DUST Search - Plasma Cannon and Commando still needs some love

Alldin Kan wrote:

Fizzer94 wrote:

Alldin Kan wrote:

Fizzer94 wrote:

Then get good with the plasma cannon. It is a weapon that takes your skill and gives you results based on it. If you are as good of a player as your 35 kills per game says you are, the high skill requirement of the Placon shouldn't deter you.

What I'm trying to say is that all other light weapons are far better than the PC, even the laser rifle can be more useful than this thing. A splash radius and projectile speed increase is mandatory for this weapon.

All other light weapons, except the Swarms and Mass Driver (which I personally consider both the most easy mode weapons in the game) can't effectively destroy vehicles or installations. The Placon is the second most versatile weapon in the game, except Forge Guns, which are getting nerfed, so it might soon be the single most versatile weapon in the game.
Generally speaking, the Placon sacrifices almost all of its ease of use, to be extremely versatile. It isn't meant to be a slayer weapon, and it is working as intended.
I don't get why you say all other light weapons are better than it. Its better than an AR at blowing up turrets, and better than a swarm launcher for killing people. Its a weapon without a niche.
If you are looking to shoot and kill just people, there are many other options for doing that.
If you want to be able to shoot everything, look no further than the Placon or Forge Gun.

The direct damage for PC is so bad right now that it can'y really be used to blow up vehicles other than militia and its splash radius is terrible, so no, it's not versatile at this moment. Your comments keep suggesting that you're merely a regular player on Dust, that's concerning.

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Alldin Kan MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 735	Posted - 2013.10.29 14:47:00 - [1] - Quote How about increasing the splash radius and projectile speed? I can do more damage multiple times with a scrambler rifle charge shot, scrambler pistol headshot, and a shotgun. The Commando buff was nice but the shield regen of 10 is still ugly to look at (just raise it to 17 HP/s). INFINITE COOKIES LOL Commando LOL Plasma Cannon
Doc Noah Algintal Core Gallente Federation 781	Posted - 2013.10.29 14:49:00 - [2] - Quote Didnt they already increase projectile speed last patch?
JL3Eleven 1175	Posted - 2013.10.29 14:49:00 - [3] - Quote Splash damage is noob talk, see flaylock for example. I'm drunk every time I play, what's your excuse? Forums > Game Oh I almost forgot... Can I haz ur stuff?
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1920	Posted - 2013.10.29 14:53:00 - [4] - Quote Of course you can do more damage with a Scrambler. I'm not sure how that makes a valid balancing analogy to the PlaC.
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 438	Posted - 2013.10.29 14:55:00 - [5] - Quote Don't you dare turn my beloved Plasma Cannon into a Noobtube by increasing splash. Just fix the problems with the splash it already has not registering/misfires/lag between sidearm and PLC and maybe scale up the damage a bit better from STD to PROTO. That is all it needs. The Dust 514 AFK song
Cy Clone1 Cy CL0Ne 1 310	Posted - 2013.10.29 14:56:00 - [6] - Quote the plasma cannon needs a faster projectile speed and more direct damage. its an av weapon yet it cant be used as such It's over 9000!
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 438	Posted - 2013.10.29 14:58:00 - [7] - Quote Cy Clone1 wrote: the plasma cannon needs a faster projectile speed and more direct damage. its an av weapon yet it cant be used as such 1. It's not an AV weapon. 2. I eat shield tanks and LAVs for breakfast. 3. The projectile is fine. Learn how to lead your target. The Dust 514 AFK song
Chit Hoppened Venomous Rat Regeneration Vendors 103	Posted - 2013.10.29 14:59:00 - [8] - Quote Roofer, thank you for that. And I wouldn't even give it a better damage. Maybe 40 more across the board. TOPS. Or give us a variant. I vote for variants. Bringing Heavy Metal to New Eden, one clone at a time.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1923	Posted - 2013.10.29 14:59:00 - [9] - Quote Cy Clone1 wrote: the plasma cannon needs a faster projectile speed and more direct damage. its an av weapon yet it cant be used as such Is it AV? Sure it can do reasonable damage, but so can a HMG.
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 438	Posted - 2013.10.29 14:59:00 - [10] - Quote Chit Hoppened wrote: Roofer, thank you for that. And I wouldn't even give it a better damage. Maybe 40 more across the board. TOPS. Or give us a variant. I vote for variants. An armor variant would be sweeeeeet. Then tankers would cry OP and we could all have a good laugh. The Dust 514 AFK song

