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Wallaby1
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.10.22 06:00:00 -
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HAVS & dropships THERE TO DAMN EXPENSIVE why are they so damn expensive?? theres no need for them to be so high priced when they do jackcr@p against forge guns and av!! AV would not be an issue if Vehicles weren't so damn expensive!! in my personal opinion lowering the price of tanks and dropships would be a silver bullet to the AV vs Vehicle BS , honestly what do you guys think? would more vehicles on the field be a bad thing? it would mean more points for AV users and less rage from the vehicle users who lose 10 games worth of cash for every good vehicle >:C |
Wallaby1
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.10.22 06:16:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Wallaby1 wrote:HAVS & dropships THERE TO DAMN EXPENSIVE why are they so damn expensive?? theres no need for them to be so high priced when they do jackcr@p against forge guns and av!! In that case lower the cost of Assault and scout dropsuits because we can't kill sniper that are on top of buildings and they kill us all the time. I know the HAV user have it bad but the argument of i can't kill something and i am self entitled to be able to kill everything so fix it,that is ridiculous. Forge and Anti-Vechile is the HAV drivers weakness why do you feel you should be able to just easily roll over them, they are hard to kill for a reason, because they are designed to be killing you.
you are taking me the wrong way , i like vehicles as they are now not overpowering but still can dish out pain i also think the AV is almost spot on , my issue is that vehicles are way to overpriced i dont find it very fair that i lose so damn mutch for 1 vehicle , basicly im saying cheaper vehicles = more vehicles in every match which = more fun!!! instead of the same old infantry run and gun every game :C |
Wallaby1
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.10.22 06:28:00 -
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So when you go shopping in real life for a car do you complain that it is over priced? Cause a simole thing like a pedestrian can killI it? Or that your jeans are cheap so the car must cost less to compensate for that fact? Vehicles are larger than suits. Strongerthan suits and obviously cost more to transport. So the cost is fine. Jist remeber that if thier is av on the field don't drop a tank.
Problem solved. [/quote]
lol ridiculous argument point .a) ITS A GAME point .b) it should be fun , it isnt point .c) dont drop if theres AV?......might aswell remove vehicles then !!! |
Wallaby1
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.10.22 06:42:00 -
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Jade Dragonis wrote:Tectonious Falcon wrote:People seem to be misunderstanding here.
OP wants vehicles to cost less, because right now the impact they have on a match does not justify their cost. If a 20,000 ISK or whatever forge gun on the enemy team is enough to stop someone from bringing in a 500,000 ISK + vehicle that would have a minimal impact anyway then something is wrong in terms of balance.
We'll have to wait and see what CCP does with vehicles in the next few patches though. And yet Duna2002 and Blackheart555 run tanks and three proto forge guns couldn't kill them. They work well together and with thier squad. They always stomp. So maybe its the driver and not the tank.
i would agree with that , but that is basically stating that only advanced players can pilot vehicles with maximum success whilst all the newer players cannot even attempt to run vehicles due to the massive lose of income! |
Wallaby1
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.10.22 06:43:00 -
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Cenex Langly wrote:Wallaby1 wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Wallaby1 wrote:HAVS & dropships THERE TO DAMN EXPENSIVE why are they so damn expensive?? theres no need for them to be so high priced when they do jackcr@p against forge guns and av!! In that case lower the cost of Assault and scout dropsuits because we can't kill sniper that are on top of buildings and they kill us all the time. I know the HAV user have it bad but the argument of i can't kill something and i am self entitled to be able to kill everything so fix it,that is ridiculous. Forge and Anti-Vechile is the HAV drivers weakness why do you feel you should be able to just easily roll over them, they are hard to kill for a reason, because they are designed to be killing you. you are taking me the wrong way , i like vehicles as they are now not overpowering but still can dish out pain i also think the AV is almost spot on , my issue is that vehicles are way to overpriced i dont find it very fair that i lose so damn mutch for 1 vehicle , basicly im saying cheaper vehicles = more vehicles in every match which = more fun!!! instead of the same old infantry run and gun every game :C If they were not at their price, then this game would be "World of Tanks" and everyone would drive them and it would not be a shooter or AR 514, as it is now. They are priced that way because with a tank you can go 16 v 1 and survive, unless a specialized character comes in with AV to kill you.
