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Alldin Kan
MoIden Heath PoIice Department
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.29 14:47:00 -
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How about increasing the splash radius and projectile speed? I can do more damage multiple times with a scrambler rifle charge shot, scrambler pistol headshot, and a shotgun.
The Commando buff was nice but the shield regen of 10 is still ugly to look at (just raise it to 17 HP/s).
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Doc Noah
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
781
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Posted - 2013.10.29 14:49:00 -
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Didnt they already increase projectile speed last patch? |
JL3Eleven
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Posted - 2013.10.29 14:49:00 -
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Splash damage is noob talk, see flaylock for example.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.29 14:53:00 -
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Of course you can do more damage with a Scrambler. I'm not sure how that makes a valid balancing analogy to the PlaC. |
Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.10.29 14:55:00 -
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Don't you dare turn my beloved Plasma Cannon into a Noobtube by increasing splash. Just fix the problems with the splash it already has not registering/misfires/lag between sidearm and PLC and maybe scale up the damage a bit better from STD to PROTO. That is all it needs.
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Cy Clone1
Cy CL0Ne 1
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Posted - 2013.10.29 14:56:00 -
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the plasma cannon needs a faster projectile speed and more direct damage. its an av weapon yet it cant be used as such
It's over 9000!
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Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.10.29 14:58:00 -
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Cy Clone1 wrote:the plasma cannon needs a faster projectile speed and more direct damage. its an av weapon yet it cant be used as such
1. It's not an AV weapon.
2. I eat shield tanks and LAVs for breakfast.
3. The projectile is fine. Learn how to lead your target.
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Chit Hoppened
Venomous Rat Regeneration Vendors
103
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Posted - 2013.10.29 14:59:00 -
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Roofer, thank you for that.
And I wouldn't even give it a better damage.
Maybe 40 more across the board.
TOPS.
Or give us a variant.
I vote for variants.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1923
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Posted - 2013.10.29 14:59:00 -
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Cy Clone1 wrote:the plasma cannon needs a faster projectile speed and more direct damage. its an av weapon yet it cant be used as such
Is it AV? Sure it can do reasonable damage, but so can a HMG. |
Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
438
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Posted - 2013.10.29 14:59:00 -
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Chit Hoppened wrote:Roofer, thank you for that.
And I wouldn't even give it a better damage.
Maybe 40 more across the board.
TOPS.
Or give us a variant.
I vote for variants.
An armor variant would be sweeeeeet. Then tankers would cry OP and we could all have a good laugh.
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Chit Hoppened
Venomous Rat Regeneration Vendors
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Posted - 2013.10.29 15:03:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Chit Hoppened wrote:Roofer, thank you for that.
And I wouldn't even give it a better damage.
Maybe 40 more across the board.
TOPS.
Or give us a variant.
I vote for variants. An armor variant would be sweeeeeet. Then tankers would cry OP and we could all have a good laugh.
That'd be bad.
But down right hilarious.
I want a Burst Variant.
Two 60% blobs. 10 ammo count (base).
It'd be Proto only but it'd be soooooooooo awesome.
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
528
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Posted - 2013.10.29 15:04:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:
An armor variant would be sweeeeeet. Then tankers would cry OP and we could all have a good laugh.
There should be an AV laser-eqsue weapon. There would be massive tears.
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Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
438
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Posted - 2013.10.29 15:05:00 -
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Chit Hoppened wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Chit Hoppened wrote:Roofer, thank you for that.
And I wouldn't even give it a better damage.
Maybe 40 more across the board.
TOPS.
Or give us a variant.
I vote for variants. An armor variant would be sweeeeeet. Then tankers would cry OP and we could all have a good laugh. That'd be bad. But down right hilarious. I want a Burst Variant. Two 60% blobs. 10 ammo count (base). It'd be Proto only but it'd be soooooooooo awesome.
Or how about a cycled with 33% damage to each. Almost like a cycled missle turret. Maybe a possible new heavy weapon?
