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DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 2287	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:32:00 - [1] - Quote So 6m buff...? That's it? Thanks so much CCP Passive scanning is a tiny step in the right direction... But so tiny it's negligible. Why? Because the active scanner. The active scanner is OP and has close to no drawback. What's the point of getting passive boost when the team would rather send in a logi with a proto active scanner instead? GûêGûêGûôGûÆGûæGûæGôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢GûæGûæGûÆGûôGûêGûêGûê ¸¸.GÇó¨GÇóGÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà¸¸.GÇó¨GÇó Gùó GùúForum Warrior LV. 2GùÑ Gùñ
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4791	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:37:00 - [2] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: So 6m buff...? That's it? Thanks so much CCP Passive scanning is a tiny step in the right direction... But so tiny it's negligible. Why? Because the active scanner. The active scanner is OP and has close to no drawback. What's the point of getting passive boost when the team would rather send in a logi with a proto active scanner instead? Have you done the math on how much 16m translates into compared to 10m? It's significant to me. A Gallente Scout GK.0 with 3x Profile Damps and 1x Range Amp will do a great job in seeing others while still evading most scanners. As I said to someone else earlier, the active scanner may have the range advantage, but it gives your target an alert that you are nearby. A good scout wouldn't alert his target. CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 481	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:39:00 - [3] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Have you done the math on how much 16m translates into compared to 10m? It's significant to me. A Gallente Scout GK.0 with 3x Profile Damps and 1x Range Amp will do a great job in seeing others while still evading most scanners. As I said to someone else earlier, the active scanner may have the range advantage, but it gives your target an alert that you are nearby. A good scout wouldn't alert his target. Wish I had proto scout. I want to make a stealth bomber using a proto gal scout fitted with 3x cmp range amp + 1x std prof damp + RE.
Oswald Rehnquist Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance 353	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:40:00 - [4] - Quote 16 (+50%) = 24 as a passive this isn't even adding extenders
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1307	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:48:00 - [5] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: 16 (+50%) = 24 as a passive this isn't even adding extenders I think with Max passive scan skills you get another 8 meters bringing it up to 32. That plus a range extender and a precision scan mod and you have got a good combo.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 1562	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:54:00 - [6] - Quote Gallente scouts benefit the most from it. Minmatars be sad. Check out & sub my youtube. Yay!
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2164	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:56:00 - [7] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: So 6m buff...? That's it? Thanks so much CCP Passive scanning is a tiny step in the right direction... But so tiny it's negligible. Why? Because the active scanner. The active scanner is OP and has close to no drawback. What's the point of getting passive boost when the team would rather send in a logi with a proto active scanner instead? Have you done the math on how much 16m translates into compared to 10m? It's significant to me. A Gallente Scout GK.0 with 3x Profile Damps and 1x Range Amp will do a great job in seeing others while still evading most scanners. As I said to someone else earlier, the active scanner may have the range advantage, but it gives your target an alert that you are nearby. A good scout wouldn't alert his target. Well said Maken
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 2289	Posted - 2013.10.29 18:25:00 - [8] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: So 6m buff...? That's it? Thanks so much CCP Passive scanning is a tiny step in the right direction... But so tiny it's negligible. Why? Because the active scanner. The active scanner is OP and has close to no drawback. What's the point of getting passive boost when the team would rather send in a logi with a proto active scanner instead? Have you done the math on how much 16m translates into compared to 10m? It's significant to me. A Gallente Scout GK.0 with 3x Profile Damps and 1x Range Amp will do a great job in seeing others while still evading most scanners. As I said to someone else earlier, the active scanner may have the range advantage, but it gives your target an alert that you are nearby. A good scout wouldn't alert his target. Honestly it doesn't matter. I wish they balanced the buff with PC in mind. Because let men tell you. This won't change a thing in how useless scouts are in PC. Why? Because the activ scanner is better in every way. GûêGûêGûôGûÆGûæGûæGôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢GûæGûæGûÆGûôGûêGûêGûê ¸¸.GÇó¨GÇóGÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà¸¸.GÇó¨GÇó Gùó GùúForum Warrior LV. 2GùÑ Gùñ
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 302	Posted - 2013.10.29 18:27:00 - [9] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: So 6m buff...? That's it? Thanks so much CCP Passive scanning is a tiny step in the right direction... But so tiny it's negligible. Why? Because the active scanner. The active scanner is OP and has close to no drawback. What's the point of getting passive boost when the team would rather send in a logi with a proto active scanner instead? Have you done the math on how much 16m translates into compared to 10m? It's significant to me. A Gallente Scout GK.0 with 3x Profile Damps and 1x Range Amp will do a great job in seeing others while still evading most scanners. As I said to someone else earlier, the active scanner may have the range advantage, but it gives your target an alert that you are nearby. A good scout wouldn't alert his target. Might wanna change that nova knife signature since they're being fixed. *Assassination is my thing.*
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 482	Posted - 2013.10.29 18:29:00 - [10] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Might wanna change that nova knife signature since they're being fixed. Might as well keep it until the fix is confirmed to actually fix nova knives.

