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        |  Vegetation Monster
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
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      | Posted - 2013.10.20 21:58:00 -
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 I know this has been out for awhile. Have you guys ever seen proto swarms yet in a match? Oh wait, the FU*KING KILLFEED SAYS (roadkill).
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        |  Atiim
 Living Like Larry Schwag
 
 247
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.20 22:09:00 -
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 Vegetation Monster wrote:I know this has been out for awhile. Have you guys ever seen proto swarms yet in a match? Oh wait, the FU*KING KILLFEED SAYS (roadkill). I know!
 
 I want everyone to know that I have proto swarms. Maybe build a reputation with said swarms. SMH I've killed so many loltanks that it isn't funny. But I get no praise because all it says is road kill.
 
 TBH at least the enemy team doesn't know that I have proto swarms. They'll just keep calling out tanks!
 
 Don't we all like a free 150 WP?
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        |  Vegetation Monster
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 33
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.20 22:16:00 -
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 Atiim wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:I know this has been out for awhile. Have you guys ever seen proto swarms yet in a match? Oh wait, the FU*KING KILLFEED SAYS (roadkill). I know! I want everyone to know that I have proto swarms. Maybe build a reputation with said swarms. SMH I've killed so many loltanks that it isn't funny. But I get no praise because all it says is road kill. TBH at least the enemy team doesn't know that I have proto swarms. They'll just keep calling out tanks! Don't we all like a free 150 WP? 
 I want people to know they got fuked in the ass with the OP and its not their fault...
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        |  KenKaniff69
 Subdreddit
 Test Alliance Please Ignore
 
 739
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 02:38:00 -
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 Atiim wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:I know this has been out for awhile. Have you guys ever seen proto swarms yet in a match? Oh wait, the FU*KING KILLFEED SAYS (roadkill). I know! I want everyone to know that I have proto swarms. Maybe build a reputation with said swarms. SMH I've killed so many loltanks that it isn't funny. But I get no praise because all it says is road kill. TBH at least the enemy team doesn't know that I have proto swarms. They'll just keep calling out tanks! Don't we all like a free 150 WP? Congrats swarm scrub. I soooo respect your fine aim an ability to walk right through by blaster fire. Glad you are able to deal over 10k damage without missing or reloading. Bravo, honorable swarm scrub.
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        |  Grimmiers
 0uter.Heaven
 
 258
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 02:44:00 -
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 KenKaniff69 wrote:Atiim wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:I know this has been out for awhile. Have you guys ever seen proto swarms yet in a match? Oh wait, the FU*KING KILLFEED SAYS (roadkill). I know! I want everyone to know that I have proto swarms. Maybe build a reputation with said swarms. SMH I've killed so many loltanks that it isn't funny. But I get no praise because all it says is road kill. TBH at least the enemy team doesn't know that I have proto swarms. They'll just keep calling out tanks! Don't we all like a free 150 WP? Congrats swarm scrub. I soooo respect your fine aim an ability to walk right through by blaster fire. Glad you are able to deal over 10k damage without missing or reloading. Bravo, honorable swarm scrub.  
 What if the missiles didn't track unless you still had the reticle on the tank. That way if someone kills the swarmer or they lose sight the swarms will just go haywire.
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        |  Bright Cloud
 Namtar Elite
 Gallente Federation
 
 245
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 03:46:00 -
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 Mad tanker is mad. You can kill any dropsuit in the game with 3 hits from a large blaster turret and you complain that swarms are too strong. I think that most guys just want a "lol easymode" vehicle to stomp everything in their way.
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        |  Flix Keptick
 Red Star.
 EoN.
 
 787
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 03:59:00 -
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 Bright Cloud wrote:Mad tanker is mad. You can kill any dropsuit in the game with 3 hits from a large blaster turret and you complain that swarms are too strong. I think that most guys just want a "lol easymode" vehicle to stomp everything in their way. Give me infantry seeking blaster shots that can do u-turns and follow you across the entire map and then we can call it even.
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        |  Meeko Fent
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 1236
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 04:02:00 -
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 Bright Cloud wrote:Mad tanker is mad. You can kill any dropsuit in the game with 3 hits from a large blaster turret and you complain that swarms are too strong. I think that most guys just want a "lol easymode" vehicle to stomp everything in their way. You seem to forget that the cheapest tank cost the same as the most expensive dropsuit, require a ton more fitting skill, and a ton more SP then a decently fit dropsuit.
 
