DUST Search - Anyone here run dual SMGs?

IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY wrote:

gbghg wrote:

IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY wrote:

Not trolling here but what's the point? You can't shoot them at the same time so the only gain is not reloading as much, doesn't the smg reload in a blink anyway and hold 80 rounds? seems like a waste of CPU/PG

it means you don't have to worry about the reload till after the fight, so the only break in your dps is the weapon switch, which is negligible. what this means is that if you and an opponent start shooting at the same time, while he has to go through the relatively lengthy reload process you can switch weapons and continue to shoot him, do it well and it gives you a decisive advantage, do it badly and your just wasting weapons. its also good for surprising people, if they rush you because they think your reloading you can surprise them with a clip to the face.

this makes sense to me if the weapon in question doesn't have an extremely fast reload already, plasma cannon for example. but the smg reloads before my finger is off the button.

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Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 2128	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:21:00 - [1] - Quote I personally love it. I kind of want to try dual calas but I don't want to lose them lol. So anyone else use dual SMGs?
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 3760	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:26:00 - [2] - Quote on occasion, 2x toxins on a dragonfly suit, ith no mods xD, completely free and surprisingly deadly in close quarters, the advantage the second weapon gives is huge, while the enemy reloads i can continue shooting.
Gunmouse 0uter.Heaven 96	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:28:00 - [3] - Quote I did on my Proto Minja before i respect to a Gal scout. Was lots of fun. What i would do is have one upper tier SMG (proto assualt or adv assault, Cala's if you really wanna be a try hard) and then a toxin. By the time i ran outta ammo on the one, the toxin was more than enough to drop them if they aren't already. Get the prof up to at least 4 or 5, and stack one or two sidearm damage mods on it. I'm not sure how well this will work now however with auto aim, because i was able to out strafe the medium frames all day when I would run this.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 2128	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:29:00 - [4] - Quote gbghg wrote: on occasion, 2x toxins on a dragonfly suit, ith no mods xD, completely free and surprisingly deadly in close quarters, the advantage the second weapon gives is huge, while the enemy reloads i can continue shooting. I run advanced ammar assault with two advanced ASMGs and two damage mods. Oh and I have SMG prof to 3. I tear armor apart and anyone who shield tanks gets a flux grenades
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 2128	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:30:00 - [5] - Quote Gunmouse wrote: I did on my Proto Minja before i respect to a Gal scout. Was lots of fun. What i would do is have one upper tier SMG (proto assualt or adv assault, Cala's if you really wanna be a try hard) and then a toxin. By the time i ran outta ammo on the one, the toxin was more than enough to drop them if they aren't already. Get the prof up to at least 4 or 5, and stack one or two sidearm damage mods on it. I'm not sure how well this will work now however with auto aim, because i was able to out strafe the medium frames all day when I would run this. I was thinking of running one higher tier SMG and one lower but I like just having two advanced ASMGs. I kind of want to try dual calas because I have like over 80 of them. Also I just went 21-2 with my dual SMG setup a little while ago.
IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 193	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:33:00 - [6] - Quote Not trolling here but what's the point? You can't shoot them at the same time so the only gain is not reloading as much, doesn't the smg reload in a blink anyway and hold 80 rounds? seems like a waste of CPU/PG
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 2128	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:35:00 - [7] - Quote IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY wrote: Not trolling here but what's the point? You can't shoot them at the same time so the only gain is not reloading as much, doesn't the smg reload in a blink anyway and hold 80 rounds? seems like a waste of CPU/PG SMGs have a very high RoF so those 80 rounds go very quick. Also the reload is just as long as the ars I believe.
JAZC15 Grupo de Asalto Chacal RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:36:00 - [8] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: I personally love it. I kind of want to try dual calas but I don't want to lose them lol. So anyone else use dual SMGs? n.n/ is awesome witn Combat Minmantar for the second ability 5% more charger per level
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 1545	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:37:00 - [9] - Quote I've run with a Cala's and an Ishukone. Pretty hilarious on an Mk. 0 and 2 complex damage mods. Nothing really survives the cala's so I rarely need to switch to the assault smg. Dat sidearm bonus.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 926	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:37:00 - [10] - Quote Two ishukone smgs with prof 5 is beast mode, most action takes place in cqc where objectives are. In fact just one is beasty provided your any good.

IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 193	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:38:00 - [11] - Quote pretty sure its the fastest reload in the game, i just seemed to notice the saving in time between the swap and the reload to be inconsequential when i thought it would be a good idea, but that's just me.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 2128	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:39:00 - [12] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Two ishukone smgs with prof 5 is beast mode, most action takes place in cqc where objectives are. In fact just one is beasty provided your any good. I don't like running dual ishukone ASMGs because they cost too much.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 1545	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:40:00 - [13] - Quote I mean, really your weapons should complement each other. Having two of the exact side arm leaves a big hole in your offensive abilities. Now, once we have an smg with a shield bonus dual smgs will be definitely worth it. This is all my own personal opinion mind you.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 2128	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:40:00 - [14] - Quote IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY wrote: pretty sure its the fastest reload in the game, i just seemed to notice the saving in time between the swap and the reload to be inconsequential when i thought it would be a good idea, but that's just me. No fastest reload is Scrambler Pistol I believe. I'll go check though.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 2128	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:41:00 - [15] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: I mean, really your weapons should complement each other. Having two of the exact side arm leaves a big hole in your offensive abilities. Now, once we have an smg with a shield bonus dual smgs will be definitely worth it. This is all my own personal opinion mind you. Two words: Flux grenades. Although I do run ScR + SMG which is simply amazing.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 3760	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:43:00 - [16] - Quote IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY wrote: Not trolling here but what's the point? You can't shoot them at the same time so the only gain is not reloading as much, doesn't the smg reload in a blink anyway and hold 80 rounds? seems like a waste of CPU/PG it means you don't have to worry about the reload till after the fight, so the only break in your dps is the weapon switch, which is negligible. what this means is that if you and an opponent start shooting at the same time, while he has to go through the relatively lengthy reload process you can switch weapons and continue to shoot him, do it well and it gives you a decisive advantage, do it badly and your just wasting weapons. its also good for surprising people, if they rush you because they think your reloading you can surprise them with a clip to the face.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 2128	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:45:00 - [17] - Quote IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY wrote: pretty sure its the fastest reload in the game, i just seemed to notice the saving in time between the swap and the reload to be inconsequential when i thought it would be a good idea, but that's just me. Nope both the AR and the SMG have 3 seconds reload times. Just checked.
Gunmouse 0uter.Heaven 96	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:46:00 - [18] - Quote Having two smg's, thus eliminating reload is surprisingly very efficient. The trick is to strafe and try and land as many hits with your first smg as you can, waiting for your enemy to start reloading, and when he thinks hes safe to reload, whip out the other one and continue shooting. I've gotten so many hate mails for doing that. scout works best because you only need to make them reload, then you can unload on them before they can even get the gun reloaded.
IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 193	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:46:00 - [19] - Quote gbghg wrote: IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY wrote: Not trolling here but what's the point? You can't shoot them at the same time so the only gain is not reloading as much, doesn't the smg reload in a blink anyway and hold 80 rounds? seems like a waste of CPU/PG it means you don't have to worry about the reload till after the fight, so the only break in your dps is the weapon switch, which is negligible. what this means is that if you and an opponent start shooting at the same time, while he has to go through the relatively lengthy reload process you can switch weapons and continue to shoot him, do it well and it gives you a decisive advantage, do it badly and your just wasting weapons. its also good for surprising people, if they rush you because they think your reloading you can surprise them with a clip to the face. this makes sense to me if the weapon in question doesn't have an extremely fast reload already, plasma cannon for example. but the smg reloads before my finger is off the button.
IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 193	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:48:00 - [20] - Quote maybe my issue is i play HMG/FG and my expectations for fast reload are different than yours. tomato/ tomato

Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 2128	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:48:00 - [21] - Quote IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY wrote: gbghg wrote: IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY wrote: Not trolling here but what's the point? You can't shoot them at the same time so the only gain is not reloading as much, doesn't the smg reload in a blink anyway and hold 80 rounds? seems like a waste of CPU/PG it means you don't have to worry about the reload till after the fight, so the only break in your dps is the weapon switch, which is negligible. what this means is that if you and an opponent start shooting at the same time, while he has to go through the relatively lengthy reload process you can switch weapons and continue to shoot him, do it well and it gives you a decisive advantage, do it badly and your just wasting weapons. its also good for surprising people, if they rush you because they think your reloading you can surprise them with a clip to the face. this makes sense to me if the weapon in question doesn't have an extremely fast reload already, plasma cannon for example. but the smg reloads before my finger is off the button. Read my post above yours.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 3760	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:48:00 - [22] - Quote IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY wrote: gbghg wrote: IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY wrote: Not trolling here but what's the point? You can't shoot them at the same time so the only gain is not reloading as much, doesn't the smg reload in a blink anyway and hold 80 rounds? seems like a waste of CPU/PG it means you don't have to worry about the reload till after the fight, so the only break in your dps is the weapon switch, which is negligible. what this means is that if you and an opponent start shooting at the same time, while he has to go through the relatively lengthy reload process you can switch weapons and continue to shoot him, do it well and it gives you a decisive advantage, do it badly and your just wasting weapons. its also good for surprising people, if they rush you because they think your reloading you can surprise them with a clip to the face. this makes sense to me if the weapon in question doesn't have an extremely fast reload already, plasma cannon for example. but the smg reloads before my finger is off the button. in a dps race every second counts, particularly if your in a scout suit.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 926	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:51:00 - [23] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Two ishukone smgs with prof 5 is beast mode, most action takes place in cqc where objectives are. In fact just one is beasty provided your any good. I don't like running dual ishukone ASMGs because they cost too much. Wtf, can't dust uni help you?
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 2128	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:55:00 - [24] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Two ishukone smgs with prof 5 is beast mode, most action takes place in cqc where objectives are. In fact just one is beasty provided your any good. I don't like running dual ishukone ASMGs because they cost too much. Wtf, can't dust uni help you? If they helped me financially wise they would have to help the other 1000+ players in D Uni with isk which would end up with D Uni going bankrupt since we only have like 2 or 3 districts and like 4-5% tax rate. I use to have over 100 mil but I started giving my isk away to new players which in turn made me go below 5 mil. I'm now only up to 14 mil. Once I hit 20 mil I'll start spending more isk.
Kal Kronos L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 91	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:02:00 - [25] - Quote I think I'll stick with Scr and smg, quad tap scr switch to smg and if they try to retreat back to scr.
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 453	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:03:00 - [26] - Quote I run 2x breach SMGs. Nothing makes me happier in Dust at the moment than watching my Breach SMGs tearing apart redberries.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 2128	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:04:00 - [27] - Quote Kal Kronos wrote: I think I'll stick with Scr and smg, quad tap scr switch to smg and if they try to retreat back to scr. That's my main setup. Dual SMGs are just to have fun with.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 2128	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:05:00 - [28] - Quote Krom Ganesh wrote: I run 2x breach SMGs. Nothing makes me happier in Dust at the moment than watching my Breach SMGs tearing apart redberries. I haven't used the breach SMG. I'll have to try it out.
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 731	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:10:00 - [29] - Quote 2x Assault SMG of choice is pretty fun. Though I do have to say it still sucks in comparison to an Assault Rifle right now.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 929	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:11:00 - [30] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Two ishukone smgs with prof 5 is beast mode, most action takes place in cqc where objectives are. In fact just one is beasty provided your any good. I don't like running dual ishukone ASMGs because they cost too much. Wtf, can't dust uni help you? If they helped me financially wise they would have to help the other 1000+ players in D Uni with isk which would end up with D Uni going bankrupt since we only have like 2 or 3 districts and like 4-5% tax rate. I use to have over 100 mil but I started giving my isk away to new players which in turn made me go below 5 mil. I'm now only up to 14 mil. Once I hit 20 mil I'll start spending more isk. Damn.

Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 453	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:15:00 - [31] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Krom Ganesh wrote: I run 2x breach SMGs. Nothing makes me happier in Dust at the moment than watching my Breach SMGs tearing apart redberries. I haven't used the breach SMG. I'll have to try it out. The second best thing about the breach variant is that it is incredibly ammo efficient. I stopped using the assault SMG partially because I kept running out of ammo too quickly.
Soldier of Mawat Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 203	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:30:00 - [32] - Quote I love running my dragonfly assault with a six kin and a basic as a backup, cheap fit that can shred anything. I can't wait for the new SMGs to come out.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 2128	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:32:00 - [33] - Quote Soldier of Mawat wrote: I love running my dragonfly assault with a six kin and a basic as a backup, cheap fit that can shred anything. I can't wait for the new SMGs to come out. Yeah I personally want the magsec SMG. It looks awesome. Can't wait for it.
Chad Michael Murray NECROM0NGERS 112	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:48:00 - [34] - Quote I have an alt headed down the minnie assault path that runs dual SMGs. I dunno, I made a bunch of alts to try out some stuff I've always wanted to test out without "wasting" points on the main so they're all <1mill sp but dual SMGs is what I've done the best with so far.
General Erick Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 162	Posted - 2013.10.25 23:12:00 - [35] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: I personally love it. I kind of want to try dual calas but I don't want to lose them lol. So anyone else use dual SMGs? I want a dual wielding module now.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 2128	Posted - 2013.10.26 00:19:00 - [36] - Quote General Erick wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: I personally love it. I kind of want to try dual calas but I don't want to lose them lol. So anyone else use dual SMGs? I want a dual wielding module now. I have never been a big fan of dual wielding but I don't care if CCP implements it either :)


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