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Dachande Anasazi
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.10.28 16:24:00 -
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Back on topic...with the way things are..it seems like EVE guys will be mercs and we will need to hire them...We need them so much more... |
Egypt Musk
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.10.28 16:27:00 -
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One major link to eve supporting the future of PC that seams to be left out here is those corps in an alliance with eve support don't necessarily need there own eve support. If you in an alliance all alliance based eve ship's we'll be able to preform all the tasks needed that an non allied corp with eve support could do so maybe you should be looking eve side for a corp wanting to join an alliance to run the eve side of said alliances PC. Might settle the fears of those worrying about getting pushed out of PC due to lack of commitment of the larger picture game |
Dachande Anasazi
DUST University Ivy League
45
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Posted - 2013.10.28 16:39:00 -
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Egypt Musk wrote:One major link to eve supporting the future of PC that seams to be left out here is those corps in an alliance with eve support don't necessarily need there own eve support. If you in an alliance all alliance based eve ship's we'll be able to preform all the tasks needed that an non allied corp with eve support could do so maybe you should be looking eve side for a corp wanting to join an alliance to run the eve side of said alliances PC. Might settle the fears of those worrying about getting pushed out of PC due to lack of commitment of the larger picture game
So how would the alliance form in the first place? Also voice communcation? WouldI needmy laptop on with ventrilo/mumble/teamspeak running? |
Egypt Musk
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.10.28 16:57:00 -
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Dachande Anasazi wrote:Egypt Musk wrote:One major link to eve supporting the future of PC that seams to be left out here is those corps in an alliance with eve support don't necessarily need there own eve support. If you in an alliance all alliance based eve ship's we'll be able to preform all the tasks needed that an non allied corp with eve support could do so maybe you should be looking eve side for a corp wanting to join an alliance to run the eve side of said alliances PC. Might settle the fears of those worrying about getting pushed out of PC due to lack of commitment of the larger picture game So how would the alliance form in the first place? Also voice communcation? WouldI needmy laptop on with ventrilo/mumble/teamspeak running?
We'll maybe you need to look at dropping your current alliance tags and join one up and running already eve side because there are upstart and maintenance cost involved pricing being I think 1 billion to start and 100 million for up keep. I know of a few not many but a few eve side alliances loooking to pair up with dust bunnies for the coming changes.
As far as how to go about getting in said alliance?
Just in the time this thread has been running you could have made a bunner email address new trail eve account got on you local/militia chat ect in game on eve while accessing the eve forums and done some work to find a suitable match.
Will the time and effort fit the reward entailed? From what i understand about dust uni its districts are not used for the traditional idea of what PC was meant to be maybe its time to just start asking for donations and switch to FW.
I have given you a plausible means tho of keeping what your currently have lets see if you have the drive to implement it.
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Dachande Anasazi
DUST University Ivy League
45
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:05:00 -
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Egypt Musk wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:Egypt Musk wrote:One major link to eve supporting the future of PC that seams to be left out here is those corps in an alliance with eve support don't necessarily need there own eve support. If you in an alliance all alliance based eve ship's we'll be able to preform all the tasks needed that an non allied corp with eve support could do so maybe you should be looking eve side for a corp wanting to join an alliance to run the eve side of said alliances PC. Might settle the fears of those worrying about getting pushed out of PC due to lack of commitment of the larger picture game So how would the alliance form in the first place? Also voice communcation? WouldI needmy laptop on with ventrilo/mumble/teamspeak running? We'll maybe you need to look at dropping your current alliance tags and join one up and running already eve side because there are upstart and maintenance cost involved pricing being I think 1 billion to start and 100 million for up keep. I know of a few not many but a few eve side alliances loooking to pair up with dust bunnies for the coming changes. As far as how to go about getting in said alliance? Just in the time this thread has been running you could have made a bunner email address new trail eve account got on you local/militia chat ect in game on eve while accessing the eve forums and done some work to find a suitable match. Will the time and effort fit the reward entailed? From what i understand about dust uni its districts are not used for the traditional idea of what PC was meant to be maybe its time to just start asking for donations and switch to FW. I have given you a plausible means tho of keeping what your currently have lets see if you have the drive to implement it. Edit: all chat channels accessible on eve for the most part can be accessed on dust so you could in theory use the preferred dust comms for the same purpose ... and not all eve pilots sound like robots just those using there cheap laptop built in mics some spend equal to or more than what we pay for a high end ps3 head set and sound just as clear as we do.
