CPM= Crooked Poo Munchers

These clowns ONLY care about themselves and how to make the game better for THEM. They have done MORE damage then good. They requested changes that no one else wanted. I have NO RESPECT for these clowns. I will not stop until they are all bleeding out in a pile of poo.
Stop fking up the game and worry about ADDING NEW STUFF.

Seriously do we even need a CPM? surely with additions to CCP like logibro etc these are real dust players who get the game, why do we need to select a small unrepresentative group of players to be a focus group?

Do i need to spout marketing 101? - a focus group is something that changes each time you change the product......

CCP just keep the eve players happy with the CSM so they can feel important for once in their lives that they get to direct SPACE GAMES, dust i think isn't the same thing. Don't elevate a small group of people into 'hubris' - spread your focus group around, setup virtual groups and test a much wider sample of players

Just my 10 cents.

No problem IWS!

Vote for me why dont cha

Open question for the CPM / CCP Devs...

Would you be willing to come to Corp / Alliance Private Chat Channels to have town hall meetings with our members?

Let me elaborate:
1) Have one day a week or every other week that a Corp or Alliance can sign up wtih and you join our closed channel or we come to one you set up and we have a brief updated on CPM / CCP actions and ellicit feedback and questions from the community writ large.

2) The Corp leadership is responsible for making sure it's not a ptich fork and torches session...just conversation and information exchange from the community to their appointed / elected reps and maybe the guest star Dev.

If you are willing to take on this type fo engagement I would like to sign up OSG Planetary Operations to be your test case to see if this could be a positive practice for the CCP, CPM, and the community.

If not, then please let us know why you don't think that's feasible.

Thanks for your work...most of us wouldn't be on these forums if we didn't have a game that we weren't invested in and that is a credit to both CCP and CPM.

- jay

Thanks for the prompt response. I probably should have clarified...I know it's not practical to get the whole CPM togther. I was thinking along the lines of one or two that could essentially represent the CPM as a whole. Tell you what, I'll try to compile some key questions and get them sent over to you and would appreciate your response, if possible we work a window out where you can pop in with us and run some matches and chat with us...you game?

I appreciate the position you guys are in and the work you do. It's honestly difficult for me to "see" your work or the significance of interaction you may have with CCP but i've been actively trying to educate myself for the last month or so on it.

I don't remember the exact mechanics but Star Citizens had the functionality to offer up poles to their players to gather feedback. What made it more successful than what was suggested here was that when you answered the poll you got a reward (I think it was a few units of their equivalent to aurum).

Offer up the survey and give people something for completing it. 100 aurum? A few guns? 100k isk? 500 SP?

The thing to keep in mind is that if CCP were to implement any kind of in client survey system, it would be purely supplemental to the feedback they get from the CPM, and from what they get on the forums. It is by no means a viable replacement.

What are you doing this summer?

*Playing star conflict
*summer vacation
*something else

Jenza I was in the PC battle you awoxed Hellstorm in and watched Kujo teamkill you, as stated in my post it was something everyone knew about and if the problem would have been resolved by just talking to CCP and telling them that this needs to be done first, which we all did during CB, and had CCP listened rather than constantly leaving it till the majority of the game starts complaining about it on the forums we would have had roles 6 months sooner.

I'm not saying we didn't know about it (we being the CB and OB vets) but when it results in creating a situation where one group of individuals who are supposed to be in an advisory position to the devs, takes over a good portion of "Player Owned Space" through this kind of tactic as well as having some actually really good players it make many of us wonder just how many of the known exploits (to you and other CPM members) are going to be used against the rest of the players.

You can't deny you did it all you can deny is that it was unknown. Which I agree, was a widely know exploit that CCP said Soon TM rather than ok we see the issue it will be out in a Hot Fix like so many other things have been fixed (AR ROF for one). This line of communication needs to be clear and if the CPM and CCP can't agree on who what and how then maybe you shouldn't be representing players, maybe you should be sitting in front of your console in a new toon just to see what its like getting Proto killed by your own corp or Nyan Cyan or so many of the other corps running nothing but proto gear in all pub matches because they can afford to with PC districts giving them a constant flow of isk.

I still want that charter or you may as well just call the CPM a Dev Pet Club, no offense intended but at least if an idiot gets elected to a seat at the table, when elections come again we can vote him or her out, you guys have a job to do and I realize the ball is in CCPs court but maybe it takes two to argue and the CPM is partly to blame as well for not having a document that everyone can agree upon.