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Rowdy Railgunner
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2013.10.23 20:23:00 -
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You do gotta love the push to get people to buy all of the BPOs before they took them off the market, just to threaten us with their removal a week later. Signs of a game going places. |
Rowdy Railgunner
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2013.10.23 20:49:00 -
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CCP would have to refund me cold hard cash if they removed BPOs. |
Rowdy Railgunner
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Posted - 2013.10.23 21:06:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Rowdy Railgunner wrote:CCP would have to refund me cold hard cash if they removed BPOs. Sony doesn't allow refunds beyond PSN cash.
Well then CCP can't remove BPOs. Problem solved. |
Rowdy Railgunner
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Posted - 2013.10.23 22:04:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Here's another tidbit for those who say "do it the EVE way" ... CCP is actually trying to phase that out. New modules, for example, are released through controlled drops of BPC. They are still pushing this with the goal of taking back control of the economy/making the AUR store contain more temporary power ups, even after burn jita. So I would not bet on the EVE structure coming to DUST, since CCP doesn't like it in EVE already. I agree that CCP seems incapable of understanding what people want to spend money on. But BPCs are still manufacturable in Eve, just limited run. They could impose a weekly resetting limit on our current BPOs in Dust. There are reasonable ways to subtly change it without ripping us off.
No there isn't. Any change to BPOs now is a slap in the face to customers.
CCP Frame wrote:So donGÇÖt forget to take advantage of the in-game market now to secure items that you may need before they are gone from the in-game store!
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112962&find=unread
This is why I wrote the Nerf BPOs thread is this is why CCP keeps getting worse and worse. They tell you one thing then instantly change it. If it was related to in game SP ISK related gear, yeah sure change it. But when you purposefully lead the customer on and then try to switch the product after the sale. Well there are laws against that. |
Rowdy Railgunner
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2013.10.23 22:23:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:
And they used to advertise Ghost Training in Eve as a Feature. Then, when they realized it was hitting them in the wallet, they back-peddled, and called it an Unintentional Bug that was getting fixed.
I'm not saying I disagree with you, but I'm saying that they will do what they think best for their bottom line. If we as players could at least force a compromise, to limit our loss, then that will be the best for all of us.
Then CCP just straight up lies to their customers. Why would they allow that post if they knew that in less than a month later they were going to say BPOs where going to go away. And why would they use the fact that the 10 yr CE came with BPOs for DUST? That would mean it was lie, and could be punishable because it can be argued that it caused damages. Would I have payed real money to get the BPOs that they were pushing because of them being removed from the market, if I knew that under a month later they were going to announce that they were thinking of getting rid of them? No, so right there that causes me distress.
Either way lying as a company is far worse for a bottom line than a few BPOs are. |
Rowdy Railgunner
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2013.10.23 22:26:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Rowdy Railgunner wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:
And they used to advertise Ghost Training in Eve as a Feature. Then, when they realized it was hitting them in the wallet, they back-peddled, and called it an Unintentional Bug that was getting fixed.
I'm not saying I disagree with you, but I'm saying that they will do what they think best for their bottom line. If we as players could at least force a compromise, to limit our loss, then that will be the best for all of us.
Then CCP just straight up lies to their customers. Why would they allow that post if they knew that in less than a month later they were going to say BPOs where going to go away. And why would they use the fact that the 10 yr CE came with BPOs for DUST? That would mean it was lie, and could be punishable because it can be argued that it caused damages. Would I have payed real money to get the BPOs that they were pushing because of them being removed from the market, if I knew that under a month later they were going to announce that they were thinking of getting rid of them? No, so right there that causes me distress. Either way lying as a company is far worse for a bottom line than a few BPOs are. You really should read dust's and Sonys EULA.
And you should read about some cases where companies purposefully mislead customers. |
Rowdy Railgunner
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2013.10.23 22:51:00 -
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My beef is about the deceptive practices, not the actual items. You can't EULA away lying to your customers when real money is involved. If CCP knew that they were going to announce they want to get rid of BPOs, then don't scam people into buying them right before you announce that. And don't expect people to be fine with it either when you do. |
Rowdy Railgunner
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2013.10.23 23:21:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Rowdy Railgunner wrote:My beef is about the deceptive practices, not the actual items. You can't EULA away lying to your customers when real money is involved. If CCP knew that they were going to announce they want to get rid of BPOs, then don't scam people into buying them right before you announce that. And don't expect people to be fine with it either when you do. Everyone knew once the open market came that the BPOs would change. Also the reason why BPOs were taken off with little notice is because of the new EP which promised to get the open market up ASAP. It's not like CCP is doing this to fk you over. They're doing this so they can finally get this game where it was supposed to be months ago. Oh and BPOs are coming back just in a different way (Probably more like how EVEs BPOs work. Then don't tell your customers to buy these items today, while withholding the fact that you are going to be removing them tomorrow. Do you see my point, or are you arguing against me just because you don't like me?
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Rowdy Railgunner
Kang Lo Directorate
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Posted - 2013.11.21 03:37:00 -
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Need to bump this because people laughed, now it is happening. The argument that, "I don't own that or this BPO so it doesn't effect me and I don't care" doesn't matter. They are starting down the road I foresaw, and unless you want to be swindled, ignore me. If not we need to shout at the top of our lungs that CASH IS THE ONLY REFUND WE WILL ACCEPT. Take every unit of AURUM from the BPOs you refund and put it into my PS account, not your shady business. I DON'T WANT AUR REFUND, I WANT CASH REFUND! |
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