprinting to then jump to clear an 1 to 2 foot high ledge is more then annoying. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
xp3ll3d dust The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 98	Posted - 2013.11.08 20:49:00 - [30] - Quote No laying down / going prone. Snipers already sit up high and are untouchable, there is no need to give them an "extra edge".

Night 5talker 514 Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 47	Posted - 2013.11.14 11:13:00 - [31] - Quote still a good idea?
DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2560	Posted - 2013.11.14 12:01:00 - [32] - Quote Won't get any of this cool stuff until we go to the PS4. I am calling it right now. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Night 5talker 514 Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 47	Posted - 2013.11.22 10:20:00 - [33] - Quote Would be nice to have it at some point, but obviously other changes must come first


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