Chit Hoppened Venomous Rat Regeneration Vendors 103	Posted - 2013.10.29 15:03:00 - [11] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Chit Hoppened wrote: Roofer, thank you for that. And I wouldn't even give it a better damage. Maybe 40 more across the board. TOPS. Or give us a variant. I vote for variants. An armor variant would be sweeeeeet. Then tankers would cry OP and we could all have a good laugh. That'd be bad. But down right hilarious. I want a Burst Variant. Two 60% blobs. 10 ammo count (base). It'd be Proto only but it'd be soooooooooo awesome. Bringing Heavy Metal to New Eden, one clone at a time.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 528	Posted - 2013.10.29 15:04:00 - [12] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: An armor variant would be sweeeeeet. Then tankers would cry OP and we could all have a good laugh. There should be an AV laser-eqsue weapon. There would be massive tears.
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 438	Posted - 2013.10.29 15:05:00 - [13] - Quote Chit Hoppened wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Chit Hoppened wrote: Roofer, thank you for that. And I wouldn't even give it a better damage. Maybe 40 more across the board. TOPS. Or give us a variant. I vote for variants. An armor variant would be sweeeeeet. Then tankers would cry OP and we could all have a good laugh. That'd be bad. But down right hilarious. I want a Burst Variant. Two 60% blobs. 10 ammo count (base). It'd be Proto only but it'd be soooooooooo awesome. Or how about a cycled with 33% damage to each. Almost like a cycled missle turret. Maybe a possible new heavy weapon? The Dust 514 AFK song
Cy Clone1 Cy CL0Ne 1 310	Posted - 2013.10.29 15:08:00 - [14] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Cy Clone1 wrote: the plasma cannon needs a faster projectile speed and more direct damage. its an av weapon yet it cant be used as such 1. It's not an AV weapon. 2. I eat shield tanks and LAVs for breakfast. 3. The projectile is fine. Learn how to lead your target. its not av? So your saying the only high direct damage weapon that has a benefit to shields isn't av!!! A weapon of high difficulty should have higher direct damage. I don't agree with increasing the splash radius because I think increasing projectile speed will already make it strong enough. It's over 9000!
Chit Hoppened Venomous Rat Regeneration Vendors 105	Posted - 2013.10.29 15:08:00 - [15] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: An armor variant would be sweeeeeet. Then tankers would cry OP and we could all have a good laugh. There should be an AV laser-eqsue weapon. There would be massive tears. That's how I see the Amarr Heavy Weapon being. Like a cross between the Laser Rifle and the Scrambler rifle. It'll shoot either a weak mini laser blast for a one second constant stream or you could charge it up to do a longer blast but it causes MASSIVE overheat. Bringing Heavy Metal to New Eden, one clone at a time.
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 129	Posted - 2013.10.29 15:08:00 - [16] - Quote i swear i read about 6 weeks ago the plc was being looked at as part of the r vehicle reworkl. anyone else recall this? now im glad i speced into the lolmando long ago, its shaping up nicely. main problem with it is the cpu/pg are to low. its made to carry 2 primary weapons AND equipment, but its hard to fit anything decent on the frames. slots are outta wack too. i suggests 1 low at STD, 1h 1L at ADV and 2h 2L at PRO. lets keep these commando threads coming. we've had it for 3 months and NOBODY uses it......yet
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 506	Posted - 2013.10.29 15:08:00 - [17] - Quote Plasma cannon just needs more direct impact damage Commando should get 1 low slot at basic since it currently goes from no slots at basic to 2 at advanced then 3 with proto I'd also like the shield regen to not be as slow as it currently is Commando is also the most expensive suit for some reason so if the price was made the same as the sentinel that would be nice to
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 439	Posted - 2013.10.29 15:12:00 - [18] - Quote Cy Clone1 wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Cy Clone1 wrote: the plasma cannon needs a faster projectile speed and more direct damage. its an av weapon yet it cant be used as such 1. It's not an AV weapon. 2. I eat shield tanks and LAVs for breakfast. 3. The projectile is fine. Learn how to lead your target. its not av? So your saying the only high direct damage weapon that has a benefit to shields isn't av!!! A weapon of high difficulty should have higher direct damage. I don't agree with increasing the splash radius because I think increasing projectile speed will already make it strong enough. I'm saying it's not AV because it's not AV. The bonus to shields makes is useful against shield vehicles. The direct damage is already over 1000. What exactly were you looking for? Not sure if this is a troll or not. High difficulty doesn't mean you get to one shot vehicles. It's just a light weapon afterall. The heavies will eventually get their shield bonus weapon for vehicles. The Dust 514 AFK song
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 530	Posted - 2013.10.29 15:13:00 - [19] - Quote Chit Hoppened wrote: That's how I see the Amarr Heavy Weapon being. Like a cross between the Laser Rifle and the Scrambler rifle. It'll shoot either a weak mini laser blast for a one second constant stream or you could charge it up to do a longer blast but it causes MASSIVE overheat. And that is exactly how I envision it.
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 439	Posted - 2013.10.29 15:14:00 - [20] - Quote pyramidhead 420 wrote: i swear i read about 6 weeks ago the plc was being looked at as part of the r vehicle reworkl. anyone else recall this? now im glad i speced into the lolmando long ago, its shaping up nicely. main problem with it is the cpu/pg are to low. its made to carry 2 primary weapons AND equipment, but its hard to fit anything decent on the frames. slots are outta wack too. i suggests 1 low at STD, 1h 1L at ADV and 2h 2L at PRO. lets keep these commando threads coming. we've had it for 3 months and NOBODY uses it......yet If they move my PLC from being the Proto/Heavy killer that it is and turn it into an AV weapon then I will have lost the only weapon in this game I still have enthusiasm for.... Please don't CCP. The Dust 514 AFK song

Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 439	Posted - 2013.10.29 15:17:00 - [21] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Plasma cannon just needs more direct impact damage Commando should get 1 low slot at basic since it currently goes from no slots at basic to 2 at advanced then 3 with proto I'd also like the shield regen to not be as slow as it currently is Commando is also the most expensive suit for some reason so if the price was made the same as the sentinel that would be nice to You do realize that with max prof. and damage mods you can do over 1500 direct / 500 splash? The Dust 514 AFK song
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 129	Posted - 2013.10.29 15:22:00 - [22] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: pyramidhead 420 wrote: i swear i read about 6 weeks ago the plc was being looked at as part of the r vehicle reworkl. anyone else recall this? now im glad i speced into the lolmando long ago, its shaping up nicely. main problem with it is the cpu/pg are to low. its made to carry 2 primary weapons AND equipment, but its hard to fit anything decent on the frames. slots are outta wack too. i suggests 1 low at STD, 1h 1L at ADV and 2h 2L at PRO. lets keep these commando threads coming. we've had it for 3 months and NOBODY uses it......yet If they move my PLC from being the Proto/Heavy killer that it is and turn it into an AV weapon then I will have lost the only weapon in this game I still have enthusiasm for.... Please don't CCP. i dont think it was being turned into anything (they didnt directly say that) i was understanding it to mean, thats just happen to be, when it would get its "review" but the underlying message could be what you said, " plc + vehicle rework = new PLC / AV weapon
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 507	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:10:00 - [23] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Plasma cannon just needs more direct impact damage Commando should get 1 low slot at basic since it currently goes from no slots at basic to 2 at advanced then 3 with proto I'd also like the shield regen to not be as slow as it currently is Commando is also the most expensive suit for some reason so if the price was made the same as the sentinel that would be nice to You do realize that with max prof. and damage mods you can do over 1500 direct / 500 splash? I don't see how you can get 500 splash, and how does that relate to what I said?
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9763	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:17:00 - [24] - Quote I say have the PLC shot has a sticky mechanic and have it do this when it hits vehicles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3ZLGCN0iEw CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \= Minmatar Assault and Logistics =// Unlocked.
Eversor Beercase Beer For Evil Mercs 68	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:19:00 - [25] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Don't you dare turn my beloved Plasma Cannon into a Noobtube by increasing splash. Just fix the problems with the splash it already has not registering/misfires/lag between sidearm and PLC and maybe scale up the damage a bit better from STD to PROTO. That is all it needs. I'm with Roofer on this one. Also Commando dropsuits should be a bit cheaper than they are right now.
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 444	Posted - 2013.10.29 18:24:00 - [26] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Plasma cannon just needs more direct impact damage Commando should get 1 low slot at basic since it currently goes from no slots at basic to 2 at advanced then 3 with proto I'd also like the shield regen to not be as slow as it currently is Commando is also the most expensive suit for some reason so if the price was made the same as the sentinel that would be nice to You do realize that with max prof. and damage mods you can do over 1500 direct / 500 splash? I don't see how you can get 500 splash, and how does that relate to what I said? You said it needs more direct damage. I'm saying it doesn't. And PRO + complex damage mods + max prof. is about 437 or so. My bad. Not exactly 500 but still pretty damn good. The Dust 514 AFK song
Jadek Menaheim WarRavens League of Infamy 185	Posted - 2013.10.29 21:16:00 - [27] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I say have the PLC shot has a sticky mechanic and have it do this when it hits vehicles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3ZLGCN0iEw cept it would chew through the tank armor if its not tanked against. I wouldn't mind seeing specific plating modules that offer greater resistances to particular types of AV weaponry and weaknesses to other variants. T¦ì¦Ä¦ê-ä¦É-ü¦É¦ç¦ö-î¦ú¦£¦¦¦¥¦¦¦Ö¦á¦º-ê¦¦r-è-é-¥-è¦ç-â-î-å-¢¦+¦¿¦+-ö¦¦-Ö¦»¦¦-ô-£¦£u¦ô¦+¦ê¦+¦É-å¦à-¢¦Ä¦¢¦P¦+-ò-ê-Ä¦ù¦á¦»¦¦¦ÿs¦ô-ü-ä¦Æ¦Æ¦Ç-á¦ò-¢¦ö¦ñ¦¼¦¦-à¦¥-Ü¦á-ì¦£¦¦T¦î¦è¦ë¦É¦ô¦ü-ù-¥¦ä-ù-ô¦¦-ö¦¡¦½¦¦¦«-û-ê¦á
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3404	Posted - 2013.10.29 21:18:00 - [28] - Quote I'm really happy for the 150 hp buff to Commando HP (187.5 hp buff with max skills), but I agree the shield recharge rate still needs to be looked at. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Roldrage The Plasma Cannon Doctrine 231	Posted - 2013.10.29 21:29:00 - [29] - Quote Prof. 5 helps the plc a lot >:) Founder of the Cannon Fever chat channel for plasma cannon users, join now for fun plasma related times!
Alldin Kan MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 740	Posted - 2013.10.29 21:31:00 - [30] - Quote Roldrage wrote: Prof. 5 helps the plc a lot >:) Damage is still bad, I'm better off with a shotgun or a scrambler rifle. Dawww, all they want is cookies. LOL Commando LOL Plasma Cannon

Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 671	Posted - 2013.10.29 21:33:00 - [31] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: How about increasing the splash radius and projectile speed? I can do more damage multiple times with a scrambler rifle charge shot, scrambler pistol headshot, and a shotgun. The Commando buff was nice but the shield regen of 10 is still ugly to look at (just raise it to 17 HP/s). Placon is fine, it can OHK almost anyone, but takes skill. Commando is getting a significant buff, wait to see it in action before you ask for more. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Burner of faces.
Cosgar ParagonX 6792	Posted - 2013.10.29 21:36:00 - [32] - Quote Give the PLC a lingering DoT effect. Make it a true area denial weapon. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Alldin Kan MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 740	Posted - 2013.10.29 21:39:00 - [33] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: How about increasing the splash radius and projectile speed? I can do more damage multiple times with a scrambler rifle charge shot, scrambler pistol headshot, and a shotgun. The Commando buff was nice but the shield regen of 10 is still ugly to look at (just raise it to 17 HP/s). Placon is fine, it can OHK almost anyone, but takes skill. Commando is getting a significant buff, wait to see it in action before you ask for more. Yet I've only seen one player seriously use it against me in a skillful manner, he still went negative. Dawww, all they want is cookies. LOL Commando LOL Plasma Cannon
Joel II X AHPA 80	Posted - 2013.10.29 21:43:00 - [34] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: Splash damage is noob talk, see flaylock for example. Yeah, but that's a sidearm. When it comes to your main weapon, I think it's a little different.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 671	Posted - 2013.10.29 21:58:00 - [35] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: How about increasing the splash radius and projectile speed? I can do more damage multiple times with a scrambler rifle charge shot, scrambler pistol headshot, and a shotgun. The Commando buff was nice but the shield regen of 10 is still ugly to look at (just raise it to 17 HP/s). Placon is fine, it can OHK almost anyone, but takes skill. Commando is getting a significant buff, wait to see it in action before you ask for more. Yet I've only seen one player seriously use it against me in a skillful manner, he still went negative. I almost always go positive with mine. I usually go about 10-2 but I get the odd 20-1 now and again. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Burner of faces.
Alldin Kan MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 741	Posted - 2013.10.29 22:01:00 - [36] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: How about increasing the splash radius and projectile speed? I can do more damage multiple times with a scrambler rifle charge shot, scrambler pistol headshot, and a shotgun. The Commando buff was nice but the shield regen of 10 is still ugly to look at (just raise it to 17 HP/s). Placon is fine, it can OHK almost anyone, but takes skill. Commando is getting a significant buff, wait to see it in action before you ask for more. Yet I've only seen one player seriously use it against me in a skillful manner, he still went negative. I almost always go positive with mine. I usually go about 10-2 but I get the odd 20-1 now and again. I get an average of 35 kills per game on my other fits. Dawww, all they want is cookies. LOL Commando LOL Plasma Cannon