 And, they can be 4-5HK by a 50k ISK piece of gear.
 
 If vehicles cost the same as dropsuits, then none would be wrong. But then the pricing would be odd.
 
 Oh, and most standard DSs require 5-7 shots to kill.
 
 Standard heavies take over ten shots.
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        |  Justin Tymes
 Dem Durrty Boyz
 Public Disorder.
 
 444
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 04:08:00 -
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 Meeko Fent wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:Mad tanker is mad. You can kill any dropsuit in the game with 3 hits from a large blaster turret and you complain that swarms are too strong. I think that most guys just want a "lol easymode" vehicle to stomp everything in their way. You seem to forget that the cheapest tank cost the same as the most expensive dropsuit, require a ton more fitting skill, and a ton more SP then a decently fit dropsuit.  And, they can be 4-5HK by a 50k ISK piece of gear.  If vehicles cost the same as dropsuits, then none would be wrong. But then the pricing would be odd.   Oh, and most standard DSs require 5-7 shots to kill.  Standard heavies take over ten shots.  
 A Militia Forge can take down a 20+ SP invested Proto Gallente Logi that costs 250k ISK+ in 1 shot. As it should.
 
 Cost should mean nothing when it comes to gameplay balance.
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        |  Xender17
 MoIden Heath PoIice Department
 EoN.
 
 816
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 04:18:00 -
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 Justin Tymes wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:Mad tanker is mad. You can kill any dropsuit in the game with 3 hits from a large blaster turret and you complain that swarms are too strong. I think that most guys just want a "lol easymode" vehicle to stomp everything in their way. You seem to forget that the cheapest tank cost the same as the most expensive dropsuit, require a ton more fitting skill, and a ton more SP then a decently fit dropsuit.  And, they can be 4-5HK by a 50k ISK piece of gear.  If vehicles cost the same as dropsuits, then none would be wrong. But then the pricing would be odd.   Oh, and most standard DSs require 5-7 shots to kill.  Standard heavies take over ten shots.  A Militia Forge can take down a 20+ SP invested Proto Gallente Logi that costs 250k ISK+ in 1 shot. As it should. Cost should mean nothing when it comes to gameplay balance. There is no balance so the whole argument on cost not mattering doesn't matter.
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        |  Justin Tymes
 Dem Durrty Boyz
 Public Disorder.
 
 444
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 05:49:00 -
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 Xender17 wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:Mad tanker is mad. You can kill any dropsuit in the game with 3 hits from a large blaster turret and you complain that swarms are too strong. I think that most guys just want a "lol easymode" vehicle to stomp everything in their way. You seem to forget that the cheapest tank cost the same as the most expensive dropsuit, require a ton more fitting skill, and a ton more SP then a decently fit dropsuit.  And, they can be 4-5HK by a 50k ISK piece of gear.  If vehicles cost the same as dropsuits, then none would be wrong. But then the pricing would be odd.   Oh, and most standard DSs require 5-7 shots to kill.  Standard heavies take over ten shots.  A Militia Forge can take down a 20+ SP invested Proto Gallente Logi that costs 250k ISK+ in 1 shot. As it should. Cost should mean nothing when it comes to gameplay balance. There is no balance so the whole argument on cost not mattering doesn't matter. 
 Cost has nothing to do with balance issues, so it's not relevant. You brought costs into this, like it has anything to do with balance or lack of it, when it doesn't. Swarms could cost 100,000,000 ISK and it would have nothing to do with whether or not Swarms are overpowered. Your logic is that because X costs more it should perform better.
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        |  Lynn Beck
 Granite Mercenary Division
 
 151
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 06:07:00 -
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 Cost does in fact matter. If we had a swarm launcher that cost 1 million isk, would anyone use it? No, they'd roll over and grab either a rail tank or av nades.
 Imagine if duvolles had a 500kisk cost? How may people would be demanding buffs to damage and range? Something tht costs multiple matches of isk should be as effective.
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        |  XxGhazbaranxX
 The New Age Outlaws
 
