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Knight Soiaire
P.O.I.N.T.L.E.S.S A.C.R.O.N.Y.M
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:40:00 -
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Are these just rumours? Or is there an actual source saying ARs will be nerfed/changed? |
The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1287
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:42:00 -
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Just AR users freaking out because there magical good at all ranges weapon is getting split up into multiple rifles.
So because they are no longer going to have the most versatile gun in the game, they scream nerf like babies.
They are getting nerfed I guess, but in a completely necessary and totally cool way.
They don't see it that way though. Anything that impacts there ability to dominate the spectrum of ranges is what they want, and they won't give it up without a whole lot of crying. |
Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
11
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:47:00 -
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As an AR user I welcome the AR change. But that may also be because I'm not a filthy kill-*****...
Sincerely, a Logibro. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2210
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:12:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Just AR users freaking out because there magical good at all ranges weapon is getting split up into multiple rifles.
So because they are no longer going to have the most versatile gun in the game, they scream nerf like babies.
They are getting nerfed I guess, but in a completely necessary and totally cool way.
They don't see it that way though. Anything that impacts there ability to dominate the spectrum of ranges is what they want, and they won't give it up without a whole lot of crying.
Funny you say that, the only ones Ive seen crying nerf are the guys getting killed by the AR and pretty much all of us that do use it as a main weapon say bring on the changes, it wont stop us from killing you My money is on you guys crying the rail rifle needs a nerf when its released since we will be killing you from even farther away now |
The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1289
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:14:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:
Funny you say that, the only ones Ive seen crying nerf are the guys getting killed by the AR and pretty much all of us that do use it as a main weapon say bring on the changes, it wont stop us from killing you My money is on you guys crying the rail rifle needs a nerf when its released since we will be killing you from even farther away now
Hmmm, a tanker is going to be worried about a rifle?
Tell me more, because you obviously know so much. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1063
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:16:00 -
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Choose wisely |
Bleeding Knight
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
57
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:23:00 -
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An old chart about Weapon range freaked people out. |
Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
347
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:49:00 -
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I'm just stoked to finally get my Combat Rifle
And lets face it, all the other rifles are gonna be really cool too. Plus if your chosen rifle isn't quite what you want there will still be variants to swap and change around with.
The battlefield's gonna be a really interesting place when they arrive. "He's got a Rail Rifle - get in closer.... S*#*! Its the assault!!" LOL |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2211
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:54:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
Funny you say that, the only ones Ive seen crying nerf are the guys getting killed by the AR and pretty much all of us that do use it as a main weapon say bring on the changes, it wont stop us from killing you My money is on you guys crying the rail rifle needs a nerf when its released since we will be killing you from even farther away now
Hmmm, a tanker is going to be worried about a rifle? Tell me more, because you obviously know so much.
Sad thing is Ive run tanks back to the red line just by hopping on them and shooting a couple rifle rounds at the tank Then there was that time when I blew up a tank with an SMG but that was after throwing everything else I had at it and the thing pulled through all that with like a hundred health but its rep was on cool down and it was starting to drive away from me in a straight line with its weak spot right there so I went for it and got lucky |
The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1293
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:58:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:
Sad thing is Ive run tanks back to the red line just by hopping on them and shooting a couple rifle rounds at the tank Then there was that time when I blew up a tank with an SMG but that was after throwing everything else I had at it and the thing pulled through all that with like a hundred health but its rep was on cool down and it was starting to drive away from me in a straight line with its weak spot right there so I went for it and got lucky
Cool story bro.
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2211
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Posted - 2013.10.23 15:05:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Delta 749 wrote:
Sad thing is Ive run tanks back to the red line just by hopping on them and shooting a couple rifle rounds at the tank Then there was that time when I blew up a tank with an SMG but that was after throwing everything else I had at it and the thing pulled through all that with like a hundred health but its rep was on cool down and it was starting to drive away from me in a straight line with its weak spot right there so I went for it and got lucky
Cool story bro.
Isnt it, he sent me a mail accusing me of cheating after that happened but it does help offer an insight into the minds of certain types of tankers that believe they should be invincible |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1231
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Posted - 2013.10.23 15:06:00 -
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the current ar is a placeholder for the rail and combat rifles. there will probably be a range nerf, but the OP DPS will most liekly remain the same, which is good, because without it, the other rifles will be useless. |
Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
97
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Posted - 2013.10.23 15:10:00 -
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Not a nerf ,the Ar was a placeholder. Now your getting the variants and ar user are crying because the crutch is going. |
The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1298
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Posted - 2013.10.23 15:12:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:
Isnt it, he sent me a mail accusing me of cheating after that happened but it does help offer an insight into the minds of certain types of tankers that believe they should be invincible
Cool story bro.
