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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
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Posted - 2013.10.20 02:28:00 -
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Good ol' Doom Bunnies threads
Yes, THIS is Dust! |
Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.10.20 02:35:00 -
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Anarchide wrote:Good ol' Doom Bunnies threads Yes, THIS is Dust!
Nope this is BUST XP |
Jayquan18
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.10.20 02:40:00 -
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Once the PS4 come out Dust 514 will lose a large amount of players, especially when Planetside 2 launches for the PS4. |
Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.10.20 02:45:00 -
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Jayquan18 wrote:Once the PS4 come out Dust 514 will lose a large amount of players, especially when Planetside 2 launches for the PS4.
Thats true. I spent SOME time in dust and in PL2 and i can tell you. Laging game full of unbalance mediocre gameplay, with toons of bugs vs. Realtime massive playing with day/night cycle and balanced gameplay. Choose is just on you. Im really sad long time ago i saw in Dust something like Mag succesor, but game like this. Boyo PS4 with titles like Planetside2, Blacklight: retribution, Destiny, Hawken. Right now Dust loosing in many ways. CCP should start doing somethimg more that just givin us empty promises. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.20 02:46:00 -
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i'm guessing the op doesn't do a whole lot of reading.
you should give a look to the predictions about ccp from 2003 perhaps.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.10.20 02:51:00 -
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low genius wrote:i'm guessing the op doesn't do a whole lot of reading. you should give a look to the predictions about ccp from 2003 perhaps.
Boyo i told that before. I told:"There will be big crisis in dust." and gues what, most of playerbase was like:"No you are wrong.", then i just wait. And now BooM, toons of implemented stuff, no balance aroud at all. Maps are same - FLAT and playerbase start see there is something wrong. It was mater of time and CCP lost that, now they have more thingies to fix than when i sent my first message about game issues. Just congratz CCP if you dont do something you lost big time. |
Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.10.20 04:12:00 -
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Personally i think the decision not to release even a compatable client on ps4 is dumb. they don't have to improve the graphics at the moment but just make it available to download and run on a ps4 as well as ps3 because as much as they wanna believe there are 80mill ps3s out there. there are probs only 100k of those that still have dust installed and anyone interested in dust will see planetside 2 and destiny and trade in their ps3. very few people will keep their ps3 just for dust especially if the game stores begin offering trade in incentives.
this current gen has outlived itself. as much as devs wont to tell you they are still going to make games for them we all know they're lying their ass off. we'll perhaps see the fifa/madden/nba 2014/15 games on this current gen and not much else. console buying trends have changed, more stores offer trade ins meaning easier access to higher end gadgets. |
pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.10.20 05:22:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Personally i think the decision not to release even a compatable client on ps4 is dumb. they don't have to improve the graphics at the moment but just make it available to download and run on a ps4 as well as ps3 because as much as they wanna believe there are 80mill ps3s out there. there are probs only 100k of those that still have dust installed and anyone interested in dust will see planetside 2 and destiny and trade in their ps3. very few people will keep their ps3 just for dust especially if the game stores begin offering trade in incentives.
this current gen has outlived itself. as much as devs wont to tell you they are still going to make games for them we all know they're lying their ass off. we'll perhaps see the fifa/madden/nba 2014/15 games on this current gen and not much else. console buying trends have changed, more stores offer trade ins meaning easier access to higher end gadgets. madden and fifa and thats it?...smh. i can name a game launching on ps3 after ps4 release that will outsell every ps4 release game combined(outside of cod), it releases december 6th, and it a sony flagship game. tell me why its NOT on ps4. let me guess, soe and polydigital, have no clue like ccp. you must be a game developer for EA or activision or something with all your gaming knowledge.
people aren't going to run out in droves and buy ps4' on day one. the launch lineup is azz. why dont you read up on the ps3 launch and how many early adapters it had.
when did console buying trends change? on that system release between the ps3 and ps4? ps3 1/2? |
Aqua-Regia
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.20 05:57:00 -
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Maybe CCP hope in finding some legendary treasure in this hole. |
Serah Phymne
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.20 05:59:00 -
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The problem with Dust isn't that it's on PS3. The problem is that it is made using the awful Unreal engine and that it hasn't seen any new content for half a year. And potentially we won't see any more content until 2014. |
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.20 06:44:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:I seriously don't see this game lasting much longer anymore. CCP is going to start taking away vehicles and BPO's from a community that is already sick and tired of this "Rollercoaster of Hell" development strategy (screw-ups are so consistant, that it HAS to be intentional).
