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Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:10:00 -
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Im tierd of being scanned and kept at a distance in my fking scout suit... WHAT THE F*CK IS THE FU*KING POINT OF A SCOUT IF KEEP GETTING SCANNED!!! I put on one enhanced profile dampener but im still being lit on the enemies radar lie B!+<#!!! buff the scout, do something im fuking unsurvivable if i want to go under the radar (6 hits from a duvolle im dead) |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:14:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:I put on one enhanced profile dampener Bro, I put on one enhanced shield extender, and it makes almost no difference! It's like I need to use more or something. |
BARDAS
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:20:00 -
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I think 4 levels of Scout class suit and 3 levels of Profile Damp gets you under all the Advanced scanners. You were probably being scanned by someone with a proto scanner. Which is significantly hard to avoid. You would have to be in a Gallente Scout and packing a couple damps, which would kill your tank. Pretty stupid how its setup really. We seriously need to be straight up invisible to these things IMO. |
Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:22:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:I put on one enhanced profile dampener Bro, I put on one enhanced shield extender, and it makes almost no difference! It's like I need to use more or something.
i have level 5 profile dam, level 5 gallante scout... what more do i fking need!! |
Gooby FETUS
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:30:00 -
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You have been scaned.... every 0.5 sec ... Seriously, im gonna get Insane looking at that Red glowing phrase on my screen
The problem is that u need to spend a LOT of SP to prevent to be scanned, while you need little amount of SP to scan almost whatever you want. |
Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
25
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:31:00 -
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Gooby FETUS wrote:You have been scaned.... every 0.5 sec ...
The problem is that u need to spend a LOT of SP to prevent to be scanned, while you need little amount of SP to scan almost whatever you want.
+1, this is the same scenario with tanks, you gotta spend all your sp to get into them only to be destroyed by a 700k sp swarm launcher or FG thats worth 47k isk while your tank cost up to 2.6 million isk... |
Paran Tadec
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:52:00 -
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protodamps. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:54:00 -
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I can't tell who I'm scanning but from time to time I'll hide between two objectives and scan the **** out of them unless and until somebody can find me.
I don't get much reward for it... other than knowing I'm pissing people off! Heh. |
Hobo on Fire
Goonfeet Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.10.20 19:03:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:I put on one enhanced profile dampener Bro, I put on one enhanced shield extender, and it makes almost no difference! It's like I need to use more or something. i have level 5 profile dam, level 5 gallante scout... what more do i fking need!!
With those skills, you should already be avoiding ADV scanners. Any dampener module (even a standard) on a Gal scout should get you to where most proto scanners won't find you. The 15dB proto scanner will require at least two dampener modules to beat though. |
Oswald Rehnquist
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
319
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Posted - 2013.10.20 19:06:00 -
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I have some with one complex dampener and other builds with two just in case and that seems to work, I have the profile reduction skill max, no scout suit skilled into. I have never been scanned so far, though I do run with two complex damps 90% of the time. |
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
244
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Posted - 2013.10.20 20:03:00 -
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excuse me but only the minmatarr scout gets a bonus to profile dampening. The gallente scout simply increases your passive scanning capability. |
negative49er
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
273
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Posted - 2013.10.20 20:21:00 -
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BARDAS wrote:I think 4 levels of Scout class suit and 3 levels of Profile Damp gets you under all the Advanced scanners. You were probably being scanned by someone with a proto scanner. Which is significantly hard to avoid. You would have to be in a Gallente Scout and packing a couple damps, which would kill your tank. Pretty stupid how its setup really. We seriously need to be straight up invisible to these things IMO.
Maybe i been getting a lot of scan prevented since then but still get scan by something |
negative49er
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
273
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Posted - 2013.10.20 20:22:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:excuse me but only the minmatarr scout gets a bonus to profile dampening. The gallente scout simply increases your passive scanning capability.
There two skills
The scout suit bonus The race bonus |
Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
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Posted - 2013.10.20 20:37:00 -
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Level 5 of Scout (5% reduction of Suit Profile per level: 25% reduction) 45db base profile for all Scouts/Light frames. Standard Scanners: 46db Advanced Scanners: 36db Prototype Scanners: 26db Prototype Focused: 18db
45 * 0.75 = 33.75
Just level 5 of Scout gets you below Advanced scanners, so you're looking at someone running a Prototype. Which means they've also put at least significant effort into the profile game.
One Complex Dampener brings you below all scanners bar the Focused.
HTFU. |
Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
347
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Posted - 2013.10.20 20:43:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Gooby FETUS wrote:You have been scaned.... every 0.5 sec ...
The problem is that u need to spend a LOT of SP to prevent to be scanned, while you need little amount of SP to scan almost whatever you want. +1, this is the same scenario with tanks, you gotta spend all your sp to get into them only to be destroyed by a 700k sp swarm launcher or FG thats worth 47k isk while your tank cost up to 2.6 million isk...
Yeah, and you can spend a couple million sp for a proto set-up dropsuit which also costs a fair bit of isk and can be killed by MLT weapons which cost 0 sp and a few hundred isk.
Alternatively, we could continue true to your comparison and say a proto weapon which is about 700k sp, still less than a full proto dropsuit. Strange, isn't it?
See how useful and relevant that comment was to the thread? If you answered yes, you may want to leave the forums, if you answered no, you may want to rethink your comment. Stop cramming you're tanks in unrelated threads.
Back to OP, use more bro, I've got a scout with two enhanced that hasn't been scanned yet and can still pop a cap in some asses. |
Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
31
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Posted - 2013.10.20 21:50:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Gooby FETUS wrote:You have been scaned.... every 0.5 sec ...
