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Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
308
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Posted - 2013.10.21 20:04:00 -
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SMG for suits with high movement speed,scram pistol for everyone else. |
Soldier of Mawat
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
201
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Posted - 2013.10.21 20:54:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:SMG.
It's pretty much a baby AR.
Just having shorter range.
I'm contemplating putting 2 comp sidearm mods on an ADV Gallente frame for AV or just running primary SMG.
I'm think primarying SMG for the lulz.
I made a dual SMG fit for the lulz and I gotta say that it's a deadly fit. For mine I have a six kin as primary and a standard as a secondary, this is on a dragonfly assault suit so I could only fit a basic as a secondary. 2 of my corpmates and I decided to run proto SMGs as primaries for the lulz, and we ended up having a combined score of 109 kills, 19 deaths, and about 7000 WP. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
818
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Posted - 2013.10.21 21:00:00 -
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Make sure your weapons compliment each other, use the right weapon for the right situation. |
Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
793
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Posted - 2013.10.21 21:13:00 -
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1) ishukone assault smg
2) because it rapes heavies
3) I use a caldari assault |
Knight Soiaire
P.O.I.N.T.L.E.S.S A.C.R.O.N.Y.M
2705
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Posted - 2013.10.21 21:59:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Flaylock Don't fall for this trap, flaylock is terrible 1. Burst scrambler pistol 2. Dem headshots. I have proficiency lvl 5 so one burst to the head does 782 damage to shields, and 522 to armor. 3. pistol if you have good aim, otherwise SMG Flaylock is still good. Learn2Aim You're telling a scrambler pistol user "learn2aim" while talking about a splash dmg weapon...
Damn right I am.
The Flaylock is still useful, people just expect it to shoot nukes like it used to. |
negative49er
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
278
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Posted - 2013.10.21 22:07:00 -
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I use an all sidearm fit on my minmatar assault. I use the scrambler for long range and the smg for close corner |
Dexter307
the unholy legion of darkstar
DARKSTAR ARMY
459
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Posted - 2013.10.21 22:11:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Flaylock Don't fall for this trap, flaylock is terrible 1. Burst scrambler pistol 2. Dem headshots. I have proficiency lvl 5 so one burst to the head does 782 damage to shields, and 522 to armor. 3. pistol if you have good aim, otherwise SMG Flaylock is still good. Learn2Aim You're telling a scrambler pistol user "learn2aim" while talking about a splash dmg weapon... Damn right I am. The Flaylock is still useful, people just expect it to shoot nukes like it used to.
Its only useful when the enemy has little to no health left, and in that situation the scrambler pistol is still better |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1962
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Posted - 2013.10.21 22:18:00 -
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Erth Deteis wrote:Scrambler Pistol vs SubMachineGun, which of the two??
1) if you use a secondary, what do you use?
2) Why?
3)what do you think is better on a Assault caldari?
Help me please, thanks
I use a weapon that completes your damage types or complements your weapon range.
Assault scrambler Rifle : Flaylock Pistol
Scrambler Rifle : SMG
Laser Rifle : Assault SMG
As you can see while using the ASCR that is a FAST RoF weapon with good range i complement it with a low RoF for CQ Side arm.
The Scrambler Rifle , Being a Semi Auto weapon (in my case Low RoF) with long ranged capacity, i use a FAST RoF weapon for CQ.
The LAser Rifle is a Long range ONLY weapon,so for MID RANGE and CQ the obvious option for me is the Assault SMG, that covers mid range decently and CQ effectivley.
The SCrambler weapon i Double weild it in my ''gunman'' stealth logi or Use it Paired with my Asault Mass Driver ( For obvious reasons XD)
Now i must admit my Scrambler rifle is being paired ith Flaylock ATM but its more of a Damage bonus thing (SCR 120% Shields FP 120% Armor)
So basically , your side arm depends entirely on your MAIN weapon...
My 0.02 ISK |
Knight Soiaire
P.O.I.N.T.L.E.S.S A.C.R.O.N.Y.M
2705
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Posted - 2013.10.21 22:24:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:
Its only useful when the enemy has little to no health left, and in that situation the scrambler pistol is still better
Of course its only useful when the enemy has little health.
Its a sidearm.
Its what they're made for.
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1962
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Posted - 2013.10.21 22:26:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Dexter307 wrote:
Its only useful when the enemy has little to no health left, and in that situation the scrambler pistol is still better
Of course its only useful when the enemy has little health. Its a sidearm. Its what they're made for.
Well Mr Sun-bro. Dont be to hasty.
I'be Dual wielded Both SMG's And S.Pistols and have Good results....