Completely untrue, but I enjoy your watching you try and turn this into a tanker hate thing.
You must get stomped alot to be so mad at tanks. Given how soft tanks are, that makes you a serious scrub. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6363
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Posted - 2013.10.23 15:13:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Just AR users freaking out because there magical good at all ranges weapon is getting split up into multiple rifles.
So because they are no longer going to have the most versatile gun in the game, they scream nerf like babies.
They are getting nerfed I guess, but in a completely necessary and totally cool way.
They don't see it that way though. Anything that impacts there ability to dominate the spectrum of ranges is what they want, and they won't give it up without a whole lot of crying. Funny you say that, the only ones Ive seen crying nerf are the guys getting killed by the AR and pretty much all of us that do use it as a main weapon say bring on the changes, it wont stop us from killing you My money is on you guys crying the rail rifle needs a nerf when its released since we will be killing you from even farther away now Nah, we'll just exploit whatever weakness tha gun is going to have. Like the ScR, every rifle is going to have a draw back instead of being an across the map "I win button." Just speculating, but I think the rail rifle migh be horrble in CQC. Hope you're using more than a toxin. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
3449
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Posted - 2013.10.23 15:15:00 -
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As someone with AR Proficiency 4 and Fitting Optimization 4, I welcome the change.... but warily.
Reducing the range on the AR may prove very healthy for the game, but so long as the Assault Scrambler Rifle holds the same DPS than it's no contest what the next flavor of the month is going to be. There's no reason it should have the same DPS but a longer range, it'll only be a matter of time before it picks up as the latest trend. |
Cy Clone1
Cy CL0Ne 1
289
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Posted - 2013.10.23 15:18:00 -
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imagine if they just took out the regular variant of the ar! if only the breach, tac, and burst were left. That would be the best thing for balance. The full auto is honestly the easiest thing to use.
not sure what they are actually doing. |
Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
797
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Posted - 2013.10.23 15:18:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:I'm just stoked to finally get my Combat Rifle And lets face it, all the other rifles are gonna be really cool too. Plus if your chosen rifle isn't quite what you want there will still be variants to swap and change around with. The battlefield's gonna be a really interesting place when they arrive. "He's got a Rail Rifle - get in closer.... S*#*! Its the blaster rifle!!" LOL Fixed it for you
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2212
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Posted - 2013.10.23 15:26:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Delta 749 wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Just AR users freaking out because there magical good at all ranges weapon is getting split up into multiple rifles.
So because they are no longer going to have the most versatile gun in the game, they scream nerf like babies.
They are getting nerfed I guess, but in a completely necessary and totally cool way.
They don't see it that way though. Anything that impacts there ability to dominate the spectrum of ranges is what they want, and they won't give it up without a whole lot of crying. Funny you say that, the only ones Ive seen crying nerf are the guys getting killed by the AR and pretty much all of us that do use it as a main weapon say bring on the changes, it wont stop us from killing you My money is on you guys crying the rail rifle needs a nerf when its released since we will be killing you from even farther away now Nah, we'll just exploit whatever weakness tha gun is going to have. Like the ScR, every rifle is going to have a draw back instead of being an across the map "I win button." Just speculating, but I think the rail rifle migh be horrble in CQC. Hope you're using more than a toxin.
Unless they do something idiotic and fix the numbers on the rail rifle to match the laser rifle I dont see that happening Even the lowered rate of fire isnt as much of a hindrance as you might think it could be, after all if the breach is supposed to be the RRs stand in for now the biggest problem with that is the range, not the damage, clip size, or ROF Hell the only thing I can think of besides what I mentioned that might hold it back in CQC is if they slap a scope on it with a ridiculous amount of zoom in which case Ill just have to kill anyone that gets close with a SMG
Oh no, whatever shall I do with these options and planning my fitting to shore up any weak spots at close to mid range |
CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
432
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Posted - 2013.10.23 15:28:00 -
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i once compared the ar to other weapons like the assault scrambler and smg.
first i started out by firing a full clip of that std ar into that wall without touching the controls.
the ar climbed up the wall pretty fast it was a pretty large gap but not something u will notice when shooting at other players.
i then tested the ascr.
it had far less climb than the ar.
when i tested the smg. no climb what so ever.
so how does the ar have the least recoil of all the other guns in this or what ever its called?
it has the highest in the game.
i only put little sp into smg and only enough to unlock the ascr.
my proficiency on the ar is maxed along with operation.
and alot of the other skills with in it are at level 3 or higher.
and now the many times ive killed with that std ar or gek 38.
most of the kills were in the 40m range.
my less common is in the 50-60m range, rare kills or kill steals are in the 70m range.
at this range the ar is only doing small amounts of damage to you. since most of the rounds r missing at this range. |
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Raz Warsaw
Capital Acquisitions LLC Public Disorder.
