That's what you get for shield tanking


and as a side note, i usually fire 1 charge shot immediately followed by 2-5 shots after to make sure i get the kill

or atleast make them run away

Or he might be running a Militia fit :p

guess i wasnt far off...

Thats not a really sturdy fit considering most of us run either 2 or 3 damage mods, heavies like that don't have enough EHP to stop headshots from swatting it like an andvanced scout, it wouldnt be much diffrent if you meet a Duvolle with 3 damage mods either.

Standard SCR's will eat up that little HP that you have if you run standard fits. Most users run either an ADV or Proto SCR, so OF COURSE you wil die in the blink of an eye. With a fit like that, you don't stand a chance against a good SCR user.

Smh. Flawed logic based on your obvious preferences and/or shortcomings is still flawed.

Well you sound like an able guy, surely you wont have any problems to HTFU in the face of a newly discovered threat?

Yeah HMG spray & pray vs AR Spray & Pray, i can see why you come out ahead there ...most people forget to keep tracking their opponents at all times when firing the AR, most SCR users don't.

Though sounds like both fits fair better though vs diffrent opponents, maybe thats the point ?

Are you talking about SCRs or ASCRs? I will assume SCRs

So what is your total EHP of the suits you are running? Im sorry but saying that you are using two basic shield extenders leads me to believe that its quite low and would get torn to pieces by any weapon. You would have to give me hard data on any of this before I actually believed you.

You would be complaining about TACs as well if the ROF wasnt gimped with a half-azzed mechanic. Compared to the TAC of old, the SCR is a nerf gun. I have prof 4 and always run a damage mod with mine and it still takes me at least one cool down cycle to take out a half decent heavy fit.. If you havent booked it out of there before the weapon cools down or I have switched to my SMG then the death is completely on you.

You act like the overheat feature is the only thing that is a blancing agent for the SCR
- Requires actual aim rather than spamming the fire button
- Has one of the highest fitting costs even as the basic level
- Is biased toward shields
- Annnnnd overheats

Rei nailed it. Good SCR users will hit you hard first, then methodically pick you apart if you have no cover to run to. Being a heavy, if you are at a distance, you are dead. Period.

And btw....I still see way more AR's still running around and that will never change tbh. SCR is not currently FOTM, as you so lovingly put it. I'm a day 1 user as well and I play enough to know that what you say is simply not true. You just sound upset that there is an emergence of use of the gun and that it has taken you out a few times. Still takes skill to use effectively.

Pff I run 700 on my meatshield logi

There is a concept called "skill ceiling". The skill ceiling on the SCR is higher than on the AR. Go figure.

Nice strawman there buddy.
Correlation =/= causation.

Tbh...you QQ alot about SCR's. Didn't you make another similar thread about a month ago?

Stop dying. Learn some awareness.

Me: but its not easy to always land that shot. Its a skill weapon, just like the scrambler pistol. Besides, why couldn't it be better than the ar? Why are you not saying that the ar is the fotm?

There's an emerging plasma cannon community. Is that because the plasma cannon is overpowered?

Do you realise how screwed the SCR user is if they miss that shot?
Where is this 89% coming from?

a lot of math

When I fire my charge shot its almost always followed by a volley of at least 2 more single shots, especially for heavies since its very easy to track them.

Maybe thats what you're going against.

don't blame the thread I just wanted to know if the damage from the SCR had been tested to be accurate against armor as intended.

dust has been known to get things wrong, so this could of been one of those cases.

As Tiberius stated, this is about perception. Given that someone can volley a charged shot and about 2-3 regular shots in about half a second it might just be that you are noticing the depletion with a delay.

Also, is this in a strict 1v1 scenario or is there the possibility that you are being engaged by multiple opponents? There has been an instance where I thought I was one shotted by a Militia AR but it was the fact that the AR user was lucky enough to squeeze the trigger the same time as I got head shotted by a Charge Sniper rifle. Without actual data (which CCP wont give us) all of this information is circumstantial and subjective.

Also, the reason that some people seem like easy kills for an SCR is that many are still using cheap fits that are still leaning very much toward shield tanking.

Lets say you have a 500 EHP Caldari Assault that has 380 Shields and 120 Armor.

Without the charged shot you can probably get around 8 shots off.

Standard Shot 1 - 106 damage (274 shield remaining, 120 armor)
Standard Shot 2 - 106 damage (168 shield remaining, 120 armor)
Standard Shot 3 - 106 damage (62 shield remaining, 120 armor)
Standard Shot 4 - 106 damage (0 shield remaining, 76 armor) *used full shield dmg for easier math
Standard Shot 5 - 71 damage (0 shield remaining, 5 armor)
Standard Shot 6 - DEAD

Anything less than that as far as EHP and its like tearing through a wet paper bag.

And my math does not even account for a headshot bonus to damage.

Im pretty sure that there is a difference between shield/armor from experience as I have more trouble with gallente, amarr and heavies than with caldari and minnies. However, I am not sure if their math is accurate in terms of carryover damage (when a shot depletes shields and remaining damage goes to armor)