The problem is that u need to spend a LOT of SP to prevent to be scanned, while you need little amount of SP to scan almost whatever you want. +1, this is the same scenario with tanks, you gotta spend all your sp to get into them only to be destroyed by a 700k sp swarm launcher or FG thats worth 47k isk while your tank cost up to 2.6 million isk... Yeah, and you can spend a couple million sp for a proto set-up dropsuit which also costs a fair bit of isk and can be killed by MLT weapons which cost 0 sp and a few hundred isk. Alternatively, we could continue true to your comparison and say a proto weapon which is about 700k sp, still less than a full proto dropsuit. Strange, isn't it? See how useful and relevant that comment was to the thread? If you answered yes, you may want to leave the forums, if you answered no, you may want to rethink your comment. Stop cramming your tanks in unrelated threads. Back to OP, use more bro, I've got a scout with two enhanced that hasn't been scanned yet and can still pop a cap in some asses.
You're talking about speccing to get into proto gear, us tankers can only get into STD gear except for the overpriced turrets. Also you can make a profit in a match even if you lose your proto suit, you have a choice after you die, either switch to starter fits or continue using proto- if you switch to militia gear you will make a profit. Us tankers don't have that, we die once and we are down 1 million isk. Also it doesn't take anything more than a milita suit and a ishukone Assault FG to down a well fitted madrugar.
Also fixed the you're mistake. Get educated brah. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1927
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Posted - 2013.10.20 21:57:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Im tierd of being scanned and kept at a distance in my fking scout suit... WHAT THE F*CK IS THE FU*KING POINT OF A SCOUT IF KEEP GETTING SCANNED!!! I put on one enhanced profile dampener but im still being lit on the enemies radar lie B!+<#!!! buff the scout, do something im fuking unsurvivable if i want to go under the radar (6 hits from a duvolle im dead)
6 HITS WOW!! i can only take 2 in my scout
NAh bro Scouts CANNOT survive vs scanners.
Better Go Logi Profile Tanking.Any of the 4 Logis will make short of scanner users , if you still want speed, go Proto Matari:
x2 Profile dampners (At leat ENH) x1 Comp Kin Cat x1 Cardiagc regulator, at least ENH X4 Shield Extenders Active scanner Weapon of choosing
This way you will run fast , for long, have enough profile dampening to avoid all but proto scanners, have HACKING bonus,default Armor repair, your own scanner,maybe R/E too,etc...
Basically Scout v2.0 |
Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
31
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Posted - 2013.10.20 21:59:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Im tierd of being scanned and kept at a distance in my fking scout suit... WHAT THE F*CK IS THE FU*KING POINT OF A SCOUT IF KEEP GETTING SCANNED!!! I put on one enhanced profile dampener but im still being lit on the enemies radar lie B!+<#!!! buff the scout, do something im fuking unsurvivable if i want to go under the radar (6 hits from a duvolle im dead) 6 HITS WOW!! i can only take 2 in my scoutNAh bro Scouts CANNOT survive vs scanners.Better Go Logi Profile Tanking.Any of the 4 Logis will make short of scanner users , if you still want speed, go Proto Matari:x2 Profile dampners (At leat ENH) x1 Comp Kin Cat x1 Cardiagc regulator, at least ENH X4 Shield Extenders Active scanner Weapon of choosingThis way you will run fast , for long, have enough profile dampening to avoid all but proto scanners, have HACKING bonus,default Armor repair, your own scanner,maybe R/E too,etc...Basically Scout v2.0
Matari? minmitar caldari? |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1927
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Posted - 2013.10.20 22:01:00 -
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Minmatar Logi bro. MINMATAR logi... ;) |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1927
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Posted - 2013.10.20 22:01:00 -
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Kallas Hallytyr wrote:Level 5 of Scout (5% reduction of Suit Profile per level: 25% reduction) 45db base profile for all Scouts/Light frames. Standard Scanners: 46db Advanced Scanners: 36db Prototype Scanners: 26db Prototype Focused: 18db
45 * 0.75 = 33.75
Just level 5 of Scout gets you below Advanced scanners, so you're looking at someone running a Prototype. Which means they've also put at least significant effort into the profile game.
One Complex Dampener brings you below all scanners bar the Focused.
HTFU.
You HTFU. A Proto scout with a SINGLE proto dampner should be completely invisible,with NO counter. |
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles
1571
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Posted - 2013.10.20 22:05:00 -
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You should just scan them back.
When I get scanned its like thank you I am now aware I am being hunted by a raging pack of homos. |
Gooby FETUS
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
11
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Posted - 2013.10.21 13:15:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Gooby FETUS wrote:You have been scaned.... every 0.5 sec ...
The problem is that u need to spend a LOT of SP to prevent to be scanned, while you need little amount of SP to scan almost whatever you want. +1, this is the same scenario with tanks, you gotta spend all your sp to get into them only to be destroyed by a 700k sp swarm launcher or FG thats worth 47k isk while your tank cost up to 2.6 million isk... Yeah, and you can spend a couple million sp for a proto set-up dropsuit which also costs a fair bit of isk and can be killed by MLT weapons which cost 0 sp and a few hundred isk..
That doesn't even make any sense. If you get killed by a militia weapon and you're using a Proto suit/weapon that means that you suck at this game. The only fair reason would be if you are geting shot by 2 or more enemies or if you are almost dead and some guy come across you and kill you. |
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