No.

I just played DUST, my tank got ripped to shreds by a Wiyrkomi SL which I couldn't see, he dealt 20k damage, keep firing even as I was seeking cover, until my repper was down, still he was firing, boom, I was gone.

There was also a blueberry sitting in my front turret firing at every object he could, including friendly NULL cannons, the road in front of us, hills, those big circular (water storage?) structures, the MCC, enemy NULL cannons, trucks, pipelines, etc. and generally making a huge ruckus and alerting every enemy in a 100m radius to my presence.

After the game I felt like making a thread suggesting we change SLs, introduce countermeasures, buff tanks, buff shields, and implement an eject button for vehicle passengers.

I typed it up, and I felt like rereading what I had written, and realised something: What if half the suggestions on this forum were made in the aftermath of a disgusting, annoying game?

I mashed backspace and that thread was never born.

Shield tank so I can melt your faces quicker with my Lazer. Different damage types are are more affect against shield or armor. It has been this way since well as long as Dust has existed. It is one of the things that seperate Dust from other FPS. You have to make a choice what your strenghts and what your weakness are. Yet this *Noob* wants to come in and complain about it. Not going to change it is a Core Mechanic of the gameplay.

I would rather see the explosive damage in line with what it's supposed to be.

Its not the grenades fault you're not smart enough to dual tank and instead put all your defense into one thing

Its not the grenades fault you're not smart enough to dual tank and instead put all your defense into one thing

Yeah right shield extenders on gallente suits. What are you smoking? Dogcrap? And your comment indicates that shield is supposed to be better then armor. You would probs cry all day if flux grenades where aible to 1 hit kill you.

If a caldari suit is hit by a flux grenade then they will either have to run away or die incredibly fast. But since you want explosive damage to have the same effectiveness in both shields and armour then I guess laser rifles, scrambler rifles and scrambler pistols should also be able to rip through armour the way they do to shields?

I just played DUST, my tank got ripped to shreds by a Wiyrkomi SL which I couldn't see, he dealt 20k damage, keep firing even as I was seeking cover, until my repper was down, still he was firing, boom, I was gone.

in short, you finally know how to fit tank properly but you still lack awareness and driving skills.

you overextended and allowed him to hit you with 7 swarm volleys. thats over 15 seconds of continous shooting from the swarm guy, plenty of time to get out into cover unless you were right in the middle of an open field in which case you failed and deserve the loss

You do know that every precident in new eden has dual tanking being the worst possible choice for every situation. Hell there is an space on reddit that is full of dual tank fittings for eve, its called r/shitfits.

Decrease blast radius by 1m
Decrease damage by 100 except for sleek grenades
Only 2 grenades, 1 with militia
Mabey not all at once, but a mix of 2 or even just 1 of these would help.

Mad shield tanker right there to defend his crutch.

I'm not a shield tanker but I think the resistances that both shield and armor have are fine as they are. After the armor buff I've thought that things are pretty balanced. Taking away another major advantage to shields wouldn't be necessary. They would then only be resistant to SMG and MD and weak to everything else. I think? Someone correct me if I'm forgetting something haha.

Mad shield tanker right there to defend his crutch.

Wouldnt work cause core locus would still deal 500hp base damage which is inreality 650HP against armor and merly 350HP against shields. Your proposed "fix" would benefit shield tankers much more cause a caldari militia suit with 2 complex extenders could survive then a core locus grenade. While my gallente gk.0 with over 600HP on armor still gets 1 hit killed.

Except you are forgetting that Dust is incomplete. If there is a grenade that rips through armor but has difficulty going through shields, then there should also be a grenade available that does the opposite (strong against shields, weaker vs armor).

This is something they probably tried doing with flux grenades, however fluxes do not balance out locus grenades because their mechanics differ entirely and thus, have different roles on the battlefield.

So the choices available are not balanced which ends up screwing people over for unknowingly making the wrong decision.

Not entirely accurate. Grenades do way more damage than that. How many times have I killed a fully tanked heavy with a single nade? Well, many.

It might be that the game gives a direct+splash damage if you hit close enough, or it can be a matter of headshot bonus, I dunno. I even took out Trackys fancy pants assault suit at max health with a single M1 nade, it exploded virtually on his nosetip.

Nades should get a nerf across the board IMO, nade spam has been the norm in Dust for far too long now. Amount carried should be reduced to 2 and there shouldn't be anything stronger than the M1s IMO.

When it goes to giving different damage to different armor types I don't agree. Perhaps tone it down a little to maybe 20% or something. I would like to keep the variable damage in Dust as it makes it harder to choose between armor and shield tanking = a more diverse game is a more fun game.

(Didn't see you post the same sort of suggestion when you were king of the hill with the old laser destroying all the shield tanked suits with the OP Viziam...)

You do know that every precident in new eden has dual tanking being the worst possible choice for every situation. Hell there is an space on reddit that is full of dual tank fittings for eve, its called r/shitfits.

Yeah right shield extenders on gallente suits. What are you smoking? Dogcrap? And your comment indicates that shield is supposed to be better then armor. You would probs cry all day if flux grenades where aible to 1 hit kill you.

Allmost every armor tanked suit in the game has no chance to survive a core locus grenade. Why? Because grenades deal 30% more damage against armor. So a core locus grenade effectively deals 780HP against armor. Which means if you dont put 4 complex plates on your low slots you will allways be 1 hit killed regardless what you do. And on the other hand they do 30% less damage against shield which means they deal effectivley 420HP. In my opinion grenades should do the same damage against shields and armor. What this means is it should do 600HP damage against shields AND armor.