You can absolutely survive. The only thing you ever need EVE support for is special orbitals/alliance matters/superiority complexes, there's nothing you can't achieve with just mercs.

Bear in mind, one must be skilled and versed in Dust not only in its mehchanics, but far enough into its skill progression tree to be able to hold one's own.

Soon it won't be possible to be in PC without EvE pilots moving your clones from place to place - so I'd say it's not possible to survive without them unless your a casual/FW corp.

Correct with what others have said, its not necessary to have EVE backing. Something I hope changes.

To be in PC you should be forced to have any EVE backing to survive. PC should be an "advanced" game mode that really ties the two games together. Where its paramount you have both sides, you could still have a small impact if you didn't have EVE connections, but it would require >>>>>isk/manpower than currently. Otherwise you can join FW or pub games. It waters down the experience for everyone otherwise.

In upcoming patches the standard orbital strikes will be removed from PC and FW games. So you will need eve side backing to perform those actions. But orbitals really aren't currently all that game changing.

Its not difficult to get EVE side connections. There are many alliances out there that already have EVE backing. The only issue currently is the lack of benefit from either entity. So the advantages are little for both EVE and Dust.

Yeah, when this happens all bets are off, but expect FW to become much more of a thing for corps long before we start talking about War Barges.

Besides if CCP gives capsuleers an incentive to get involved they will seek dust corps to join so corps who don't have eve backing will have only themselves to blame, its about placing the responsibility on the players themselves to get involved.

This, its what CCP has been working towards since dust was just an idea.

If people don't like it they are playing the wrong game.

Worst thing is AE has no eve backing whatsoever.... Even though we're good it won't matter :(

Dat eve support moven dem clones :/

Our corp used to be in a EVE backed alliance (ROFL) but there aren't any benefits of an EVE based organization currently. We helped developed ROFL before dust was even released in hopes of it being worth while. A year later and alliances still have no purpose in dust. Which is a crying shame.

Eventually there will be a difference between FW and Pubs. Soxs4 and team true grit has been working on changing FW to a non-isk generated game style. So they will give LP for games won. Also FW won't have access to regular tactical strikes, only eve based strikes. I would suggest any dust based corps reach out to EVE FW corps and get discussions going, thats going to be the best route of getting established to eve corps currently.

Team deploy is also "in the works" but likely won't come for another couple months. You can technically sync into FW games if you wanted. So its not too big of a deal, just a quality of life change.

Trust me I'm not being a ****, that's just your perception.

One major link to eve supporting the future of PC that seams to be left out here is those corps in an alliance with eve support don't necessarily need there own eve support. If you in an alliance all alliance based eve ship's we'll be able to preform all the tasks needed that an non allied corp with eve support could do so maybe you should be looking eve side for a corp wanting to join an alliance to run the eve side of said alliances PC. Might settle the fears of those worrying about getting pushed out of PC due to lack of commitment of the larger picture game

We'll maybe you need to look at dropping your current alliance tags and join one up and running already eve side because there are upstart and maintenance cost involved pricing being I think 1 billion to start and 100 million for up keep. I know of a few not many but a few eve side alliances loooking to pair up with dust bunnies for the coming changes.

As far as how to go about getting in said alliance?

Just in the time this thread has been running you could have made a bunner email address new trail eve account got on you local/militia chat ect in game on eve while accessing the eve forums and done some work to find a suitable match.

Will the time and effort fit the reward entailed? From what i understand about dust uni its districts are not used for the traditional idea of what PC was meant to be maybe its time to just start asking for donations and switch to FW.

I have given you a plausible means tho of keeping what your currently have lets see if you have the drive to implement it.


Edit: all chat channels accessible on eve for the most part can be accessed on dust so you could in theory use the preferred dust comms for the same purpose ... and not all eve pilots sound like robots just those using there cheap laptop built in mics some spend equal to or more than what we pay for a high end ps3 head set and sound just as clear as we do.

When PC 2.0 rolls out, any serious DUST groups are either going to join EVE coalitions or ship out.

Why is is when you try and point some one in the right direction they never want to do any of the work themselves and there usually a troll *rolls eyes*

Edit: Any serious Dust groups planing on staying past the ps4 launch should already have a few pilots (at the very least) working on recruiting for what the future holds or man up and get there own damn eve accounts. I'm only 20 or so days in (eve side) myself but that is one more body when the time comes.

I'm just another dust bunny like you Dachande Anasazi (except I'm in a real corp) I don't get where your seance of entitlement comes from that an end game scenario should just be handed to you this isn't CoD you have to put work in to get effect out.

That I can see might be a bit of an issues as CCP really has done them selves no favors with the minimal ammount of marketing they have dont at this point I really think they are hoping that when the ps3 goes down to $100 not to long after the ps4 release that the dust/uncharted bundle will be there to pick up there slack only time will tell...

Again most corps planning to be here for the long haul have a training corp in place teaching new players from the ground up or at least guide them in the right direction is a must.

We (anon) have such a corp ours is called unkn0wn killers it serves as our training corp for noobs and also as our quarantine for higher sp players.

Those high sp players generally want to make the jump to anon asap but it is required to run with them/us in a corp setting to make sure they mesh well with our guys before giving them the go ahead on there anon tag switch requires a unanimous approval from training officers.

If your interested in speaking with our minor league corp about you and your friends coming on board with unknown that could be arrange thus eliminating your need for eve side recruitment please join our public channel : A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S

Ask for an officer you'll be put in touch with myself of one of our other board of directors members and we can give you the lay out of how things work in our camp in a little more detail.

That being said don't expect a hand out you'll still be required to make it through basic training but it was it is .

If not I wish you all the best luck in the future going it on your own as you will need it.

-Egypt