General John Ripper MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 11238	Posted - 2013.10.29 18:39:00 - [11] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: So 6m buff...? That's it? Thanks so much CCP Passive scanning is a tiny step in the right direction... But so tiny it's negligible. Why? Because the active scanner. The active scanner is OP and has close to no drawback. What's the point of getting passive boost when the team would rather send in a logi with a proto active scanner instead? by that logic.... Ripper more important than Maruader. <3 Level 5 Forum Warrior Prof 5 Founder of the Forum Warrior Club King of Tacos
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4798	Posted - 2013.10.29 18:44:00 - [12] - Quote Krom Ganesh wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: Might wanna change that nova knife signature since they're being fixed. Might as well keep it until the fix is confirmed to actually fix nova knives. Until they say what specifics they made to it, my signature is staying. CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
Zatara Rought MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1441	Posted - 2013.10.29 18:44:00 - [13] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: So 6m buff...? That's it? Thanks so much CCP Passive scanning is a tiny step in the right direction... But so tiny it's negligible. Why? Because the active scanner. The active scanner is OP and has close to no drawback. What's the point of getting passive boost when the team would rather send in a logi with a proto active scanner instead? Indeed. We all know the scanner needs a nerf though...lighting up the whole city continuously kinda makes internal scanners worthless...because you just spin when you scan and the scans last a rediculously long time? When they nerf the scanner, then this will be a buff.
8213 Grade No.2 514	Posted - 2013.10.29 18:44:00 - [14] - Quote Shut... up...
General John Ripper MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 11240	Posted - 2013.10.29 18:51:00 - [15] - Quote Marauder needs to do the right thing and sit out of a pc match and have me replace him as a ringer. My scanner will def be a great help to AE. Level 5 Forum Warrior Prof 5 Founder of the Forum Warrior Club King of Tacos
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1452	Posted - 2013.10.29 18:52:00 - [16] - Quote 16 m when combined with full Gallente Scout suit bonus and full Scan Radius skill puts the range out past what we had in Chromosome. I ran Shotgun Scout in Chromosome. 30+ m is plenty. Put a damp on it so you are invisible to Active Scanners and all your fights should start (and hopefully finish) with your enemy looking the other way. For Minmatar Scout this is not as great a buff, but with Scan Radius skill leveled it should at least help you look around corners. Besides, this was clearly a Gallente Scout buff. The Minmatar Scout buff when it comes should involve speed. ____________________________________________________________________________ Immortal Guides, supporting knowledge dissemination in New Eden since August 31, 2013. Immortal Guides, supporting knowledge dissemination in New Eden since August 31, 2013.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1661	Posted - 2013.10.29 18:54:00 - [17] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: So 6m buff...? That's it? Thanks so much CCP Passive scanning is a tiny step in the right direction... But so tiny it's negligible. Why? Because the active scanner. The active scanner is OP and has close to no drawback. What's the point of getting passive boost when the team would rather send in a logi with a proto active scanner instead? Have you done the math on how much 16m translates into compared to 10m? It's significant to me. A Gallente Scout GK.0 with 3x Profile Damps and 1x Range Amp will do a great job in seeing others while still evading most scanners. As I said to someone else earlier, the active scanner may have the range advantage, but it gives your target an alert that you are nearby. A good scout wouldn't alert his target. Why would a proto scout ever use more than just 1 std dampener? Skill up to lvl damps and 1 mod will hide you from all scanners bar the meta 9. I've already recently run rampant in a PC game where the enemy couldn't find me despite constant scanning and with this extra passive scan range I'll be able to go with a range amp for 54m passive scan, whilst running around unscannable with a complex hack mod and complex repper to keep me healthy. The range buff may be small but it's a very decent start. If we get left at that, then that'll be bad but I get the impression this isn't the end of CCP's scout hugs. We could definitely still do with a wee speed buff and more CPU, especially at ADV. Dust2Dust - Funeral arrangements for all of New Eden. Join our public channel D2D. to chat and squad with us.
