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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.30 03:49:00 -
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With KNs/SGs fixed and heavys increasing hp I fully expect the Heavy V Scout war to continue.
We have our respect for one another, we even support each other's causes from the midframe assault on our classes, but in the end we are counters to each other and we will have battle.
Good luck to all you Heavys come the fifth because this is going to be bloody and my blades are ready.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
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DeadlyAztec11
Gallente Federation
2332
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Posted - 2013.10.30 03:58:00 -
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Man, I can't even pick a side! Both are awesome!
"It's because of people like you that I became this. And you'll never give me a reason to become someone else."
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hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
440
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Posted - 2013.10.30 04:02:00 -
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Heavy is to bland and slow for me
Scout and Dropship 4 life!
"i weel shuut u een duh faise" - some Minnie scout
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
1009
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Posted - 2013.10.30 04:02:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Man, I can't even pick a side! Both are awesome! Pick the one in between like 99.99999999999999999999% of the player base (with an AR to be more precise).
Edit: I almost forgot the core locus nades
Please don't
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1119
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Posted - 2013.10.30 04:13:00 -
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It seems time to dust off the ol' Shotties, one last time. May even go for the GalLogi Scouted out.
But, I've been having fun and decent success with Heavies lately.
I am Jack's raging internal confliction.
Steve Guttenberg Lives!
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
299
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Posted - 2013.10.30 04:52:00 -
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Let's see... Diced heavy, Cooking Nades Chubbie edition, Fatboy a la Flame.... yep recipes for war are ready to go And truly nothing but respect for you hardcore Heavies |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
508
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Posted - 2013.10.30 05:07:00 -
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After 1.6 im going commando |
Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
684
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Posted - 2013.10.30 05:11:00 -
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Scouts for the win. I got an idea, every day starting on the 5th, we come here and post any heavy or scout kills. oh yeah. good thing I got comp. damage mods. |
Sleepy Zan
2653
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Posted - 2013.10.30 05:14:00 -
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Heavies- No intelligence required.
Scouts- You better have some ******* intelligence.
A good sniper doesn't provide battlefield intelligence, a good sniper leaves no intelligence left on the battlefield
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
1316
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Posted - 2013.10.30 05:14:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:Heavy is to bland and slow for me Scout and Dropship 4 life! I hate when we agree(heavies ain't so bad tho) |
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castba
Penguin's March
161
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Posted - 2013.10.30 05:16:00 -
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+1 OP. Respect scout players and even dabble a little myself. I wonder if there would be a way to sync up some FW matches which would result in a purely heavies Amarr vs a purely scout Minmatar. Would be cool. |
Phazoid
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
91
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Posted - 2013.10.30 06:36:00 -
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well i have a big repect for heavies, i kind of used a hmg suit pre uprising and it was fun, they are to slow for me, but i think they are by far the second most badass class ever, but i will stil shotgun them and laugh evily
Me and my inner demons stopped fighting......We are on the same side now...
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Death Dealer86
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
57
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Posted - 2013.10.30 07:04:00 -
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I love catching you shotgun scouts hopping around like little bunnies. You are by far my favorite kill! Scout = a fat man's appetizer |
Heinrich Jagerblitzen
D3LTA FORC3
994
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Posted - 2013.10.30 07:25:00 -
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Scouts are frakked, bring it on!! Team Fatty FTW |
Vitharr Foebane
Blood Money Mercenaries
164
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Posted - 2013.10.30 07:29:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:Scouts are frakked, bring it on!! Team Fatty FTW ^ This
Dedicated fattie in need of new heavy content.
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Death Dealer86
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
57
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Posted - 2013.10.30 07:31:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:Scouts are frakked, bring it on!! Team Fatty FTW hahahaha! Have you ever read that book See Scout Run? |
Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
158
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Posted - 2013.10.30 08:15:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Heavies- No intelligence required.
Scouts- You better have some ******* intelligence. Have you played heavy since the introduction of AA and better hit detection in 1.4? Heavy in the open=dies instantly. They have to use cover, and where there isn't cover, use the lie of the land to make some. Whereas a good assault/logi with AR/ScR/LR can run across a field and rely on gungame to get them through any engagement. Heavy is a very tactical role needing a lot of intelligence for survival. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
446
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Posted - 2013.10.30 08:21:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Heavies- No intelligence required.
Scouts- You better have some ******* intelligence. Are you even playing the same game as the rest of us?