36
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Posted - 2013.10.23 15:47:00 -
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Cosgar
ParagonX
6365
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Posted - 2013.10.23 16:06:00 -
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I better damn sight not see any of you crying about the ScR between now and 1.7 |
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
284
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Posted - 2013.10.23 16:12:00 -
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Yeah. |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
541
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Posted - 2013.10.23 16:24:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Just AR users freaking out because there magical good at all ranges weapon is getting split up into multiple rifles.
So because they are no longer going to have the most versatile gun in the game, they scream nerf like babies.
They are getting nerfed I guess, but in a completely necessary and totally cool way.
They don't see it that way though. Anything that impacts there ability to dominate the spectrum of ranges is what they want, and they won't give it up without a whole lot of crying. Funny you say that, the only ones Ive seen crying nerf are the guys getting killed by the AR and pretty much all of us that do use it as a main weapon say bring on the changes, it wont stop us from killing you My money is on you guys crying the rail rifle needs a nerf when its released since we will be killing you from even farther away now My money is on the rail rifle having a ****-poor hipfire and DPS, but a really long range and great accuracy. |
Knight Soiaire
P.O.I.N.T.L.E.S.S A.C.R.O.N.Y.M
2721
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Posted - 2013.10.23 16:38:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Just AR users freaking out because there magical good at all ranges weapon is getting split up into multiple rifles.
So because they are no longer going to have the most versatile gun in the game, they scream nerf like babies.
They are getting nerfed I guess, but in a completely necessary and totally cool way.
They don't see it that way though. Anything that impacts there ability to dominate the spectrum of ranges is what they want, and they won't give it up without a whole lot of crying. Funny you say that, the only ones Ive seen crying nerf are the guys getting killed by the AR and pretty much all of us that do use it as a main weapon say bring on the changes, it wont stop us from killing you My money is on you guys crying the rail rifle needs a nerf when its released since we will be killing you from even farther away now
I'm a Shotgun Scout.
Good luck trying to kill me CQC with that thing.
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Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1066
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Posted - 2013.10.23 16:51:00 -
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I have ar pro 3 scramblers pro 5 honestly idc...I say cya ar I welcome the rail and combat rifles maybe you should have saved some sp? I can go proto in both or get 1 to pro 5 I'm ready why should we have a respec just for ar users? Lmao get real its your turn for not getting a respec just like everyone else...I'm okay with the sp I wasted in ar pro 3 I new it was a place holder |
Joel II X
AHPA
51
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Posted - 2013.10.23 17:00:00 -
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I just hope I won't have to spend much when they come out. I mean, I'll be relying on passives lol but I would like to give the tactical another shot in the future. What rifles are the the Gallente gaining? What do they do? |
Lightning xVx
R 0 N 1 N
278
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Posted - 2013.10.23 17:32:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Just AR users freaking out because there magical good at all ranges weapon is getting split up into multiple rifles.
So because they are no longer going to have the most versatile gun in the game, they scream nerf like babies.
They are getting nerfed I guess, but in a completely necessary and totally cool way.
They don't see it that way though. Anything that impacts there ability to dominate the spectrum of ranges is what they want, and they won't give it up without a whole lot of crying.
Haha cant wait for the "nerf shotgun" threads AHH makes me smile. :) |
Vitharr Foebane
Blood Money Mercenaries
137
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Posted - 2013.10.23 19:31:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:I just hope I won't have to spend much when they come out. I mean, I'll be relying on passives lol but I would like to give the tactical another shot in the future. What rifles are the the Gallente gaining? What do they do? LOL they are "gaining" the true blaster rifle, short range high dps. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2324
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Posted - 2013.10.23 19:34:00 -
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Then people will start crying about the Combat rifle.
And the QQ train will move on as it did.
Then Rail Rifle.
People cry about anything that kills them, such is the nature of the typical FPS player. |
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GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
436
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Posted - 2013.10.23 19:56:00 -
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60% of player base uses AR> CCP will balance AR's> AR users will QQ and threaten to QQ> CCP will Buff AR's> Rinse repeat for 10 years.
DUST 514 is dead Long Live AR 514! |
Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
122
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Posted - 2013.10.23 19:57:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:As someone with AR Proficiency 4 and Fitting Optimization 4, I welcome the change.... but warily.