Oh I do plan to drop D-Uni..IF my Cstrike friends to join...but one of the thingsthey are hesitant about competive play is that NONE of us know EVE players...we know plenty of WOW players lol.
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Egypt Musk
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:19:00 -
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Egypt Musk wrote: Just in the time this thread has been running you could have made a bunner email address new trail eve account got on you local/militia chat ect in game on eve while accessing the eve forums and done some work to find a suitable match.
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Dachande Anasazi
DUST University Ivy League
45
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:50:00 -
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Egypt Musk wrote:Egypt Musk wrote: Just in the time this thread has been running you could have made a bunner email address new trail eve account got on you local/militia chat ect in game on eve while accessing the eve forums and done some work to find a suitable match.
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So you're telling me Random EvE pilots/Alliances will just say SURE we can join together...just like that...without ever meeting them..
Does networking in NEW EDEN that easy...??
And this is about getting new players in. How does one convince one's cstrike or traditional FPS players that allthat **** is worth it. Because honestly it is overwhelming to a FPS player. Now I can just ask them to try the game out see how mechanics and shooting is. I am sure theyll like it.
Then lets say they like it...We make Trial eve accts (hassel) goto the forums and introduce ourselves...ur telling me alliances would jump to help us? If so I wish getting jobs was that easy in RL.
Here is how I see it. Most alliances would just buy a ps3 (which would becheap after ps4 launch..DL dust...and have their dust branches rather than funding a dust corp. |
Dachande Anasazi
DUST University Ivy League
45
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:51:00 -
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If anythign I see a contract thing that can work..We pay EvE players for transport..And itll be done by an ingame automatic contract thing in the market place. |
Soraya Xel
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
711
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Posted - 2013.10.28 18:04:00 -
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When PC 2.0 rolls out, any serious DUST groups are either going to join EVE coalitions or ship out.
Top Men. - The DUST Arm of the CFC
www.dust-gents.com
Recruiting corporations and players now!
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Dachande Anasazi
DUST University Ivy League
45
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Posted - 2013.10.28 18:17:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:When PC 2.0 rolls out, any serious DUST groups are either going to join EVE coalitions or ship out.
So then we're not mercs we're Foot soldier bitches to EVE corps. And that doesnt help bring in new comers at all to DUST.
That is not productive at all...Youre prolly those people who just love DUST and cant see all the short comings because ur on EVE's ****.
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Egypt Musk
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
35
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Posted - 2013.10.28 19:15:00 -
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Dachande Anasazi wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:When PC 2.0 rolls out, any serious DUST groups are either going to join EVE coalitions or ship out. So then we're not mercs we're Foot soldier bitches to EVE corps. And that doesnt help bring in new comers at all to DUST. That is not productive at all...Youre prolly those people who just love DUST and cant see all the short comings because ur on EVE's ****.
Why is is when you try and point some one in the right direction they never want to do any of the work themselves and there usually a troll *rolls eyes*
Edit: Any serious Dust groups planing on staying past the ps4 launch should already have a few pilots (at the very least) working on recruiting for what the future holds or man up and get there own damn eve accounts. I'm only 20 or so days in (eve side) myself but that is one more body when the time comes.
I'm just another dust bunny like you Dachande Anasazi (except I'm in a real corp) I don't get where your seance of entitlement comes from that an end game scenario should just be handed to you this isn't CoD you have to put work in to get effect out. |
Dachande Anasazi
DUST University Ivy League
45
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Posted - 2013.10.28 19:36:00 -
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Egypt Musk wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:When PC 2.0 rolls out, any serious DUST groups are either going to join EVE coalitions or ship out. So then we're not mercs we're Foot soldier bitches to EVE corps. And that doesnt help bring in new comers at all to DUST. That is not productive at all...Youre prolly those people who just love DUST and cant see all the short comings because ur on EVE's ****. Why is is when you try and point some one in the right direction they never want to do any of the work themselves and there usually a troll *rolls eyes* Edit: Any serious Dust groups planing on staying past the ps4 launch should already have a few pilots (at the very least) working on recruiting for what the future holds or man up and get there own damn eve accounts. I'm only 20 or so days in (eve side) myself but that is one more body when the time comes. I'm just another dust bunny like you Dachande Anasazi (except I'm in a real corp) I don't get where your seance of entitlement comes from that an end game scenario should just be handed to you this isn't CoD you have to put work in to get effect out.