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 671	Posted - 2013.10.29 22:02:00 - [37] - Quote Joel II X wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Splash damage is noob talk, see flaylock for example. Yeah, but that's a sidearm. When it comes to your main weapon, I think it's a little different. Nope. Placon is a skill weapon. Large Splash effects don't belong on it. I don't care how badly you want to be awesome with a Placon, you need to be good to do it, not rely on easy mode splash. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Burner of faces.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 671	Posted - 2013.10.29 22:04:00 - [38] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: How about increasing the splash radius and projectile speed? I can do more damage multiple times with a scrambler rifle charge shot, scrambler pistol headshot, and a shotgun. The Commando buff was nice but the shield regen of 10 is still ugly to look at (just raise it to 17 HP/s). Placon is fine, it can OHK almost anyone, but takes skill. Commando is getting a significant buff, wait to see it in action before you ask for more. Yet I've only seen one player seriously use it against me in a skillful manner, he still went negative. I almost always go positive with mine. I usually go about 10-2 but I get the odd 20-1 now and again. I get an average of 35 kills per game on my other fits. Then get good with the plasma cannon. It is a weapon that takes your skill and gives you results based on it. If you are as good of a player as your 35 kills per game says you are, the high skill requirement of the Placon shouldn't deter you. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Burner of faces.
Alldin Kan MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 741	Posted - 2013.10.29 22:45:00 - [39] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Then get good with the plasma cannon. It is a weapon that takes your skill and gives you results based on it. If you are as good of a player as your 35 kills per game says you are, the high skill requirement of the Placon shouldn't deter you. What I'm trying to say is that all other light weapons are far better than the PC, even the laser rifle can be more useful than this thing. A splash radius and projectile speed increase is mandatory for this weapon. Dawww, all they want is cookies. LOL Commando LOL Plasma Cannon
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 673	Posted - 2013.10.29 23:21:00 - [40] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Then get good with the plasma cannon. It is a weapon that takes your skill and gives you results based on it. If you are as good of a player as your 35 kills per game says you are, the high skill requirement of the Placon shouldn't deter you. What I'm trying to say is that all other light weapons are far better than the PC, even the laser rifle can be more useful than this thing. A splash radius and projectile speed increase is mandatory for this weapon. All other light weapons, except the Swarms and Mass Driver (which I personally consider both the most easy mode weapons in the game) can't effectively destroy vehicles or installations. The Placon is the second most versatile weapon in the game, except Forge Guns, which are getting nerfed, so it might soon be the single most versatile weapon in the game. Generally speaking, the Placon sacrifices almost all of its ease of use, to be extremely versatile. It isn't meant to be a slayer weapon, and it is working as intended. I don't get why you say all other light weapons are better than it. Its better than an AR at blowing up turrets, and better than a swarm launcher for killing people. Its a weapon without a niche. If you are looking to shoot and kill just people, there are many other options for doing that. If you want to be able to shoot everything, look no further than the Placon or Forge Gun. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Burner of faces.