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Cy Clone1
Cy CL0Ne 1
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Posted - 2013.10.29 15:08:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Cy Clone1 wrote:the plasma cannon needs a faster projectile speed and more direct damage. its an av weapon yet it cant be used as such 1. It's not an AV weapon. 2. I eat shield tanks and LAVs for breakfast. 3. The projectile is fine. Learn how to lead your target.
its not av? So your saying the only high direct damage weapon that has a benefit to shields isn't av!!! A weapon of high difficulty should have higher direct damage. I don't agree with increasing the splash radius because I think increasing projectile speed will already make it strong enough.
It's over 9000!
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Chit Hoppened
Venomous Rat Regeneration Vendors
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Posted - 2013.10.29 15:08:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:
An armor variant would be sweeeeeet. Then tankers would cry OP and we could all have a good laugh.
There should be an AV laser-eqsue weapon. There would be massive tears.
That's how I see the Amarr Heavy Weapon being.
Like a cross between the Laser Rifle and the Scrambler rifle.
It'll shoot either a weak mini laser blast for a one second constant stream or you could charge it up to do a longer blast but it causes MASSIVE overheat.
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pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7
CRONOS.
129
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Posted - 2013.10.29 15:08:00 -
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i swear i read about 6 weeks ago the plc was being looked at as part of the r vehicle reworkl. anyone else recall this?
now im glad i speced into the lolmando long ago, its shaping up nicely. main problem with it is the cpu/pg are to low. its made to carry 2 primary weapons AND equipment, but its hard to fit anything decent on the frames. slots are outta wack too. i suggests 1 low at STD, 1h 1L at ADV and 2h 2L at PRO.
lets keep these commando threads coming. we've had it for 3 months and NOBODY uses it......yet |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
506
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Posted - 2013.10.29 15:08:00 -
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Plasma cannon just needs more direct impact damage
Commando should get 1 low slot at basic since it currently goes from no slots at basic to 2 at advanced then 3 with proto
I'd also like the shield regen to not be as slow as it currently is
Commando is also the most expensive suit for some reason so if the price was made the same as the sentinel that would be nice to |
Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
439
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Posted - 2013.10.29 15:12:00 -
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Cy Clone1 wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Cy Clone1 wrote:the plasma cannon needs a faster projectile speed and more direct damage. its an av weapon yet it cant be used as such 1. It's not an AV weapon. 2. I eat shield tanks and LAVs for breakfast. 3. The projectile is fine. Learn how to lead your target. its not av? So your saying the only high direct damage weapon that has a benefit to shields isn't av!!! A weapon of high difficulty should have higher direct damage. I don't agree with increasing the splash radius because I think increasing projectile speed will already make it strong enough.
I'm saying it's not AV because it's not AV. The bonus to shields makes is useful against shield vehicles. The direct damage is already over 1000. What exactly were you looking for? Not sure if this is a troll or not. High difficulty doesn't mean you get to one shot vehicles. It's just a light weapon afterall. The heavies will eventually get their shield bonus weapon for vehicles.
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2013.10.29 15:13:00 -
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Chit Hoppened wrote:
That's how I see the Amarr Heavy Weapon being.
Like a cross between the Laser Rifle and the Scrambler rifle.
It'll shoot either a weak mini laser blast for a one second constant stream or you could charge it up to do a longer blast but it causes MASSIVE overheat.
And that is exactly how I envision it. |
Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.10.29 15:14:00 -
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pyramidhead 420 wrote:i swear i read about 6 weeks ago the plc was being looked at as part of the r vehicle reworkl. anyone else recall this?
now im glad i speced into the lolmando long ago, its shaping up nicely. main problem with it is the cpu/pg are to low. its made to carry 2 primary weapons AND equipment, but its hard to fit anything decent on the frames. slots are outta wack too. i suggests 1 low at STD, 1h 1L at ADV and 2h 2L at PRO.
lets keep these commando threads coming. we've had it for 3 months and NOBODY uses it......yet
If they move my PLC from being the Proto/Heavy killer that it is and turn it into an AV weapon then I will have lost the only weapon in this game I still have enthusiasm for.... Please don't CCP.