NvM...I wasnt asking all that.I was asking about Marketing the game to friends.
And P.S. i have been in real corps I just joined Uni because I believe if we donthelpnoobs out theyll dropand the community wont grow..
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Egypt Musk
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
35
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Posted - 2013.10.28 22:29:00 -
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Dachande Anasazi wrote:[
I was asking about Marketing the game to friends.
And P.S. i have been in real corps I just joined Uni because I believe if we donthelpnoobs out theyll dropand the community wont grow..
That I can see might be a bit of an issues as CCP really has done them selves no favors with the minimal ammount of marketing they have dont at this point I really think they are hoping that when the ps3 goes down to $100 not to long after the ps4 release that the dust/uncharted bundle will be there to pick up there slack only time will tell...
Again most corps planning to be here for the long haul have a training corp in place teaching new players from the ground up or at least guide them in the right direction is a must.
We (anon) have such a corp ours is called unkn0wn killers it serves as our training corp for noobs and also as our quarantine for higher sp players.
Those high sp players generally want to make the jump to anon asap but it is required to run with them/us in a corp setting to make sure they mesh well with our guys before giving them the go ahead on there anon tag switch requires a unanimous approval from training officers.
If your interested in speaking with our minor league corp about you and your friends coming on board with unknown that could be arrange thus eliminating your need for eve side recruitment please join our public channel : A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S
Ask for an officer you'll be put in touch with myself of one of our other board of directors members and we can give you the lay out of how things work in our camp in a little more detail.
That being said don't expect a hand out you'll still be required to make it through basic training but it was it is .
If not I wish you all the best luck in the future going it on your own as you will need it.
-Egypt |
Dachande Anasazi
DUST University Ivy League
46
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Posted - 2013.10.28 22:30:00 -
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Egypt Musk wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:[
I was asking about Marketing the game to friends.
And P.S. i have been in real corps I just joined Uni because I believe if we donthelpnoobs out theyll dropand the community wont grow..
That I can see might be a bit of an issues as CCP really has done them selves no favors with the minimal ammount of marketing they have dont at this point I really think they are hoping that when the ps3 goes down to $100 not to long after the ps4 release that the dust/uncharted bundle will be there to pick up there slack only time will tell... Again most corps planning to be here for the long haul have a training corp in place teaching new players from the ground up or at least guide them in the right direction is a must. We (anon) have such a corp ours is called unkn0wn killers it serves as our training corp for noobs and also as our quarantine for higher sp players. Those high sp players generally want to make the jump to anon asap but it is required to run with them/us in a corp setting to make sure they mesh well with our guys before giving them the go ahead on there anon tag switch requires a unanimous approval from training officers. If your interested in speaking with our minor league corp about you and your friends coming on board with unknown that could be arrange thus eliminating your need for eve side recruitment please join our public channel : A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S Ask for an officer you'll be put in touch with myself of one of our other board of directors members and we can give you the lay out of how things work in our camp in a little more detail. That being said don't expect a hand out you'll still be required to make it through basic training but it was it is . If not I wish you all the best luck in the future going it on your own as you will need it. -Egypt
THnx man.
I'll keep it in mind. And dude I wasn't trolling just had a bad week so my temper is short.
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Egypt Musk
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
35
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Posted - 2013.10.28 22:32:00 -
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Dachande Anasazi wrote:Egypt Musk wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:[
I was asking about Marketing the game to friends.
And P.S. i have been in real corps I just joined Uni because I believe if we donthelpnoobs out theyll dropand the community wont grow..
