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virgindestroyer7
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.05 21:43:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:I would like to reiterate my point, the CPM has not worked and CCP themselves have stated thus at the start of this thread.
Q&As, alliance chats and the like are not the issue, its a puppet show of a group of people who are both powerless and universally disregarded therefore why persist in trying to make this work?
Calling time on it right now before it perpetuates and becomes like the CSM where people are turning up with an agenda of their own to benefit the few is a massive risk to the commercial success of this game.
Already the community is polarised around this topic and the attitudes shown are frankly unprofessional and disrespectful of the granted position that was given. What makes it worse is the frankly shameful way the CPM are digging their fingernails into the door frame as the community collectively calls for this to end.
CCP your marketing gimmick is backfiring, perhaps its time to act before this becomes the news story......
I think you're mistaken. The community is not calling for and end, they're calling for the CPM to actually be able to do more. They do the best they can but there are so many restrictions on what they can say or do its very frustrating.
Most of the CPM are active on the forums and in the community, helping to explain and elaborate things we have questions on that we find important that CCP doesn't or just don't have the time for.
I take full advantage of them, asking them to squad with my corp, asking them to join the events that I promote. I make sure that anyone I come in contact with that has in depth questions about this game, what's coming, needs elaboration on things and even just wants a way to reach out to the CPM has every opportunity to because I'm so sure of their place within this game and community.
The CPM is invaluable, I appreciate what they've done so far and I stand behind them needing more from CCP. As a community we also should voice this so maybe, one day, they can be as effective as intended. |
virgindestroyer7
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.05 23:29:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:The majority of the community is calling for an end to this, go read the posts and see the significant disrespect out there for this group and this premise. Also go read CCP Dolans post at the front of this thread, he himself states it is not working. If CCP think its been a failure, why are you trying to defend a position that is untenable?
I was very aware when i decided to take this stance that i would come up against those who would not relinquish their soapbox of power easily (and their followers) but decided to do it as i get a huge volume of people mailing me asking what my thoughts are on the CPM concept... so here we are.
By their own admition there are groups forming right now with an agenda in mind to 'Fix scout suits' or to 'get tanks nerfed' etc etc i know because they some how feel they can buy my support so perhaps i do an election video for them and back them.
A flawed, corrupt and frankly pointless concept made by CCP so they can do a couple of good press items on it and wave a carrot on a stick over parts of the community.
Have some free will about you and show CCP they messed up and resign. Anything else is just eroding what little respect is left for you all.
I appreciate you having your own opinion and speaking up about it, however I still completely disagree and it's not because I'm a follower. Anyone in this community can tell you I don't follow. I think for myself, my corp and for my alliance and I don't just do because there is something to do. As a CEO, an alliance leader and a multiconsole 600+ clan leader following isn't an option.
The reason why I find the CPM so invaluable and stand behind them so is because I have first and second hand seen the impact of what they have done. Between setting up tournaments on their own spare time, their own experiences in EVE the game that one day we will be a bigger part of, how they (even as volunteers) work so hard at doing what's best for the community and not for themselves.
There is truth in what you are saying, that the CPM's who are non-active or unable to do their designations should have stepped down but this is new! The rules and guidelines are being made as we go and mistakes have and will be made.
The potential in this game is wonderful, I've been playing since June last year and through everything that CCP has done, I agree that the CPM was a good choice.
There are plenty of people who also agree and it is not because they are followers. They too have put time and energy in promoting, playing and working with this game to see where it is today and without the CPM's help we would be at a fraction of where we are now.
Just IMAGINE the possibilities if they could do more. If CCP allowed them to, if the lines of communication between not only CCP and them, but CPM and the community opened up more.
Any of the CPM's who need my support can ask for it from me. I'm happy to offer it and will continue to.
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virgindestroyer7
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
304
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Posted - 2013.11.05 23:32:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:No i read the post fine, Dolan states it has not worked as planned, therefore it failed. Sorry that's how i read it.
I see CPMs openly abusing players (even in this thread) something that is not fitting their position
I see alliance members now clamoring to keep the CPM alive so that it can be twisted to suit their agendas
To me and most of the community i think its an open and shut case that this marketing ploy is done and the wider community would be best served with more open groups of people providing feedback and give CCP the respect they deserve to develop their game as the last few patches and months have been excellent all round due to direct coms from CCP and NOT via the CPM.
The facts speak for themselves, the community is receptive to the 'new way' of regular coms, regular patches, posts and treads direct from the developers, remind me, why do we need a CPM anymore?
What community do you speak of? I participate in DRUNK NIGHT(which my corp actually runs with DSTheDrunkHeavy), Tdome514, squad cup tournament, FWand PC and I never have seen you around.
I'm curious as to who you find you are speaking for. |
virgindestroyer7
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.05 23:34:00 -
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Starfire Revo wrote:Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:Open question for the CPM / CCP Devs...
Would you be willing to come to Corp / Alliance Private Chat Channels to have town hall meetings with our members?
Let me elaborate:
1) Have one day a week or every other week that a Corp or Alliance can sign up wtih and you join our closed channel or we come to one you set up and we have a brief update on CPM / CCP actions and ellicit feedback and questions from the community writ large. I ran a live Q&A with Hans and Kane a while back. I'd be up for doing another if people are interested.
I would be interested Gimble. I know alot of people would be too. |
virgindestroyer7
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.05 23:52:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:but I know that I speak for those that agree with me here, when I say that the CPM does work, it just needs CCP to work with them better.
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