Good luck CCP, seriously.
If player counts/retention, shockingly, do not begin improving by the end of this year, I would hope that you would take the game offline for at least a couple of years or more in order to privately develop dust for the next generation. That would give plenty of time for the PS4 installed base to grow, and lets face it CCP, you were never going to see even 1% of the 80 million PSN users anyway.
New, stronger hardware would breathe new life in this game with improved graphics and performance. But most importantly, taking dust offline and then moving dust to the ps4 will give you guys room to screw up without ruining the games reputation. You guys are still clueless as to how a fun FPS is made and you guys NEED time to be able to make mistakes and learn from them WITHOUT ruining what's left of Dust's reputation.
Take what you learned here, these past two years, and use this experience to finally give people a game people will be playing for years. And when people visit the DUST 514 booth at E3 2017, you could take your place right beside Final Fantasy XIV: ARR as another great comeback story. Both Dust 514 and Final Fantasy XIV received terrible reviews upon release and complaints of bugs/glitches. The general consensus is that they are both unfinished games....
...So take Dust offline, rebuild it for the PS4, market it as an undeniable improvement from the ps3 version, ???, and profit.
#imsotiredofwonderingwhatif
How would taking it offline benefit CCP at all? Your acting like this game is terrible. I enjoy this game immensely and while it could do with many improvements, that doesn't mean it should be taken offline...... Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean everyone else should have to suffer for it. If you don't like how the game is going then stop playing it for a "few years" and just come back whenever you think its "finished"
But whatever, you can doom and gloom all you want, ill just continue playing the game like always do. |
Protocake JR
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.10.20 10:14:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:
How would taking it offline benefit CCP at all? Your acting like this game is terrible. I enjoy this game immensely and while it could do with many improvements, that doesn't mean it should be taken offline...... Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean everyone else should have to suffer for it. If you don't like how the game is going then stop playing it for a "few years" and just come back whenever you think its "finished"
But whatever, you can doom and gloom all you want, ill just continue playing the game like always do.
"How would taking it offline benefit CCP at all?"
No one can be certain, and I only want them to follow through with this idea if it's possible. What I'm hoping for is for a similar success story to that of FFXIV: ARR. If it's possible, I want it to be done.
"Your acting like this game is terrible."
BIG LOL. You're acting like this game is good. The only redeemable quality this game has is it's community building "corporations" feature. Everything else about this game suffers from missing pieces of the puzzle, poor performance, and just painfully obvious game design flaws (like seriously, 20-30 mil SP vets playing of the same field as 1200wp lolacademy graduates. wtf.)
I'm sorry, but the general consensus is that this game is bad. It's not just me, it's damn near everyone who bothered to download the client. Everyone is gone. The small playerbase that stuck around even has many people on the edge; only logging in to say hello and participate/complain about PC lag.
All i'm trying to say, is if we don't begin to see improvements that result in player retention soon, then this may be an option to consider if possible.
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Orenji Jiji
Seraphim Auxiliaries
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Posted - 2013.10.20 10:27:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:orthogonal A word used by the tech-savvy to sound smarter than they really are.
More specifically:
A math term that means perpendicular, but not just in 2D but in any dimension. Now commonly used to indicate an idea or concept that stands apart so much from everything else that it "sticks out," is "from left field," or is "third-way." "I have this co-worker who keeps using the word 'orthogonal,' usually after he mentions some idea he thinks is God's gift to man. Can't wait to get this word into my vocab. Soon as I figure out what it means." - Urban Dictionary
I would go with Webster or Oxford instead of Urban, but here's a free PSA for the likes of you: people who know the word use it to say there is no correlation between things. And in simpler terms, just for you: changing one will not have impact on the other. It will not give us content, it will not fix the mechanics issue that are put in place by CCP.
Instead of being snarky you could just expand your dictionary a little. Because it's a lot easier to use one word instead of two sentences, every time you need to refer to a concept.