Put an ISHI SMG and a backup SMG on a Matari Assault with 2 Cx Sidearm Dam mods and have fun shredding ANYTHING at CQ XD |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3455
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Posted - 2013.10.21 22:28:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Dexter307 wrote:
Its only useful when the enemy has little to no health left, and in that situation the scrambler pistol is still better
Of course its only useful when the enemy has little health. Its a sidearm. Its what they're made for. Well Mr Sun-bro. Dont be to hasty.I'be Dual wielded Both SMG's And S.Pistols and have Good results.... Put an ISHI SMG and a backup SMG on a Matari Assault with 2 Cx Sidearm Dam mods and have fun shredding ANYTHING at CQ XD
Sunbro is right. Sun bro is always right. PRAISE THE SUN -Solaire of Astora |
Knight Soiaire
P.O.I.N.T.L.E.S.S A.C.R.O.N.Y.M
2706
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Posted - 2013.10.21 22:31:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Dexter307 wrote:
Its only useful when the enemy has little to no health left, and in that situation the scrambler pistol is still better
Of course its only useful when the enemy has little health. Its a sidearm. Its what they're made for. Well Mr Sun-bro. Dont be to hasty.I'be Dual wielded Both SMG's And S.Pistols and have Good results.... Put an ISHI SMG and a backup SMG on a Matari Assault with 2 Cx Sidearm Dam mods and have fun shredding ANYTHING at CQ XD
But Sidearms are meant to be finishers, and the Flaylock is good at that, I use it on some of my Shotty fits because its more reliable than my Primary to finish off an enemy.
I'm being honest now, if there was one thing I'd buff on the Flaylock, its the direct. Thats it.
There is no point in going for direct with the Flaylock. Its harder, and its easier to completely miss. |
Dexter307
the unholy legion of darkstar
DARKSTAR ARMY
459
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Posted - 2013.10.21 22:44:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Dexter307 wrote:
Its only useful when the enemy has little to no health left, and in that situation the scrambler pistol is still better
Of course its only useful when the enemy has little health. Its a sidearm. Its what they're made for.
The scrambler pistol can take down brick tanked protosuits with full health, same for the smg and even nova knives. The flaylock would have to reload, posibley more than once. |
JudoDog
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.10.21 22:45:00 -
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I use the 209 SMG, level 5 proficiency. It is noticeably better than the standard and 512 in my experience. I use it on a Minmatar advanced scout. I tried the pistols and got them to level 3, but as others have stated, it takes a lot of skill for headshots. I remember losing a 1v1 against another scout. He did a bunny hop and one shot me in the head with the pistol. That was right after losing a 1v1 against Roner General who evaded my SMG shots after I had got him down to a sliver of armor and also one shot me with a shotgun. I dropped the controller and said THAT is just awesome. Super skill. Soooo, the SMG is better for starting out. Much respect to anyone who can play scout/pistol and kick ass. That is serious hard mode. |
Dominus Fatali
Nox Aeterna Security
448
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Posted - 2013.10.21 23:06:00 -
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95% of the time, I'm a Gallente Scout with two Submachine Guns. Proficiency IV, Sharpshooter V. Able to spray people down in close quarters hipfire, and shreds people when aiming down sights at longer ranges (the ADS turn speed is too slow in my opinion). I personally prefer Normal variants over Assault, and I am absolutely horrible with Breach. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1968
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Posted - 2013.10.21 23:15:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
Sunbro is right. Sun bro is always right. PRAISE THE SUN -Solaire of Astora
''Sunbros are never right! They are Faithless weirdos.Now Polish my Toe Bones '' - PAPA NITO. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1968
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Posted - 2013.10.21 23:16:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:
But Sidearms are meant to be finishers, and the Flaylock is good at that, I use it on some of my Shotty fits because its more reliable than my Primary to finish off an enemy.
I'm being honest now, if there was one thing I'd buff on the Flaylock, its the direct. Thats it.
There is no point in going for direct with the Flaylock. Its harder, and its easier to completely miss.
SIdearms are Mean to be , well side arms.Smaller weapons that you use to support your main.
Yes , most of the time they are finishers.
BUT DOESNT MEAN they can do the whole job by themselves. ;)
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1104
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Posted - 2013.10.21 23:23:00 -
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Do you like bad ass headshots? or do you like a mobile armor smelting machine? Both guns are great for finishing an enemy off if you spec into them, but I would say an SMG is better for close combat then a pistol, however the fitting requirements might change your mind too. Really just play with whatever your more comfortable with and you'll do fine regardless. |
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