Reducing the range on the AR may prove very healthy for the game, but so long as the Assault Scrambler Rifle holds the same DPS than it's no contest what the next flavor of the month is going to be. There's no reason it should have the same DPS but a longer range, it'll only be a matter of time before it picks up as the latest trend.
I have done a decent amount of testing with both AR and AScr using a commando suit. Over 20 meters the AR dominates the AScr because of Aim Down Sight dispersion. You are more than welcome to make the switch, but don't be shocked at how your EFFECTIVE DPS is much much lower at range than a GEK or Duvolle. |
Dachande Anasazi
DUST University Ivy League
32
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Posted - 2013.10.23 19:58:00 -
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I don't think AR needs a nerf...jsut give LOVE to the OTHER weapons...
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2108
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Posted - 2013.10.23 20:09:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:i once compared the ar to other weapons like the assault scrambler and smg.
first i started out by firing a full clip of that std ar into that wall without touching the controls.
the ar climbed up the wall pretty fast it was a pretty large gap but not something u will notice when shooting at other players.
i then tested the ascr.
it had far less climb than the ar.
when i tested the smg. no climb what so ever.
so how does the ar have the least recoil of all the other guns in this or what ever its called?
it has the highest in the game.
i only put little sp into smg and only enough to unlock the ascr.
my proficiency on the ar is maxed along with operation.
and alot of the other skills with in it are at level 3 or higher.
and now the many times ive killed with that std ar or gek 38.
most of the kills were in the 40m range.
my less common is in the 50-60m range, rare kills or kill steals are in the 70m range.
at this range the ar is only doing small amounts of damage to you. since most of the rounds r missing at this range. AR has a sharpshooter skill and hipfiring the AR is less accurate but ADS it is more accurate then AScR I believe. |
GET ATMESON
Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder.
149
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Posted - 2013.10.23 20:47:00 -
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So CCP loves the AR players but they **** on tankers,scouts, and heavys?
CCP: " lets change the AR"
Players: " fix tanks,scouts and give heavys something new to play with."
CCP: "what was that? Change the AR"
Players :" NO GIVE US WHAT WE ASKED FOR"
CCP: "ok we will change the AR. Thank you for your input"
Ghost : "thats not what they asked. CCP your rude"
Players " Why do I try." *Hope gets smaller and smaller*
I hope the new AR is what you guys really want but you know when CCP messes with anything ITS JUNK after words. Ill call this out now. Players using the new AR with be all over the forums saying "new AR suck. buff please" |
Vitharr Foebane
Blood Money Mercenaries
137
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Posted - 2013.10.23 21:06:00 -
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GET ATMESON wrote:So CCP loves the AR players but they **** on tankers,scouts, and heavys?
CCP: " lets change the AR"
Players: " fix tanks,scouts and give heavys something new to play with."
CCP: "what was that? Change the AR"
Players :" NO GIVE US WHAT WE ASKED FOR"
CCP: "ok we will change the AR. Thank you for your input"
Ghost : "thats not what they asked. CCP your rude"
Players " Why do I try." *Hope gets smaller and smaller*
I hope the new AR is what you guys really want but you know when CCP messes with anything ITS JUNK after words. Ill call this out now. Players using the new AR with be all over the forums saying "new AR suck. buff please" As a HMG heavy, all I have to say is this... HTFU! What goes around, comes around... |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2110
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Posted - 2013.10.23 21:08:00 -
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GET ATMESON wrote:So CCP loves the AR players but they **** on tankers,scouts, and heavys?
CCP: " lets change the AR"
Players: " fix tanks,scouts and give heavys something new to play with."
CCP: "what was that? Change the AR"
Players :" NO GIVE US WHAT WE ASKED FOR"
CCP: "ok we will change the AR. Thank you for your input"
Ghost : "thats not what they asked. CCP your rude"
Players " Why do I try." *Hope gets smaller and smaller*
I hope the new AR is what you guys really want but you know when CCP messes with anything ITS JUNK after words. Ill call this out now. Players using the new AR with be all over the forums saying "new AR suck. buff please" Vehicle improvements planned, Scout improvements planned, and heavies don't have anything planned from what I hear. Also they are not only changing the AR because they felt like it but because they are releasing the racial rifle variants with the ar adjustments. |
BARDAS
DUST University Ivy League
716
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Posted - 2013.10.23 21:10:00 -
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I ain't gonna lie. I'm extremely biased. I hope the AR is getting a big old ass whooping like the copy machine in Office Space in an upcoming patch. |
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