yes but if you think about it if vehicles were cheaper there would be no hesitation to call in a tank to combat an enemy tank ! if dropships were also cheaper there would be no hesitation to use them offensively!! |
Wallaby1
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.10.22 06:47:00 -
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Jade Dragonis wrote:Wallaby1 wrote:
So when you go shopping in real life for a car do you complain that it is over priced? Cause a simole thing like a pedestrian can killI it? Or that your jeans are cheap so the car must cost less to compensate for that fact? Vehicles are larger than suits. Strongerthan suits and obviously cost more to transport. So the cost is fine. Jist remeber that if thier is av on the field don't drop a tank.
Problem solved.
lol ridiculous argument point .a) ITS A GAME point .b) it should be fun , it isnt point .c) dont drop if theres AV?......might aswell remove vehicles then !!!
A science fiction game. Fictional story based on scienctific possibilites. This isn't a fantasy game.
And when I loose tanks I grind and get more. Stuff happens. But if vehicles get cheaper then all you'll ever see is vehicles. Goodbye infantry.
Man up a little. Dust isn't for kittens.  [/quote]
yeah well tough guy all i see is infantry , and i dont want to play another COD infantry only game |
Wallaby1
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.10.22 06:52:00 -
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Wallaby1 wrote:Jade Dragonis wrote:Wallaby1 wrote:
So when you go shopping in real life for a car do you complain that it is over priced? Cause a simole thing like a pedestrian can killI it? Or that your jeans are cheap so the car must cost less to compensate for that fact? Vehicles are larger than suits. Strongerthan suits and obviously cost more to transport. So the cost is fine. Jist remeber that if thier is av on the field don't drop a tank.
Problem solved.
lol ridiculous argument point .a) ITS A GAME point .b) it should be fun , it isnt point .c) dont drop if theres AV?......might aswell remove vehicles then !!! A science fiction game. Fictional story based on scienctific possibilites. This isn't a fantasy game. And when I loose tanks I grind and get more. Stuff happens. But if vehicles get cheaper then all you'll ever see is vehicles. Goodbye infantry. Man up a little. Dust isn't for kittens.
yeah well tough guy all i see is infantry , and i dont want to play another COD infantry only game [/quote]
ridiculous argument , if a team overused vehicles the opposing team would go berzerk mode on AV and i dont no if youve noticed but you cant hack with a tank! |
Wallaby1
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.10.22 23:23:00 -
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote:!!! I have seen players go 59 and 1 !!! - it was a normal game with full teams, and I was the only person to kill him.
What vehicle has ever done that!?
A fully spec tank needs only to worry about fully spec AV. Lower tier AV is really only annoying before it has a chance to become dangerous. Same with dropships. In my experience vehicles are either nearly unstoppable or laughably destructible. But the same goes for suits, there is no middle ground. It seems that top tier players clean house, or a suit is easy to kill.
This is just the way it feels, I am not saying that this is unbalanced. But this is the most important aspect, how does the game feel? And let me tell you, three assault FGs on a tower doesn't feel very nice.
yeah i deffinately dont want to see tanks going 59-1 kd hahaha which is why i think they SHOULDNT be uberbuffed they should be reduced in price though!!! |
Wallaby1
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.10.22 23:41:00 -
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote:I agree, a price drop would alleviate the issue of only seeing top tier vehicles.
But how do you stop abuse?
Maybe if you had a skill that decreased isk cost? But this may only make top tiers more prevalent when the goal is to see vehicles on both sides ebb and flow across the field. I want to see dynamic balance and have a fun war. I don't want to learn how to play against cheese tactics.
Just a point, nothing separates a Starcraft 2 champion from a bronze league hero other than the skill of manipulating the controls and prediction of the opponents moves.
Time spent playing is what separates you in dust, not just skill. It's like fighting a UFC champ after karate summer camp--good luck.
i understand peoples concern with cheaper vehicles but how often do you actually pull out your AV suit? once a match........once a day? if vehicles were cheaper wed see more on the field which would result in alot more AV specialists which would balance out any possible spam , think back to the days of the free LAV it was a swarm users glory days!! |
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