 436
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 06:41:00 -
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 I just get mad When I cant rub in everybody's face that I killed them with a plasma cannon... It's very hard to do. I think it's the only balanced weapon in the game. Killing a vehicle with a plasma cannon needs skill.
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        |  Atiim
 Living Like Larry Schwag
 
 259
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 12:59:00 -
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 KenKaniff69 wrote:Atiim wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:I know this has been out for awhile. Have you guys ever seen proto swarms yet in a match? Oh wait, the FU*KING KILLFEED SAYS (roadkill). I know! I want everyone to know that I have proto swarms. Maybe build a reputation with said swarms. SMH I've killed so many loltanks that it isn't funny. But I get no praise because all it says is road kill. TBH at least the enemy team doesn't know that I have proto swarms. They'll just keep calling out tanks! Don't we all like a free 150 WP? Congrats swarm scrub. I soooo respect your fine aim an ability to walk right through by blaster fire. Glad you are able to deal over 10k damage without missing or reloading. Bravo, honorable swarm scrub.  LOL
 
 Try doing so while the tank has good aim, and infantry are ripping your guts out at the same time, and then call me a scrub.
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        |  The Attorney General
 MoIden Heath PoIice Department
 EoN.
 
 1280
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 13:28:00 -
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 Atiim wrote:
 Try doing so while the tank has good aim, and infantry are ripping your guts out at the same time, and then call me a scrub.
 
 No, every swarm user is a scrub.
 
 There is no way using a fire and forget weapon is not the height of scrubbery.
 
 If someone wants my respect when they are in a medium or light frame, they need to kill me with a PLC.
 
 Just to cover this one more time, so we are clear:
 
 AV nades or swarms = scrub
 
 FG or PLC = not scrub
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        |  DeadlyAztec11
 Chatelain Rapid Response
 Gallente Federation
 
 2286
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 13:32:00 -
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 KenKaniff69 wrote:You have obviously never had to take the time to go all around the perimeter of the map avoiding snipers, with no protection besides a Scrambler Pistol. In a suit that barely has more HP than a scout. No back up. With a squad of protos around the tank.Atiim wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:I know this has been out for awhile. Have you guys ever seen proto swarms yet in a match? Oh wait, the FU*KING KILLFEED SAYS (roadkill). I know! I want everyone to know that I have proto swarms. Maybe build a reputation with said swarms. SMH I've killed so many loltanks that it isn't funny. But I get no praise because all it says is road kill. TBH at least the enemy team doesn't know that I have proto swarms. They'll just keep calling out tanks! Don't we all like a free 150 WP? Congrats swarm scrub. I soooo respect your fine aim an ability to walk right through by blaster fire. Glad you are able to deal over 10k damage without missing or reloading. Bravo, honorable swarm scrub.  
 
 
 
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        |  pegasis prime
 BIG BAD W0LVES
 
 1171
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 13:37:00 -
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 The Attorney General wrote:Atiim wrote:
 Try doing so while the tank has good aim, and infantry are ripping your guts out at the same time, and then call me a scrub.
 No, every swarm user is a scrub.  There is no way using a fire and forget weapon is not the height of scrubbery.  If someone wants my respect when they are in a medium or light frame, they need to kill me with a PLC.  Just to cover this one more time, so we are clear: AV nades or swarms = scrub FG or PLC = not scrub 
 Its not verry often I find myself agreeing with the general but in thus case he is more than right.... its funny how infantry cried soooo much sfter the aim bot/asist being lock on thusly requireing no skill but it happens to be a different oppinion to av .......swarms and or avnades =scrubbery at the highest degree .. even above tower forgers and snipers.
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        |  steadyhand amarr
 MoIden Heath PoIice Department
 EoN.
 
 1613
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 13:42:00 -
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 Standards verc thread on why they don't understand why people don't want one verc ***** slapping a whole team without counters
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        |  Beld Errmon
 The Southern Legion
 The Umbra Combine
 
 1017
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 13:56:00 -
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 standard thread alright, I'd say this is around the 1000th time i've seen the same things said on the same subject.
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        |  Duran Lex
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 349
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 13:57:00 -
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 The Attorney General wrote:Atiim wrote:
 Try doing so while the tank has good aim, and infantry are ripping your guts out at the same time, and then call me a scrub.
 No, every swarm user is a scrub.  There is no way using a fire and forget weapon is not the height of scrubbery.  If someone wants my respect when they are in a medium or light frame, they need to kill me with a PLC.  Just to cover this one more time, so we are clear: AV nades or swarms = scrub FG or PLC = not scrub 
 Tanks who use hardeners are scrubs.
 