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 2296	Posted - 2013.10.29 19:32:00 - [18] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: So 6m buff...? That's it? Thanks so much CCP Passive scanning is a tiny step in the right direction... But so tiny it's negligible. Why? Because the active scanner. The active scanner is OP and has close to no drawback. What's the point of getting passive boost when the team would rather send in a logi with a proto active scanner instead? Have you done the math on how much 16m translates into compared to 10m? It's significant to me. A Gallente Scout GK.0 with 3x Profile Damps and 1x Range Amp will do a great job in seeing others while still evading most scanners. As I said to someone else earlier, the active scanner may have the range advantage, but it gives your target an alert that you are nearby. A good scout wouldn't alert his target. Why would a proto scout ever use more than just 1 std dampener? Skill up to lvl damps and 1 mod will hide you from all scanners bar the meta 9. I've already recently run rampant in a PC game where the enemy couldn't find me despite constant scanning and with this extra passive scan range I'll be able to go with a range amp for 54m passive scan, whilst running around unscannable with a complex hack mod and complex repper to keep me healthy. The range buff may be small but it's a very decent start. If we get left at that, then that'll be bad but I get the impression this isn't the end of CCP's scout hugs. We could definitely still do with a wee speed buff and more CPU, especially at ADV. With that fit I am sorry to say you will be pretty useless in PC. im being honest here. GûêGûêGûôGûÆGûæGûæGôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢GûæGûæGûÆGûôGûêGûêGûê ¸¸.GÇó¨GÇóGÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà¸¸.GÇó¨GÇó Gùó GùúForum Warrior LV. 2GùÑ Gùñ
Knight Soiaire Mercenaries of Sunlight 2874	Posted - 2013.10.29 19:36:00 - [19] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: So 6m buff...? That's it? Thanks so much CCP Passive scanning is a tiny step in the right direction... But so tiny it's negligible. Why? Because the active scanner. The active scanner is OP and has close to no drawback. What's the point of getting passive boost when the team would rather send in a logi with a proto active scanner instead? Have you done the math on how much 16m translates into compared to 10m? It's significant to me. A Gallente Scout GK.0 with 3x Profile Damps and 1x Range Amp will do a great job in seeing others while still evading most scanners. As I said to someone else earlier, the active scanner may have the range advantage, but it gives your target an alert that you are nearby. A good scout wouldn't alert his target. Might wanna change that nova knife signature since they're being fixed. This isn't the first update where they've said "Nova Knife hit detection improvements", and still, they're broken, dont get your hopes up, for all we know, it could become worse. Knight Soiaire's 40mil ISK Raffle! *Mercenaries of Sunlight!*
Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 77	Posted - 2013.10.29 20:07:00 - [20] - Quote it should go back to 25m scan radius for all scout suits, i cant remember anybody last build saying it was to much or saying it should be reduced

Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1662	Posted - 2013.10.29 20:15:00 - [21] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Django Quik wrote: I've already recently run rampant in a PC game where the enemy couldn't find me despite constant scanning and with this extra passive scan range I'll be able to go with a range amp for 54m passive scan, whilst running around unscannable with a complex hack mod and complex repper to keep me healthy. The range buff may be small but it's a very decent start. If we get left at that, then that'll be bad but I get the impression this isn't the end of CCP's scout hugs. We could definitely still do with a wee speed buff and more CPU, especially at ADV. With that fit I am sorry to say you will be pretty useless in PC. im being honest here. You say that but we destroyed the Generals at the weekend and I played a large part in the success by running around and hacking/continually hassling the enemy objectives undetected. Especially in the built up areas they really struggled to follow/track me and I'd hack fast enough to get in and out before they could catch me. Dust2Dust - Funeral arrangements for all of New Eden. Join our public channel D2D. to chat and squad with us.