DUST Search - Death of the sniper rifle and need of a Respec

Vulpes Dolosus wrote:

calvin b wrote:

Vulpes Dolosus wrote:

calvin b wrote:

Is it me or did CCP just do away with the sniper rifle.

CCP said and I quote "railgun tech and are therefore the longest range weapons in the game, followed by laser weapons"

I love my sniper rifle and have spent a lot of SP to make it work. All I am asking is, if CCP does do away with the sniper rifle is for them to give me my SP back so I can spec into the railgun.

I have now joined the ranks of those who wish to have there SP refunded and tankers you may want to get inline as well.

"Longest range [of the damage types.]"

They weren't talking about "of all the weapons," it just means for weapons of similar class (the infantry rifle, in this case), it will out range lasers, projectile, and hybrid weapons.

You're sniper is fine.

Thats not what they said it says and I quote. "As a part of their introduction to the game we also plan to rejig the rifle range profiles in line with the weapon type. Rail Rifles are hybrid GÇô railgun tech and are therefore the longest range weapons in the game, followed by laser weapons, projectile weapons and then hybrid GÇô blaster weapons

If this is just for assault rifles, that is fine. But it needs to be clarified by CCP. Just going off of what they wrote.

(PSSST: the sniper is a railgun....)

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calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 753	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:08:00 - [1] - Quote Is it me or did CCP just do away with the sniper rifle. CCP said and I quote "railgun tech and are therefore the longest range weapons in the game, followed by laser weapons" I love my sniper rifle and have spent a lot of SP to make it work. All I am asking is, if CCP does do away with the sniper rifle is for them to give me my SP back so I can spec into the railgun. I have now joined the ranks of those who wish to have there SP refunded and tankers you may want to get inline as well.
Sleepy Zan Sumar Gorp 2609	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:11:00 - [2] - Quote wat I miss?
Vulpes Dolosus Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder. 143	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:15:00 - [3] - Quote calvin b wrote: Is it me or did CCP just do away with the sniper rifle. CCP said and I quote "railgun tech and are therefore the longest range weapons in the game, followed by laser weapons" I love my sniper rifle and have spent a lot of SP to make it work. All I am asking is, if CCP does do away with the sniper rifle is for them to give me my SP back so I can spec into the railgun. I have now joined the ranks of those who wish to have there SP refunded and tankers you may want to get inline as well. "Longest range [of the damage types.]" They weren't talking about "of all the weapons," it just means for weapons of similar class (the infantry rifle, in this case), it will out range lasers, projectile, and hybrid weapons. You're sniper is fine.
calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 753	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:15:00 - [4] - Quote Read the new post by CCP on weapons and ranges. It clearly says, the rail gun is soon to be the longest range weapon in the game.
Clips A'hoy The Generals EoN. 54	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:17:00 - [5] - Quote Uhm... No... A Sniper Rifle is a railgun... Most Caldari weapons if not all are railgun technology. What they're saying is that railgun weapons over every weapon of that specific class will have the longest range. They're not doing away with anything.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 649	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:17:00 - [6] - Quote I got no clue WTF you are talking about the Rail rifle has the same optimal range as the scram rifle but only 6 meters more effective range at the proto level. So is a weapon with 6 more meters than the current highest rifle going to kill the sniper rifle?
calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 753	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:18:00 - [7] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: calvin b wrote: Is it me or did CCP just do away with the sniper rifle. CCP said and I quote "railgun tech and are therefore the longest range weapons in the game, followed by laser weapons" I love my sniper rifle and have spent a lot of SP to make it work. All I am asking is, if CCP does do away with the sniper rifle is for them to give me my SP back so I can spec into the railgun. I have now joined the ranks of those who wish to have there SP refunded and tankers you may want to get inline as well. "Longest range [of the damage types.]" They weren't talking about "of all the weapons," it just means for weapons of similar class (the infantry rifle, in this case), it will out range lasers, projectile, and hybrid weapons. You're sniper is fine. Thats not what they said it says and I quote. "As a part of their introduction to the game we also plan to rejig the rifle range profiles in line with the weapon type. Rail Rifles are hybrid GÇô railgun tech and are therefore the longest range weapons in the game, followed by laser weapons, projectile weapons and then hybrid GÇô blaster weapons If this is just for assault rifles, that is fine. But it needs to be clarified by CCP. Just going off of what they wrote.
Sleepy Zan Sumar Gorp 2610	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:19:00 - [8] - Quote calvin b wrote: Read the new post by CCP on weapons and ranges. It clearly says, the rail gun is soon to be the longest range weapon in the game. The palm is touching face
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 404	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:20:00 - [9] - Quote From shortest to longest in weapon "type" ranges: Shortest Plasma (Gallente) Projectile (Minmatar) Laser (Amarr) Railgun (Caldari) It is talking about its damage type not the weapon itself. Also the current sniper rifle is railgun tech. Besides this only applies to Racial versions of the Assault rifles. The sniper has no reason to be removed because there are no other racial versions to compare it to.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1142	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:22:00 - [10] - Quote your first mistake calvin was thinking ccp even remembers the sniper rifle. sniper rifle will be exactly the same as it was because ccp doesn't care enough to even nerf them. total neglect is the term i would use for sniper rifles

