DUST Search - A Call to Boycott The Heavy Class

Delta 749 wrote:

Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:

Delta 749 wrote:

Im sorry but your reply just gives evidence you playing badly, if before when the suit could survive multiple opponents you were doing fine compared to now when its a little more balanced where you are losing 1 v 1 consistently then the problem really does lie with you, after all you are in a suit with more health than others with every single weapon available to you

As for the heavy medium comparison lets break it down a little
I have a proto medium frame suit with 4 high and 3 lows, stacking my module slots with 4 complex extenders 2 basic plates and an armor rep I still fall a few EHP short of a MILITIA heavy suit with nothing in its slots
Bump that up to a standard heavy suit and Im still in the 800s while the heavy is over a thousand again with no modules on the heavy

Heavies get a huge health lead on medium suits without having to fit heavies and for us to get close we sacrifice pretty much everything to stack EHP and still fall short while you guys still have modules to work with
Slow speed? Oh I guess Ill just stack some kincats while retaining greater health than a medium closing my disadvantage gap
HMG complaints fall of deaf ears since the devs have come right out and said its supposed to be close range point defense not trundle out into the open kill everyone, you want that demand the laser cannon or whatever its going to be and I will support you every step since heavy suits do have limited heavy weapons and neither of those is a good mid range option
Actually on the topics of weapons and you complaining about power heavies have the forge gun and the militia version of that blaps all but other heavies stacked with just complex plates and extenders but thats a terrible idea

So yeah, heavies already have a lot of advantages with their biggest drawback being a lack of a medium range heavy weapon option and everyone that cries "Waaaaah I need more health and should have fire arm resistance and it should take four players to kill me" shows real scrub colors since they need such a big buffer to compensate for their poor ability

Honestly not going to read this. I started to but meh.

Clearly you don't use the class, but telling a seasoned DUST / FPS player how to use a class? lol.. good one.

Thank you, come again.

Translation: I cant think of a good comeback so Im going to play the "I R teh seasoned guy" against someone thats played this game for months and months and has been playing FPS games since Wolfenstein 3d

But since you seem to only be able to hand a few lines at a time Ill ask short questions, if you are so seasoned how come you keep dying in situations where you have the advantage?

I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"


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Cosgar ParagonX 6797	Posted - 2013.10.29 23:25:00 - [1] - Quote You should be trying to get the HMG fixed. What's the point of more resistance or HP if you don't have the accuracy, range, and DPS to back it up? I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Cosgar ParagonX 6822	Posted - 2013.10.30 03:51:00 - [2] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: +1 Yall need some love. Also: Minmatar heavy noaw. They're holding back the rusty linebacker because Dust 514 won't be able to handle a fat boy that can sprint 6.6m/s I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Cosgar ParagonX 6830	Posted - 2013.10.30 07:38:00 - [3] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Boycotting wont get the developers to notice sadly. Well making endless threads crying about it might, so I might do just that. It's really depressing just how right they both are. One of the truly worst elements to this game has been basing nerfs on politics instead of data. When players can sit post-match and easily match Name/KDRs/Weapon relationships then it doesn't look good on the Devs who have even more in-depth data available. As for the main topic goes the active protest is the way to go. Endless forum posts that may not move the Devs but at least warn newer players from making a potentially bad mistake. If we can get enough angry fatties together I would suggest squading up and lizard lounging on the MCC. BS on coms, drink beer or take shots and talk about things that have no relation to Dust 514. To be fair to the team post in chat and attempted one warning on voiced comms. Occupy Jita? I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Cosgar ParagonX 6832	Posted - 2013.10.30 07:57:00 - [4] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Im sorry but your reply just gives evidence you playing badly, if before when the suit could survive multiple opponents you were doing fine compared to now when its a little more balanced where you are losing 1 v 1 consistently then the problem really does lie with you, after all you are in a suit with more health than others with every single weapon available to you As for the heavy medium comparison lets break it down a little I have a proto medium frame suit with 4 high and 3 lows, stacking my module slots with 4 complex extenders 2 basic plates and an armor rep I still fall a few EHP short of a MILITIA heavy suit with nothing in its slots Bump that up to a standard heavy suit and Im still in the 800s while the heavy is over a thousand again with no modules on the heavy Heavies get a huge health lead on medium suits without having to fit heavies and for us to get close we sacrifice pretty much everything to stack EHP and still fall short while you guys still have modules to work with Slow speed? Oh I guess Ill just stack some kincats while retaining greater health than a medium closing my disadvantage gap HMG complaints fall of deaf ears since the devs have come right out and said its supposed to be close range point defense not trundle out into the open kill everyone, you want that demand the laser cannon or whatever its going to be and I will support you every step since heavy suits do have limited heavy weapons and neither of those is a good mid range option Actually on the topics of weapons and you complaining about power heavies have the forge gun and the militia version of that blaps all but other heavies stacked with just complex plates and extenders but thats a terrible idea So yeah, heavies already have a lot of advantages with their biggest drawback being a lack of a medium range heavy weapon option and everyone that cries "Waaaaah I need more health and should have fire arm resistance and it should take four players to kill me" shows real scrub colors since they need such a big buffer to compensate for their poor ability Honestly not going to read this. I started to but meh. Clearly you don't use the class, but telling a seasoned DUST / FPS player how to use a class? lol.. good one. Thank you, come again. Translation: I cant think of a good comeback so Im going to play the "I R teh seasoned guy" against someone thats played this game for months and months and has been playing FPS games since Wolfenstein 3d But since you seem to only be able to hand a few lines at a time Ill ask short questions, if you are so seasoned how come you keep dying in situations where you have the advantage? If heavies have such an advantage, why is CCP buffing their HP? It's not like they're doing Shagi bone rituals to decide what needs buffs and what needs nerfs. They checked their data and saw that heavies were under performing. Even if seasoned heavies were holding their own, accessibility could have been an issue with new players giving up the role. Doesn't matter anyway since it only means they'll take another 2-3 bullets from dying to an automatic weapon. Hell, I've killed heavies with a toxin- within their optimal range. They could buff the heavy's HP by another 100 in 1.7, but if their weapon deals more damage and is more accurate when you throw it at someone, what's the point? I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Cosgar ParagonX 7122	Posted - 2013.11.04 01:20:00 - [5] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: Killar-12 wrote: Lance is correct with whatever he said... give the HMG a SS skill and 50% more range or damage I approve Seconded. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"