That I can see might be a bit of an issues as CCP really has done them selves no favors with the minimal ammount of marketing they have dont at this point I really think they are hoping that when the ps3 goes down to $100 not to long after the ps4 release that the dust/uncharted bundle will be there to pick up there slack only time will tell... Again most corps planning to be here for the long haul have a training corp in place teaching new players from the ground up or at least guide them in the right direction is a must. We (anon) have such a corp ours is called unkn0wn killers it serves as our training corp for noobs and also as our quarantine for higher sp players. Those high sp players generally want to make the jump to anon asap but it is required to run with them/us in a corp setting to make sure they mesh well with our guys before giving them the go ahead on there anon tag switch requires a unanimous approval from training officers. If your interested in speaking with our minor league corp about you and your friends coming on board with unknown that could be arrange thus eliminating your need for eve side recruitment please join our public channel : A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S Ask for an officer you'll be put in touch with myself of one of our other board of directors members and we can give you the lay out of how things work in our camp in a little more detail. That being said don't expect a hand out you'll still be required to make it through basic training but it was it is . If not I wish you all the best luck in the future going it on your own as you will need it. -Egypt THnx man. I'll keep it in mind. And dude I wasn't trolling just had a bad week so my temper is short.
Its cool its really hard to tell on these forums so many ppl have there forum warrior to lvl 5 with trolling prof. 5 as well.
I have to be quite tho there watching our every move lol |
IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
260
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Posted - 2013.10.29 15:27:00 -
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Dachande Anasazi wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:Correct with what others have said, its not necessary to have EVE backing. Something I hope changes.
To be in PC you should be forced to have any EVE backing to survive. PC should be an "advanced" game mode that really ties the two games together. Where its paramount you have both sides, you could still have a small impact if you didn't have EVE connections, but it would require >>>>>isk/manpower than currently. Otherwise you can join FW or pub games. It waters down the experience for everyone otherwise.
In upcoming patches the standard orbital strikes will be removed from PC and FW games. So you will need eve side backing to perform those actions. But orbitals really aren't currently all that game changing.
Its not difficult to get EVE side connections. There are many alliances out there that already have EVE backing. The only issue currently is the lack of benefit from either entity. So the advantages are little for both EVE and Dust. Ok and how did they get that backing...some of their foot soldiers must have a toon in EvE. And honestly isthere a difference between FW and Pubs...WHat if I want to run with a full set of 16 friends? Our corp used to be in a EVE backed alliance (ROFL) but there aren't any benefits of an EVE based organization currently. We helped developed ROFL before dust was even released in hopes of it being worth while. A year later and alliances still have no purpose in dust. Which is a crying shame. Eventually there will be a difference between FW and Pubs. Soxs4 and team true grit has been working on changing FW to a non-isk generated game style. So they will give LP for games won. Also FW won't have access to regular tactical strikes, only eve based strikes. I would suggest any dust based corps reach out to EVE FW corps and get discussions going, thats going to be the best route of getting established to eve corps currently. Team deploy is also "in the works" but likely won't come for another couple months. You can technically sync into FW games if you wanted. So its not too big of a deal, just a quality of life change. Okay we all know we need to reach out...but HOW? I have heard the eve-vegas stuff...But no where do I see they will help in communications.
Its really quite easy. There are a bunch of tools you can use.
Dotlan (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliances) Evewho (http://evewho.com/) Eve recruitment forums (https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=265)
Most times they explain who to contact to start diplomatic relationships. All it takes is a mail. |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1574
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Posted - 2013.10.29 15:58:00 -
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2 things You can be a merc, it's called ringing.
You went from D-Uni to a real training corp, it's surprising how bad D-Uni is compared to how good E-Uni is.
CEO of The Corporate Raiders, We're still recruiting...
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
792
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Posted - 2013.10.30 04:11:00 -
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Dachande Anasazi wrote:Sopretty much exactly what the topic says, If good FPS players come into DUST and make their own corpbut don;t know anyone from EvE can they survive. If not how do they make connections with EvE corps? Especially since we have very little influence on EvE atm.
If this is in the wrong forum please feel free to troll.
it will be harder and harder to survive without eve over the next several months.
as far as making connections in eve... you better learn to fly. |
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