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Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.10.29 15:17:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Plasma cannon just needs more direct impact damage
Commando should get 1 low slot at basic since it currently goes from no slots at basic to 2 at advanced then 3 with proto
I'd also like the shield regen to not be as slow as it currently is
Commando is also the most expensive suit for some reason so if the price was made the same as the sentinel that would be nice to
You do realize that with max prof. and damage mods you can do over 1500 direct / 500 splash?
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pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.10.29 15:22:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:pyramidhead 420 wrote:i swear i read about 6 weeks ago the plc was being looked at as part of the r vehicle reworkl. anyone else recall this?
now im glad i speced into the lolmando long ago, its shaping up nicely. main problem with it is the cpu/pg are to low. its made to carry 2 primary weapons AND equipment, but its hard to fit anything decent on the frames. slots are outta wack too. i suggests 1 low at STD, 1h 1L at ADV and 2h 2L at PRO.
lets keep these commando threads coming. we've had it for 3 months and NOBODY uses it......yet If they move my PLC from being the Proto/Heavy killer that it is and turn it into an AV weapon then I will have lost the only weapon in this game I still have enthusiasm for.... Please don't CCP.
i dont think it was being turned into anything (they didnt directly say that) i was understanding it to mean, thats just happen to be, when it would get its "review"
but the underlying message could be what you said, " plc + vehicle rework = new PLC / AV weapon
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
507
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Posted - 2013.10.29 17:10:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Plasma cannon just needs more direct impact damage
Commando should get 1 low slot at basic since it currently goes from no slots at basic to 2 at advanced then 3 with proto
I'd also like the shield regen to not be as slow as it currently is
Commando is also the most expensive suit for some reason so if the price was made the same as the sentinel that would be nice to You do realize that with max prof. and damage mods you can do over 1500 direct / 500 splash?
I don't see how you can get 500 splash, and how does that relate to what I said? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.10.29 17:17:00 -
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I say have the PLC shot has a sticky mechanic and have it do this when it hits vehicles
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Eversor Beercase
Beer For Evil Mercs
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Posted - 2013.10.29 17:19:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Don't you dare turn my beloved Plasma Cannon into a Noobtube by increasing splash. Just fix the problems with the splash it already has not registering/misfires/lag between sidearm and PLC and maybe scale up the damage a bit better from STD to PROTO. That is all it needs.
I'm with Roofer on this one.
Also Commando dropsuits should be a bit cheaper than they are right now. |
Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.10.29 18:24:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Plasma cannon just needs more direct impact damage
Commando should get 1 low slot at basic since it currently goes from no slots at basic to 2 at advanced then 3 with proto
I'd also like the shield regen to not be as slow as it currently is
Commando is also the most expensive suit for some reason so if the price was made the same as the sentinel that would be nice to You do realize that with max prof. and damage mods you can do over 1500 direct / 500 splash? I don't see how you can get 500 splash, and how does that relate to what I said?
You said it needs more direct damage. I'm saying it doesn't.
And PRO + complex damage mods + max prof. is about 437 or so. My bad. Not exactly 500 but still pretty damn good.
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Jadek Menaheim
WarRavens
League of Infamy
185
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Posted - 2013.10.29 21:16:00 -
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I wouldn't mind seeing specific plating modules that offer greater resistances to particular types of AV weaponry and weaknesses to other variants.
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3404
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Posted - 2013.10.29 21:18:00 -
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I'm really happy for the 150 hp buff to Commando HP (187.5 hp buff with max skills), but I agree the shield recharge rate still needs to be looked at.
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Roldrage
The Plasma Cannon Doctrine
231
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Posted - 2013.10.29 21:29:00 -
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Prof. 5 helps the plc a lot >:)
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Alldin Kan
MoIden Heath PoIice Department
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.29 21:31:00 -
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Roldrage wrote:Prof. 5 helps the plc a lot >:)
Damage is still bad, I'm better off with a shotgun or a scrambler rifle.
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