 Real tankers roll around in paper mache.
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        |  The Attorney General
 MoIden Heath PoIice Department
 EoN.
 
 1280
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 14:24:00 -
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 Duran Lex wrote:
 Tanks who use hardeners are scrubs.
 
 Real tankers roll around in paper mache.
 
 I run a Hybrid Vayyu with no hardeners.
 
 Meanwhile you still need scrub AV.
 
 GOML.
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        |  Duran Lex
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 349
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 16:18:00 -
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 The Attorney General wrote:Duran Lex wrote:
 Tanks who use hardeners are scrubs.
 
 Real tankers roll around in paper mache.
 I run a Hybrid Vayyu with no hardeners.  Meanwhile you still need scrub AV.  GOML.  
 Yep, i know. You are the coolest kid in town.
 
 A tanking rockstar.
 
 Keep up the good fight sir, your ego needs it.
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        |  Jade Dragonis
 GRIM MARCH
 
 220
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 16:25:00 -
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 The Attorney General wrote:Atiim wrote:
 Try doing so while the tank has good aim, and infantry are ripping your guts out at the same time, and then call me a scrub.
 No, every swarm user is a scrub.  There is no way using a fire and forget weapon is not the height of scrubbery.  If someone wants my respect when they are in a medium or light frame, they need to kill me with a PLC.  Just to cover this one more time, so we are clear: AV nades or swarms = scrub FG or PLC = not scrub 
 Thanks. My forge usually gets me in trouble. And I stuggle to kill tanks with my proto assault one. Evem with 2 dmg mods.
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        |  The Attorney General
 MoIden Heath PoIice Department
 EoN.
 
 1280
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 16:40:00 -
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 Duran Lex wrote:
 Yep, i know. You are the coolest kid in town.
 
 A tanking rockstar.
 
 Keep up the good fight sir, your ego needs it.
 
 It is such a shame you have small swarm syndrome.
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        |  Duran Lex
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 349
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 17:10:00 -
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 The Attorney General wrote:Duran Lex wrote:
 Yep, i know. You are the coolest kid in town.
 
 A tanking rockstar.
 
 Keep up the good fight sir, your ego needs it.
 It is such a shame you have small swarm syndrome.  
 I don't use swarms.
 
 I Forge Gun.
 
 You always assume incorrectly.
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        |  Stinker Butt
 Pure Innocence.
 EoN.
 
 152
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.22 08:40:00 -
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 So real men use forge guns, and swarms are for pussies!?
 
 They each have strengths and weaknesses. I've been pretty successful against tanks with the forge, but with LAV's I prefer swarms. I do occasionally mix it up. Overall, I prefer the forge because of more versatility in being AV and Anti-infantry.
 
 
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        |  Obodiah Garro
 Tech Guard
 RISE of LEGION
 
 439
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.22 08:45:00 -
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 KenKaniff69 wrote:Atiim wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:I know this has been out for awhile. Have you guys ever seen proto swarms yet in a match? Oh wait, the FU*KING KILLFEED SAYS (roadkill). I know! I want everyone to know that I have proto swarms. Maybe build a reputation with said swarms. SMH I've killed so many loltanks that it isn't funny. But I get no praise because all it says is road kill. TBH at least the enemy team doesn't know that I have proto swarms. They'll just keep calling out tanks! Don't we all like a free 150 WP? Congrats swarm scrub. I soooo respect your fine aim an ability to walk right through by blaster fire. Glad you are able to deal over 10k damage without missing or reloading. Bravo, honorable swarm scrub.  
 Calling swarm a scrab hahah. Tell your mother she needs to leave my house soon, shes been swarmed way too much already.
 
 HAV is a crutch, when swarm users get 8k buffer I will let your mother stay over sexual favour free from now on.
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