Prius Vecht Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 171	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:22:00 - [11] - Quote relax bro, look at the sniper rifles in the game now. most are caldari.
Vulpes Dolosus Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder. 144	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:23:00 - [12] - Quote calvin b wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: calvin b wrote: Is it me or did CCP just do away with the sniper rifle. CCP said and I quote "railgun tech and are therefore the longest range weapons in the game, followed by laser weapons" I love my sniper rifle and have spent a lot of SP to make it work. All I am asking is, if CCP does do away with the sniper rifle is for them to give me my SP back so I can spec into the railgun. I have now joined the ranks of those who wish to have there SP refunded and tankers you may want to get inline as well. "Longest range [of the damage types.]" They weren't talking about "of all the weapons," it just means for weapons of similar class (the infantry rifle, in this case), it will out range lasers, projectile, and hybrid weapons. You're sniper is fine. Thats not what they said it says and I quote. "As a part of their introduction to the game we also plan to rejig the rifle range profiles in line with the weapon type. Rail Rifles are hybrid GÇô railgun tech and are therefore the longest range weapons in the game, followed by laser weapons, projectile weapons and then hybrid GÇô blaster weapons If this is just for assault rifles, that is fine. But it needs to be clarified by CCP. Just going off of what they wrote. (PSSST: the sniper is a railgun....)
calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 753	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:23:00 - [13] - Quote XANDER KAG wrote: From shortest to longest in weapon "type" ranges: Shortest Plasma (Gallente) Projectile (Minmatar) Laser (Amarr) Railgun (Caldari) It is talking about its damage type not the weapon itself. Also the current sniper rifle is railgun tech. CCP said it is soon to be the longest range weapon in the game. That means it will out range or replace the sniper rifle. That is what I am getting from CCP.
Clips A'hoy The Generals EoN. 54	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:25:00 - [14] - Quote calvin b wrote: XANDER KAG wrote: From shortest to longest in weapon "type" ranges: Shortest Plasma (Gallente) Projectile (Minmatar) Laser (Amarr) Railgun (Caldari) It is talking about its damage type not the weapon itself. Also the current sniper rifle is railgun tech. CCP said it is soon to be the longest range weapon in the game. That means it will out range or replace the sniper rifle. That is what I am getting from CCP. It wont LOL! It's quite evident that a Sniper Rifle has more range than an Assault Rifle. From the railgun class the Sniper Rifle will be the longest from that specific class [E.g. Caldari].
Sleepy Zan Sumar Gorp 2610	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:25:00 - [15] - Quote calisk galern wrote: your first mistake calvin was thinking ccp even remembers the sniper rifle. sniper rifle will be exactly the same as it was because ccp doesn't care enough to even nerf them. total neglect is the term i would use for sniper rifles why would they need nerf, they are fine as is.
Sleepy Zan Sumar Gorp 2610	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:27:00 - [16] - Quote calvin b wrote: XANDER KAG wrote: From shortest to longest in weapon "type" ranges: Shortest Plasma (Gallente) Projectile (Minmatar) Laser (Amarr) Railgun (Caldari) It is talking about its damage type not the weapon itself. Also the current sniper rifle is railgun tech. CCP said it is soon to be the longest range weapon in the game. That means it will out range or replace the sniper rifle. That is what I am getting from CCP. Bro, it's time to stop posting.
Dust Junky 4Life Intara Direct Action Caldari State 83	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:27:00 - [17] - Quote calvin b wrote: Is it me or did CCP just do away with the sniper rifle. CCP said and I quote "railgun tech and are therefore the longest range weapons in the game, followed by laser weapons" I love my sniper rifle and have spent a lot of SP to make it work. All I am asking is, if CCP does do away with the sniper rifle is for them to give me my SP back so I can spec into the railgun. I have now joined the ranks of those who wish to have there SP refunded and tankers you may want to get inline as well. LMAO haaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaa haaaaaaaaaa :) U are now forced to come off your pedestal, and fight like a man. and NO NO NO respecs
calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 753	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:28:00 - [18] - Quote Also guys if the rail rifle is the sniper rifle than why does it have Iron sights. Also the effective range is only going to be 102 and the ScR is 90 and the AR is 78 how the F*** is the rail gun a sniper rifle. Just please break it down barney style, because I am not getting where any of this says the rail gun is a sniper rifle. The rail gun is replacing the sniper rifle for CCP said it will be the longest range weapon in the game.
Dust Junky 4Life Intara Direct Action Caldari State 83	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:30:00 - [19] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: calvin b wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: calvin b wrote: Is it me or did CCP just do away with the sniper rifle. CCP said and I quote "railgun tech and are therefore the longest range weapons in the game, followed by laser weapons" I love my sniper rifle and have spent a lot of SP to make it work. All I am asking is, if CCP does do away with the sniper rifle is for them to give me my SP back so I can spec into the railgun. I have now joined the ranks of those who wish to have there SP refunded and tankers you may want to get inline as well. "Longest range [of the damage types.]" They weren't talking about "of all the weapons," it just means for weapons of similar class (the infantry rifle, in this case), it will out range lasers, projectile, and hybrid weapons. You're sniper is fine. Thats not what they said it says and I quote. "As a part of their introduction to the game we also plan to rejig the rifle range profiles in line with the weapon type. Rail Rifles are hybrid GÇô railgun tech and are therefore the longest range weapons in the game, followed by laser weapons, projectile weapons and then hybrid GÇô blaster weapons If this is just for assault rifles, that is fine. But it needs to be clarified by CCP. Just going off of what they wrote. (PSSST: the sniper is a railgun....) Why you ruin the fun? :(
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1077	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:31:00 - [20] - Quote Rendering killed the Sniper Rifle months ago. (I can see people on the hill when not scoped. Scope in and I can see the terrain they're standing on, but no targets. Scope out, still there.)