Then again I'm still confused about a Scout Vs Heavy war. Is that like part of the Forum Metagame where people try to get other stuff nerfed so they can win? Or maybe a sports rivalry only more bloody and no-one can truly die?
Whatever. When in the Boom/Dakka mood I play this character. When in the stabby-stab mood it's the Minja Alt. It is dang nice not being pigeonholed.
"She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now," Thank you SR-71
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General John Ripper
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
11355
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Posted - 2013.10.30 08:22:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Man, I can't even pick a side! Both are awesome! I pick scout.
Dust 514's #1 Forum Warrior
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King of Tacos
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Jacques Cayton II
CALDARI SPECIAL FORCES -the specials
54
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Posted - 2013.10.30 09:45:00 -
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I will see you on the battlefield with my boundless. But if I hear the knives I'm gonna freak out or the shotty... I hate the shotty. |
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Qn1f3
Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.10.30 10:18:00 -
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I myself belong to the purist scouts, with the occasional sidestep into my Skinweave Heavy, so I guess I belong on both sides.
But there is something that I missed, what is this talk about a fix for Scouts and SG's?
Give me a good read!
EDIT: This?
"However, the majority of Uprising 1.6GÇÖs changes will be focused on bug fixes and general game polish. Some of these are vehicle turret fixes, improved Shotgun and Nova Knife hit detection, hit detection in general, animation tweaks, equipment sliding, and fixes for the visual corruption that was present in Uprising 1.5." |
Aseair
The Immortal 514
5
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Posted - 2013.10.30 11:08:00 -
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Qn1f3 wrote:I myself belong to the purist scouts, with the occasional sidestep into my Skinweave Heavy, so I guess I belong on both sides.
But there is something that I missed, what is this talk about a fix for Scouts and SG's?
Give me a good read!
EDIT: This?
"However, the majority of Uprising 1.6GÇÖs changes will be focused on bug fixes and general game polish. Some of these are vehicle turret fixes, improved Shotgun and Nova Knife hit detection, hit detection in general, animation tweaks, equipment sliding, and fixes for the visual corruption that was present in Uprising 1.5." Precisely. The patch notes are up somewhere around here...
Memento vos sunt immortales
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Mirataf
WARRIORS 1NC
88
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Posted - 2013.10.30 11:23:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Heavies- No intelligence required.
Scouts- You better have some ******* intelligence. Have you played heavy since the introduction of AA and better hit detection in 1.4? Heavy in the open=dies instantly. They have to use cover, and where there isn't cover, use the lie of the land to make some. Whereas a good assault/logi with AR/ScR/LR can run across a field and rely on gungame to get them through any engagement. Heavy is a very tactical role needing a lot of intelligence for survival.
spot on, a heavy is a scout that doesn't move distance without grouping up. I.e. tactical cover management, in your face killer
Scouts run about normally on their own then use tactical cover management, in your face killer
Roles need a lot more separation. Both good for holding an objective
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Snagman 313
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
150
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Posted - 2013.10.30 11:34:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:With KNs/SGs fixed and heavys increasing hp I fully expect the Heavy V Scout war to continue.
We have our respect for one another, we even support each other's causes from the midframe assault on our classes, but in the end we are counters to each other and we will have battle.
Good luck to all you Heavys come the fifth because this is going to be bloody and my blades are ready.
I look forward to the challenge my friend.
But let us never forget that while we are eternal rivals we are also brothers in arms against the tide of the AR Midframe.
FORWARDS MY BROTHERS!!! So that we may one day grind them to dust and show them the true heart of our classes!!!!
They will be in awe of your speed, terrified of the lack of your scan profile and stricken by the power of your renewed weapons.
They will be horrified by my armour, they will laugh at my hitbox but then they will hear the clatter chatter and scream of my HMG and they will know TERROR!!!
FORWARDS MY BROTHERS!!! Grind them to dust. |
Keeriam Miray
R 0 N 1 N
86
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Posted - 2013.10.30 11:40:00 -
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So big, so angry, so dead... |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1848
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Posted - 2013.10.30 13:35:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote: Then again I'm still confused about a Scout Vs Heavy war. Is that like part of the Forum Metagame where people try to get other stuff nerfed so they can win?
Nope!
If anything, Scouts have advocated for better Heavies and Heavies have advocated for better Scouts.
Back in Chromosome, Scouts and Heavies were both dangerous to encounter up-close. One had massive mobility, the other massive DPS potential. Natural counters. Mortal enemies. In Uprising, both formerly feared classes were nerf-banged to slightly better than free WP for mediums.
