You can absolutely survive. The only thing you ever need EVE support for is special orbitals/alliance matters/superiority complexes, there's nothing you can't achieve with just mercs.

Bear in mind, one must be skilled and versed in Dust not only in its mehchanics, but far enough into its skill progression tree to be able to hold one's own.

Soon it won't be possible to be in PC without EvE pilots moving your clones from place to place - so I'd say it's not possible to survive without them unless your a casual/FW corp.

Correct with what others have said, its not necessary to have EVE backing. Something I hope changes.

To be in PC you should be forced to have any EVE backing to survive. PC should be an "advanced" game mode that really ties the two games together. Where its paramount you have both sides, you could still have a small impact if you didn't have EVE connections, but it would require >>>>>isk/manpower than currently. Otherwise you can join FW or pub games. It waters down the experience for everyone otherwise.

In upcoming patches the standard orbital strikes will be removed from PC and FW games. So you will need eve side backing to perform those actions. But orbitals really aren't currently all that game changing.

Its not difficult to get EVE side connections. There are many alliances out there that already have EVE backing. The only issue currently is the lack of benefit from either entity. So the advantages are little for both EVE and Dust.

Soon it won't be possible to be in PC without EvE pilots moving your clones from place to place - so I'd say it's not possible to survive without them unless your a casual/FW corp.

Yeah, when this happens all bets are off, but expect FW to become much more of a thing for corps long before we start talking about War Barges.

Soon it won't be possible to be in PC without EvE pilots moving your clones from place to place - so I'd say it's not possible to survive without them unless your a casual/FW corp.

Yea and many FPS players will be turned off by this...No competitiveness whatsoever. And how dumb wil lit be if we are in the warbarge and get shot down...It sounds cool but it wont be

Correct with what others have said, its not necessary to have EVE backing. Something I hope changes.

To be in PC you should be forced to have any EVE backing to survive. PC should be an "advanced" game mode that really ties the two games together. Where its paramount you have both sides, you could still have a small impact if you didn't have EVE connections, but it would require >>>>>isk/manpower than currently. Otherwise you can join FW or pub games. It waters down the experience for everyone otherwise.

In upcoming patches the standard orbital strikes will be removed from PC and FW games. So you will need eve side backing to perform those actions. But orbitals really aren't currently all that game changing.

Its not difficult to get EVE side connections. There are many alliances out there that already have EVE backing. The only issue currently is the lack of benefit from either entity. So the advantages are little for both EVE and Dust.

Besides if CCP gives capsuleers an incentive to get involved they will seek dust corps to join so corps who don't have eve backing will have only themselves to blame, its about placing the responsibility on the players themselves to get involved.

This, its what CCP has been working towards since dust was just an idea.

If people don't like it they are playing the wrong game.

Worst thing is AE has no eve backing whatsoever.... Even though we're good it won't matter :(

Dat eve support moven dem clones :/

Ok and how did they get that backing...some of their foot soldiers must have a toon in EvE.

And honestly isthere a difference between FW and Pubs...WHat if I want to run with a full set of 16 friends?

Trust me I'm not being a ****, that's your perception.
SO hence I am IN the RIGHT GAME based on what I said above. I came here looking for advise..Because my friends are in the market for a new game...they MAY go back to WoW...they all are good inFPS..so instead of being a *****..please advise..

Okay see that helps me. I understand what CCP wants...But they need to give us avenues..One of them is giving incentives to EVE players...But what about avenues to communicate? Like a single forum.

I am fine with making alliances with EVE corps...Heck I like the social atmosphere and based on my other mmo experience I will prolly make friends for a lifetime.

But so far all I see is what CCP wants but not giving us avenues to actually do it.


So I came here to ask if I was missing something and of avenues they provided and I didnt know.

Worst thing is AE has no eve backing whatsoever.... Even though we're good it won't matter :(

Dat eve support moven dem clones :/

Our corp used to be in a EVE backed alliance (ROFL) but there aren't any benefits of an EVE based organization currently. We helped developed ROFL before dust was even released in hopes of it being worth while. A year later and alliances still have no purpose in dust. Which is a crying shame.

Eventually there will be a difference between FW and Pubs. Soxs4 and team true grit has been working on changing FW to a non-isk generated game style. So they will give LP for games won. Also FW won't have access to regular tactical strikes, only eve based strikes. I would suggest any dust based corps reach out to EVE FW corps and get discussions going, thats going to be the best route of getting established to eve corps currently.

Team deploy is also "in the works" but likely won't come for another couple months. You can technically sync into FW games if you wanted. So its not too big of a deal, just a quality of life change.

There you have it...some of the best players are going to be screwed (btw gg to all the pub matches I had with u guys..I was in IE b4 so know many of you guys)...so What are you guys thinking of doing? What will CCP do to help with PLAYER integration NOT just game play integration.

There you have it...some of the best players are going to be screwed (btw gg to all the pub matches I had with u guys..I was in IE b4 so know many of you guys)...so What are you guys thinking of doing? What will CCP do to help with PLAYER integration NOT just game play integration.

Trust me I'm not being a ****, that's just your perception.

my bad bro having a bad RL day.. no offense

I was a night elf hunter with a bow.. his name was Bullitt. I had a striped cat named comehonorface, years later someone reported him and the developers renamed him to "spot". Striped cat named spot.. go figure.

Quit with whatever expansion raised the lvl cap to 80 a few years ago. fun times, totally addicting