Dexter307 the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 464	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:35:00 - [21] - Quote OP is beyond stupid
Sleepy Zan Sumar Gorp 2611	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:39:00 - [22] - Quote calvin b wrote: Also guys if the rail rifle is the sniper rifle than why does it have Iron sights. Also the effective range is only going to be 102 and the ScR is 90 and the AR is 78 how the F*** is the rail gun a sniper rifle. Just please break it down barney style, because I am not getting where any of this says the rail gun is a sniper rifle. The rail gun is replacing the sniper rifle for CCP said it will be the longest range weapon in the game. Wha...how'd you...damn it, there goes the last bit of faith I had in humanity.
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 191	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:41:00 - [23] - Quote You can't be serious with this thread... Many have said you the same thing and yet you remain confused over a simple matter. CA Gauss Rifle please note that it's full auto and will have: less range than the sniper rifle more range than a scrambler rifle It's a new weapon category (Gauss/rail) and as such get's it's own pistol, smg, assault rifle etc.
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 176	Posted - 2013.10.25 14:04:00 - [24] - Quote Lol...Everyone in this post as the right idea but you, snipers, rail rifles, forge guns, rail guns, all caldari tech, all railgun based, all of these weapons will have longer range than their laser/projectile/blaster counterparts. This is true already as I haven't an HMG that has longer range than a forge gun or a blaster turret that has longer range than a rail turret. What are you complaining about, your sniper rifle is railgun tech, your sniper rifle has been proclaimed to have longer range than any other gun of its class, and furthermore, THERE ARE NO OTHER GUNS OF ITS CLASS. There's no other infantry based single shot weapon that's meant to hit people at such long range with that kind of precision, maybe the only thing that will join its ranks is the precision rifle but even then the caldari sniper rifle will have longer range. Sniper rifles will most likely not be touched because there's not really anything to compare it to, if they do get touched then it will be a buff because I don't see a sniper rifle getting a 1 hit headshot kill with anything now with all of the armor on the field, and I definitely think sniper rifles should OHKO anything that's not built like a heavy IF it's a headshot. Right now unless you have your gun heavily damage buffed It's just more of an annoyance than a real threat.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1144	Posted - 2013.10.25 14:12:00 - [25] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: calisk galern wrote: your first mistake calvin was thinking ccp even remembers the sniper rifle. sniper rifle will be exactly the same as it was because ccp doesn't care enough to even nerf them. total neglect is the term i would use for sniper rifles why would they need nerf, they are fine as is. they wouldn't nerf it, they wouldn't buff it, they will never touch them again I suspect. that is the nature of the current sniper rifles.
Sleepy Zan Sumar Gorp 2611	Posted - 2013.10.25 14:14:00 - [26] - Quote calisk galern wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: calisk galern wrote: your first mistake calvin was thinking ccp even remembers the sniper rifle. sniper rifle will be exactly the same as it was because ccp doesn't care enough to even nerf them. total neglect is the term i would use for sniper rifles why would they need nerf, they are fine as is. they wouldn't nerf it, they wouldn't buff it, they will never touch them again I suspect. that is the nature of the current sniper rifles. maybe because they're fine as is