We miss the old rivalry and would see it returned. Mongoose vs Snake. Tiger vs Bear.
We Scouts welcome any/all Fatty buffs; so long as someday we'll be able to Mario them again :-) |
Aseair
The Immortal 514
5
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Posted - 2013.10.30 15:40:00 -
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And lest we forget, a Heavy and a Scout working together can be a terrifying notion. Just earlier today a random heavy and I came to a mutual, unspoken understanding on this front while trying to hold an objective closest to the enemy MCC alone. He engages, I flank while they're soiling themselves. 2000 RPM HMG on your front and an invisible shotgun in your back. I can think of nothing that would make me jump out of my seat faster.
Praise be to you, my fatty nemesis/bretheren!
Memento vos sunt immortales
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Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
705
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Posted - 2013.10.30 15:41:00 -
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castba wrote:+1 OP. Respect scout players and even dabble a little myself. I wonder if there would be a way to sync up some FW matches which would result in a purely heavies Amarr vs a purely scout Minmatar. Would be cool.
We would have to record that. IT WOULD BE EPIC
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
705
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Posted - 2013.10.30 15:42:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote: Then again I'm still confused about a Scout Vs Heavy war. Is that like part of the Forum Metagame where people try to get other stuff nerfed so they can win?
Nope! If anything, Scouts have advocated for better Heavies and Heavies have advocated for better Scouts. Back in Chromosome, Scouts and Heavies were both dangerous to encounter up-close. One had massive mobility, the other massive DPS potential. Natural counters. Mortal enemies. In Uprising, both formerly feared classes were nerf-banged to slightly better than free WP for mediums. We miss the old rivalry and would see it returned. Mongoose vs Snake. Tiger vs Bear.We Scouts welcome any/all Fatty buffs; so long as someday we'll be able to Mario them again :-)
For some reason, I thought that part was REALLY funny. lol
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
490
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Posted - 2013.10.30 15:47:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote: We miss the old rivalry and would see it returned. Mongoose vs Snake.
Does this mean the mediums are currently honey badgers?
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THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
1203
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Posted - 2013.10.30 16:22:00 -
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My new fit: 'THUNDERGROOVE' Sentinel ak.0 Basic shield energizer ZN-28 Nova Knives CRG-3 Shotgun M1 Locus Grenade 2x Enhanced KinCats Basic Cardiac Regulator Enhanced Armor repairer
What is a signature?
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Monty Mole Clone
Shiv M
77
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Posted - 2013.10.30 16:24:00 -
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after this hp increase my std sentinel is going to have 600/900 shields and armour with an assault scrambler, you would have to be really unlucky to loose to any scout with those sorts of numbers
scouts are still getting the ****** end of the stick |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1720
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Posted - 2013.10.30 16:28:00 -
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Monty Mole Clone wrote:after this hp increase my std sentinel is going to have 600/900 shields and armour with an assault scrambler, you would have to be really unlucky to loose to any scout with those sorts of numbers
scouts are still getting the ****** end of the stick We always have, and that's why we will win.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 1
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Kam Elto
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
105
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Posted - 2013.10.30 16:32:00 -
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It's a trap! The mid frame easy moders are trying to get us to kill each other off. We need to band together against the AR scourge. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1722
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Posted - 2013.10.30 16:32:00 -
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Kam Elto wrote:It's a trap! The mid frame easy moders are trying to get us to kill each other off. We need to band together against the AR scourge. Don't worry we're immortal we can't truly die!
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 1
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
313
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Posted - 2013.10.30 17:17:00 -
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I love when heavies can't backpedal and i can easily slice their fatty armor
Assassination is my thing.
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
3903
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Posted - 2013.10.30 17:32:00 -
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so as some who's specced into heavies, lights, and midframes i guess i just jump over to whatever side takes my fancy whenever i fancy, and the interesting thing is that my fits in each class all use the smg.
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Bringer of Bacon
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martinofski
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
325
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Posted - 2013.10.30 18:09:00 -
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That's the kind of topic that make me want to get back in the game. But....I wont, not yet. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1463
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Posted - 2013.10.30 18:17:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:With KNs/SGs fixed and heavys increasing hp I fully expect the Heavy V Scout war to continue.
We have our respect for one another, we even support each other's causes from the midframe assault on our classes, but in the end we are counters to each other and we will have battle.