Protocake JR wrote:Anyway, where do I begin? "It's long forgotten" Yeah, no. You do not know that. FFXIV proves otherwise. Also, i'm not suggesting the completely discontinue the game. I'm suggesting a rebirth, unless CCP has a trick up their sleeve to get rid of the negative stigma they've created for themselves. I highly doubt the latter. Negative stigma? Negative stigma coming from FUDers like you? Yeah, that's something CCP really has to consider, LOL
You are suggesting flushing years of work in a toilet & leaving existing player base to die. This is what you're suggesting. Unless you somehow expect them to keep up both versions online or come up with PS4 version when PS4 hits the shelves. First is a pointless money burn, second means killing playerbase that will stay with the PS3.
Also I'm not sure you've noticed that CCP is not SquareEnix. CCP has one successful, long running game, while SquareEnix is a powerhouse with legendary reputation & monnies from Sony to back them up. They could literally release packed up turd and it would go in millions. It's not the case with CCP.
Protocake JR wrote:And the whole thing about 2-3 years without user feedback and bug reports? Easily remedied with PS4/PSN developer friendly patching/QA system. You want to know the hard truth?
A tiny player base's opinions are not suitable substitutes for competent developers.
I'm talking, CCP Shanghai needs a total overhaul. Just like Square Enix did. I love it when somebody says something is "Easily remedied with [SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT YET BEEN PROVED TO BE WORKING]". But sure, there is a problem though: CCP got special deal from Sony to do development and patching their way and it's not good enough? We played the game for 16 months and provided feedback - not good enough? Shanghai studio, which IIRC was created for this game, should be flushed because Mr Protobucket says so?
So basically the summary of what you say is: **** PS3 DUST514 and its userbase, **** Shanghai Studio, **** you all, I want to play this on PS4 and will doom & gloom until CCP breaks. Why don't you just go play Planetside2 when it's out and leave CCP be? One pale tryhard less.
Protobucket JR wrote:I'm sorry, but the general consensus is that this game is bad. It's not just me, it's damn near everyone who bothered to download the client. Everyone is gone. Yet you are still here? Lucky us, the Prophet JR remained on his post. |
CrotchGrab 360
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.20 10:35:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:
I would hope that you would take the game offline for at least a couple of years or more in order to privately develop dust for the next generation.
I stopped reading at that point. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
401
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Posted - 2013.10.20 10:42:00 -
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Oh look nothing has changed, well thats a surprise........................................................
When CCP said they were going into open Beta they were told don't do it yet we threw lists of issues at them day in day out that were ignored......
SO it's the same old going on, Dust clinging onto eves rep to get people interested, they are killing there own game so let them carry on .
Can see the headlines now , Dust the game with so much potential, just dont bother to expect to much now you'll have to wait 5 years |
DeeJay One
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.10.20 10:45:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote: Completely agree. They should take it off, go shoot some rilfes, carbines, Mgs. And start from scratch and stop with empty promises.
They should start with taking the forum down!
P.S. Sorry, I had to after reading the 10000000000000th whine thread |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
401
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Posted - 2013.10.20 10:49:00 -
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DeeJay One wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote: Completely agree. They should take it off, go shoot some rilfes, carbines, Mgs. And start from scratch and stop with empty promises.
They should start with taking the forum down! P.S. Sorry, I had to after reading the 10000000000000th whine thread
May as well for all the the good it's done up to yet, never seen a forum with so little input form a dev through out beta no wonder people moan...........
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DeeJay One
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.10.20 10:49:00 -
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Serah Phymne wrote:The problem with Dust isn't that it's on PS3. The problem is that it is made using the awful Unreal engine and that it hasn't seen any new content for half a year. And potentially we won't see any more content until 2014. Awful Unreal engine? Like the engine in Gears of War 3, Batman: Arkham *, Bioshock, Borderlands *, DCOU, Mass Effect, etc? So, tell me again what and awful engine it is... |
Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.10.20 11:42:00 -
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DeeJay One wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote: Completely agree. They should take it off, go shoot some rilfes, carbines, Mgs. And start from scratch and stop with empty promises.
They should start with taking the forum down! P.S. Sorry, I had to after reading the 10000000000000th whine thread
Boyo be objective, do you really see this game like issue free?! This is not whining. CCP should start working on what they promise to player base. What we have now is just mediocre game with tons of bugs, glitches, unbalance and other issues. |
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