Commander KaBOOM The Eliminators 18	Posted - 2013.10.29 23:58:00 - [41] - Quote No, please do not touch the plasma. It works perfectly fine as it is, and if they change it it'll just become FOTM! Don't change my beloved plasma!
Alldin Kan MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 741	Posted - 2013.10.30 00:01:00 - [42] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Then get good with the plasma cannon. It is a weapon that takes your skill and gives you results based on it. If you are as good of a player as your 35 kills per game says you are, the high skill requirement of the Placon shouldn't deter you. What I'm trying to say is that all other light weapons are far better than the PC, even the laser rifle can be more useful than this thing. A splash radius and projectile speed increase is mandatory for this weapon. All other light weapons, except the Swarms and Mass Driver (which I personally consider both the most easy mode weapons in the game) can't effectively destroy vehicles or installations. The Placon is the second most versatile weapon in the game, except Forge Guns, which are getting nerfed, so it might soon be the single most versatile weapon in the game. Generally speaking, the Placon sacrifices almost all of its ease of use, to be extremely versatile. It isn't meant to be a slayer weapon, and it is working as intended. I don't get why you say all other light weapons are better than it. Its better than an AR at blowing up turrets, and better than a swarm launcher for killing people. Its a weapon without a niche. If you are looking to shoot and kill just people, there are many other options for doing that. If you want to be able to shoot everything, look no further than the Placon or Forge Gun. The direct damage for PC is so bad right now that it can'y really be used to blow up vehicles other than militia and its splash radius is terrible, so no, it's not versatile at this moment. Your comments keep suggesting that you're merely a regular player on Dust, that's concerning. Dawww, all they want is cookies. LOL Commando LOL Plasma Cannon
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 673	Posted - 2013.10.30 00:08:00 - [43] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Then get good with the plasma cannon. It is a weapon that takes your skill and gives you results based on it. If you are as good of a player as your 35 kills per game says you are, the high skill requirement of the Placon shouldn't deter you. What I'm trying to say is that all other light weapons are far better than the PC, even the laser rifle can be more useful than this thing. A splash radius and projectile speed increase is mandatory for this weapon. All other light weapons, except the Swarms and Mass Driver (which I personally consider both the most easy mode weapons in the game) can't effectively destroy vehicles or installations. The Placon is the second most versatile weapon in the game, except Forge Guns, which are getting nerfed, so it might soon be the single most versatile weapon in the game. Generally speaking, the Placon sacrifices almost all of its ease of use, to be extremely versatile. It isn't meant to be a slayer weapon, and it is working as intended. I don't get why you say all other light weapons are better than it. Its better than an AR at blowing up turrets, and better than a swarm launcher for killing people. Its a weapon without a niche. If you are looking to shoot and kill just people, there are many other options for doing that. If you want to be able to shoot everything, look no further than the Placon or Forge Gun. The direct damage for PC is so bad right now that it can'y really be used to blow up vehicles other than militia and its splash radius is terrible, so no, it's not versatile at this moment. Your comments keep suggesting that you're merely a regular player on Dust, that's concerning. The only buff to the Plasma cannon I would be happy with is a direct damage increase. But that said, I would rather have a critical bonus for vehicles, so that when you hit an HAVs weak spot it would cause some massive damage. And yes, I'm not a top player, but I've been using the Placon as a main for long enough to know what would make it OP. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Burner of faces.
DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2329	Posted - 2013.10.30 00:22:00 - [44] - Quote The only thing wrong with the Plasma Cannon are the glitches and bugs, as well as there not being a reason to spec up past basic. "It's because of people like you that I became this. And you'll never give me a reason to become someone else."
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 675	Posted - 2013.10.30 00:31:00 - [45] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: The only thing wrong with the Plasma Cannon are the glitches and bugs, as well as there not being a reason to spec up past basic. A faster reload for Adv. And Pro. Placons would fix that. Edit: No. That's too much. Maybe more ammo for higher tiers would be better. I don't even feel right with that though. I am strongly against a buff to Plasma Cannons. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Burner of faces.
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 365	Posted - 2013.10.30 00:38:00 - [46] - Quote Half the projectile speed. Put the splash radius to 0. Bump damage up to 20'000. See what happens. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Joel II X AHPA 80	Posted - 2013.10.30 03:21:00 - [47] - Quote Spademan wrote: Half the projectile speed. Put the splash radius to 0. Bump damage up to 20'000. See what happens. It would probably only be used on tanks or dumb DS pilots lol
I-Shayz-I 1190	Posted - 2013.10.30 03:25:00 - [48] - Quote Honestly, there just need to be two rounds in the thing before you reload, or an assault variant like this. List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos! (Insert future link here)
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 679	Posted - 2013.10.30 03:29:00 - [49] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Honestly, there just need to be two rounds in the thing before you reload, or an assault variant like this. Nope. Missing with a OKH weapon is supposed to be punishing. This would be OK if the direct damage for each shot was >500 on a variant like this, and it used even more CPU. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Burner of faces.


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