Good luck to all you Heavys come the fifth because this is going to be bloody and my blades are ready. Right now Assault Suit with an Assault Rifle is the Heavy Counter. If Scouts want to be the counter to heavies they need to support HeavyGÇÖs fight to get an HMG buff. (Specifically the addition of a dispersion reducing skill.) If the HMG is doing less damage than the Assault Rifle, then the ability to jump around and stay ahead of the HMGGÇÖs line of fire is not really important.
Immortal Guides, supporting knowledge dissemination in New Eden since August 31, 2013.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1835
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:39:00 -
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I am here for your fatty souls!
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 1
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1835
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:57:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:With KNs/SGs fixed and heavys increasing hp I fully expect the Heavy V Scout war to continue.
We have our respect for one another, we even support each other's causes from the midframe assault on our classes, but in the end we are counters to each other and we will have battle.
Good luck to all you Heavys come the fifth because this is going to be bloody and my blades are ready. Right now Assault Suit with an Assault Rifle is the Heavy Counter. If Scouts want to be the counter to heavies they need to support HeavyGÇÖs fight to get an HMG buff. (Specifically the addition of a dispersion reducing skill.) If the HMG is doing less damage than the Assault Rifle, then the ability to jump around and stay ahead of the HMGGÇÖs line of fire is not really important. In turn you heavys have gotta support our cloaks when la nerf bat comes swinging.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 1
Tryhard Veteran
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
396
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:06:00 -
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But... but..
"We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1499
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:18:00 -
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Heavies with Assault Rifles are going to be sooo OP!
I am hoping they become the FTM fit. Maybe if CCP sees on their charts a large spike in kills by Assault Rifles on Heavy suits, they may finally realize that something is a bit off.
Immortal Guides, supporting knowledge dissemination in New Eden since August 31, 2013.
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Death Dealer86
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
69
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:35:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:I am here for your fatty souls! Lmao! I will pick my teeth with your bones! |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
643
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:44:00 -
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I really enjoy the scout v.s. heavy rivalry. It's a fun challenge, and I support my heavy brethren in their cause.
That being said----- \/
Monty Mole Clone wrote:after this hp increase my std sentinel is going to have 600/900 shields and armour with an assault scrambler, you would have to be really unlucky to loose to any scout with those sorts of numbers
scouts are still getting the ****** end of the stick
I guess I have to use an extra scrambler pistol headshot now....
blam, blam, blam, blam..... oh wait. BLAM! |
Aisha Ctarl
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1642
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Posted - 2013.11.05 12:03:00 -
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I play scout occasionally as I wait for the Amarr variant, but what's a good adv Gallente scout fit?
Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given."
- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
644
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Posted - 2013.11.05 12:34:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:I play scout occasionally as I wait for the Amarr variant, but what's a good adv Gallente scout fit?
I don't have any well tested ADV fits, but here are a few of my basic fits (you can prob through an extra shield extender or damage mod in the high slot): These would probably work well with a variety of weapons, whatever your specialty. In the past I've used shotguns and AR's and Laser rifles.
for speed/attack play: low: complex kin/cat basic armor repper high: enh shield extender grenade: M1 locus
for recon/tactical play: low: enh range extender *2 high: enh shield extender granade: M1 locus or flux
for A/V or 'assault':
low: enh armor plate enh repper high: enh shield grenade: packed A/V nade
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ELITE INQUISITOR
Eternal Beings
7
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:34:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:It seems time to dust off the ol' Shotties, one last time. May even go for the GalLogi Scouted out.
But, I've been having fun and decent success with Heavies lately.
I am Jack's raging internal confliction.
Love the fight club reference.Scouts will dominate the war
If you accept your limitations you go beyond them
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
118
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:46:00 -
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Death Dealer86 wrote:Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:Scouts are frakked, bring it on!! Team Fatty FTW hahahaha! Have you ever read that book See Scout Run? EDIT: Scouts are the only thing more laughable than the heavy class and derpships!
I'm gonna shoot you in your foot. then you will apologise. |
Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
704
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Posted - 2013.11.05 19:09:00 -
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It's such an interesting couple, the scout and heavy. Picture a scout sitting on the shoulders of a heavy. I squad with a corp mate and while he uses HMG I run with SMG I either go ahead to scout and direct fire to me then he pops up or I let him go forward as a shield. Together we deal 3000 rpm. He protects me I protect him. He goes down, I have a needle. He tells me to stay behind him awww. Then I go in front of him and distract enemies. It's a cool pair to see. |
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1847
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Posted - 2013.11.05 19:25:00 -
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I suppose I should be changing the title of this thread to: The death of Scouts and TRUE Heavys.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 1
Tryhard Veteran
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