Taurion Bruni D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 190	Posted - 2013.10.25 14:15:00 - [27] - Quote Quote: As a part of their introduction to the game we also plan to rejig the rifle range profiles in line with the weapon type. Rail Rifles are hybrid GÇô railgun tech and are therefore the longest range weapons in the game, followed by laser weapons, projectile weapons and then hybrid GÇô blaster weapons. In the chart below you can see how they stack up Vs one another he means to say for the assault riffle class, notice that the laser weapons come next? I am sure that the sniper riffle will still shoot further than them...
Thumb Green Novashift 486	Posted - 2013.10.25 14:16:00 - [28] - Quote calvin b wrote: Also guys if the rail rifle is the sniper rifle than why does it have Iron sights. Also the effective range is only going to be 102 and the ScR is 90 and the AR is 78 how the F*** is the rail gun a sniper rifle. Just please break it down barney style, because I am not getting where any of this says the rail gun is a sniper rifle. The rail gun is replacing the sniper rifle for CCP said it will be the longest range weapon in the game. The rail rifle is an assault rifle hybrid-railgun; the sniper rifle is a sniper rifle hybrid-railgun. They're two separate weapon classes (AR / Sniper) of the same type (hybrid-railgun) and of all the types hybrid-railguns have the longest range.
Meeko Fent expert intervention Caldari State 1283	Posted - 2013.10.25 14:27:00 - [29] - Quote calvin b wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: calvin b wrote: Is it me or did CCP just do away with the sniper rifle. CCP said and I quote "railgun tech and are therefore the longest range weapons in the game, followed by laser weapons" I love my sniper rifle and have spent a lot of SP to make it work. All I am asking is, if CCP does do away with the sniper rifle is for them to give me my SP back so I can spec into the railgun. I have now joined the ranks of those who wish to have there SP refunded and tankers you may want to get inline as well. "Longest range [of the damage types.]" They weren't talking about "of all the weapons," it just means for weapons of similar class (the infantry rifle, in this case), it will out range lasers, projectile, and hybrid weapons. You're sniper is fine. Thats not what they said it says and I quote. "As a part of their introduction to the game we also plan to rejig the rifle range profiles in line with the weapon type. Rail Rifles are hybrid GÇô railgun tech and are therefore the longest range weapons in the game, followed by laser weapons, projectile weapons and then hybrid GÇô blaster weapons If this is just for assault rifles, that is fine. But it needs to be clarified by CCP. Just going off of what they wrote. Rail Rifle=Caldari Assault Rifle. Sniper Rifle=Caldari Sniper Rifle. Does that answer your question? Reason we know this is that CCP what stated that the Rail Rifle and the Combat Rifle will be the new ARs
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1561	Posted - 2013.10.25 14:34:00 - [30] - Quote "Using microscale railgun technology, the sniper rifle effectively weaponizes velocity, putting an inert round downrange in excess of 2500m/s. The standard round is a 2-inch 'beehive' flechette, loaded automatically from a center-mount pack. The pack design eliminates user intervention and minimises reload time while simultaneously allowing for future upgradeability; different ammunition configurations require nothing more than switching out the rifle's pack.'' Just re-read the SRs description. Guys, look at the last sentence. Interchangeable ammo configurations. Long range nanite injection shots, anyone?



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