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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
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Posted - 2013.10.29 12:04:00 -
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Heavy HP 405/405 ---> 480/480 which is an 18% bump in HP
Commando HP 250/250 ----> 325/325 which is a 30%(!) bump in HP
Repair tool buff: now 40/60/70 hp/s
Forge Gun splash nerf: STD 2.5m -> 1.5m, ADV 2.75m -> 1.8m, PRO 3m -> 2.1m
First, I'm excited about the HP buff because it fits with the primary role of Heavies, which is to tank n' spank. An 18% bump in HP isn't as effective as a 2% reduction in small arms fire/level, but it should help with our survivability.
Commando has been upgraded from near useless to possibly serviceable. I would have preferred more module slots, but a 30% bump in total HP is pretty huge. We'll see how this plays out.
Repair Tool buff means the old fattie/logi combo is now more effective. Now if only CCP can figure out a way to get Logis to start playing as Logis...
Why am I happy about the Forge Gun change?
1) They left splash damage the same.
2) It's still pinpoint accurate.
3) It still does all of its ferocious base damage.
4) It keeps the wannabe fattie scrubs from using the weapon.
Forge Gun sniping SHOULD be a skillshot. And it still will be. The proto tier now has slightly less splash range than the previous standard grade, and I never had a problem with the range of standard. This is about the tamest of nerfs we could have hoped for.
Last, CCP is promising a massive content update for 1.7. If they actually get their **** together and deliver on that promise, we may FINALLY be seeing the rest of our racial fat suits. I may have to stop being such a biting, sardonic ass toward them if it actually comes true.
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2013.10.29 12:06:00 -
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I stopped reading after the remark about the Commando. I promise you. The Commando is one of the most underrated suits in Dust 514. Those that I have slain with it will agree. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.29 12:09:00 -
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Now they just need to fix the HMG. 
Level 4 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
154
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Posted - 2013.10.29 13:03:00 -
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Quote:CCP Finally got a taste for fattie love
Once you go fat you never go back. |
BrownEye1129
Death In Xcess Corporation
111
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Posted - 2013.10.29 13:08:00 -
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Yes!!! The fatties will be back!! I get to rep fatties again! |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
903
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Posted - 2013.10.29 13:09:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:I stopped reading after the remark about the Commando. I promise you. The Commando is one of the most underrated suits in Dust 514. Those that I have slain with it will agree.
Then you likely left a happy stain in your pants upon reading the patch notes. 
I'm not totally ignorant of the Commando's benefits, I just don't respect them. Double Swarm Launcher or Double Masshole fits are annoyingly effective, they're just cheap.
In the future, Scrambler Rifle + Combat Rifle could be neat. Melt shields and then armor. But if you have any other secret sauce you'd like to share, your fattie brethren could use some enlightenment.
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
527
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Posted - 2013.10.29 13:11:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:Then you likely left a happy stain in your pants upon reading the patch notes. I'm not totally ignorant of the Commando's benefits, I just don't respect them. Double Swarm Launcher or Double Masshole fits are annoyingly effective, they're just cheap. In the future, Scrambler Rifle + Combat Rifle could be neat. Melt shields and then armor. But if you have any other secret sauce you'd like to share, your fattie brethren could use some enlightenment.
I enjoyed reading the health buff.
I also agree. Double Mass Drivers is cheap. I personally use AR/LR or SCR and LR. |
Jade Dragonis
GRIM MARCH
248
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Posted - 2013.10.29 13:17:00 -
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So does that mean with lvl 5 prof in shield and armor it gies to 600/600? Without plates?
Forged again? Your welcome.
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
903
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Posted - 2013.10.29 13:35:00 -
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Jade Dragonis wrote:So does that mean with lvl 5 prof in shield and armor it gies to 600/600? Without plates?
Yup. 
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Jade Dragonis
GRIM MARCH
249
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Posted - 2013.10.29 14:10:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:Jade Dragonis wrote:So does that mean with lvl 5 prof in shield and armor it gies to 600/600? Without plates? Yup.
Ooooooo. Plus my 4 com armour plates. Yuuuuuummmmmmyyyy
Forged again? Your welcome.
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
787
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Posted - 2013.10.29 14:13:00 -
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hell, I may try out the heavy suit again.
but probably not. |
Jade Dragonis
GRIM MARCH
249
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Posted - 2013.10.29 14:15:00 -
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low genius wrote:hell, I may try out the heavy suit again.
but probably not.
Heavy with an upcoming rail rifle. :-) nerf hammer to follow. Lol
Forged again? Your welcome.
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Pent'noir
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.29 14:23:00 -
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It's nice to see the buff since I plan on revisiting the forge. I already usually run an ar heavy, so more hp is always good for that. Maybe i'll revisit the hmg. |
Kam Elto
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
104
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Posted - 2013.10.29 15:02:00 -
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It's a step in the right direction. But they should have buffed the HMG damage. The SMG shouldn't be doing more damage than the HMG. It shoots pistol rounds. |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
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Posted - 2013.10.29 15:53:00 -
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Kam Elto wrote:It's a step in the right direction. But they should have buffed the HMG damage. The SMG shouldn't be doing more damage than the HMG. It shoots pistol rounds.
The SMG doesn't...
SMG base DPS is 383, while the HMG base DPS is 600.
The HMG actually spits out more damage than any other infantry weapon in the game, save the breach shotgun. (It actually beats most light turrets.) The problem is that it only does that damage at knife-fighting range. That dispersion is killer.
I've often wondered what the gun would feel like if they introduced the same Sharpshooter dispersion skill for HMG that the AR and SMG already have. I bet it'd go a long way to fixing it.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2013.10.29 16:47:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:if they introduced the same Sharpshooter dispersion skill for HMG that the AR and SMG already have.
This, this, MFing THIS. Nail on the GD head.
The HMG changed after Chromosome, no doubt.
But, it is not broken. It is more situational and requiring better tactics than it was before, but not broken.
It is not strictly a point denfense weapon as so many people on here like to suggest. Don't believe me? Get on my back and I'll carry your monkey *** into that red objective so that you can hack it, princess.
Repper buffs? Oh, **** yes.
Logis, message me in-game and we'll do some mutual back scratching.
Steve Guttenberg Lives!
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