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3392	Posted - 2013.10.29 20:16:00 - [22] - Quote Gallente Scout with max skills and 1 complex range mod Now: 10 * 1.5 * 1.5 * 1.45 = 32.625 m In 1.6: 16 * 1.5 * 1.5 * 1.45 = 52.2 m Other scouts with max skills and 1 complex range mod Now: 10 * 1.5 * 1.45 = 21.75 m In 1.6: 16 * 1.5 * 1.45 = 34.8 m Do some math before you say, "Just 6 m?" Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 2298	Posted - 2013.10.29 20:18:00 - [23] - Quote Django Quik wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: Django Quik wrote: I've already recently run rampant in a PC game where the enemy couldn't find me despite constant scanning and with this extra passive scan range I'll be able to go with a range amp for 54m passive scan, whilst running around unscannable with a complex hack mod and complex repper to keep me healthy. The range buff may be small but it's a very decent start. If we get left at that, then that'll be bad but I get the impression this isn't the end of CCP's scout hugs. We could definitely still do with a wee speed buff and more CPU, especially at ADV. With that fit I am sorry to say you will be pretty useless in PC. im being honest here. You say that but we destroyed the Generals at the weekend and I played a large part in the success by running around and hacking/continually hassling the enemy objectives undetected. Especially in the built up areas they really struggled to follow/track me and I'd hack fast enough to get in and out before they could catch me. Highlighted why. In more high level play you're fit would be useless. Because no one would go out of the way to try and find you. And there will always be at least 1 person looking at the panel at all times. GûêGûêGûôGûÆGûæGûæGôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢GûæGûæGûÆGûôGûêGûêGûê ¸¸.GÇó¨GÇóGÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà¸¸.GÇó¨GÇó Gùó GùúForum Warrior LV. 2GùÑ Gùñ
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1663	Posted - 2013.10.29 20:36:00 - [24] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Django Quik wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: Django Quik wrote: I've already recently run rampant in a PC game where the enemy couldn't find me despite constant scanning and with this extra passive scan range I'll be able to go with a range amp for 54m passive scan, whilst running around unscannable with a complex hack mod and complex repper to keep me healthy. The range buff may be small but it's a very decent start. If we get left at that, then that'll be bad but I get the impression this isn't the end of CCP's scout hugs. We could definitely still do with a wee speed buff and more CPU, especially at ADV. With that fit I am sorry to say you will be pretty useless in PC. im being honest here. You say that but we destroyed the Generals at the weekend and I played a large part in the success by running around and hacking/continually hassling the enemy objectives undetected. Especially in the built up areas they really struggled to follow/track me and I'd hack fast enough to get in and out before they could catch me. Bolded why. In more high level play you're fit would be useless. Because no one would go out of the way to try and find you. And there will always be at least 1 person looking at the panel at all times. Fair nuff but we've got more games lined up soon against some other tough opponents, so I'll report my success/failures in the scout thread and who the opponents were. If there is anyone watching the objectives, my passive will pick them up and I'll sneak kill them before heading in for a quick few second hack and then out again. Should be solid tactics in built up areas where I can break line of sight quick enough to escape but we'll see in future if this works... Dust2Dust - Funeral arrangements for all of New Eden. Join our public channel D2D. to chat and squad with us.
hackerzilla Defenders of the Helghast Dream 435	Posted - 2013.10.29 20:38:00 - [25] - Quote I liked at first, but then I realized that you made this into a pointless QQ thread... Give me my Combat Rifle* and Rail Rifle goddammit!*


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