DUST Search - CCP, clearly you've dug yourself a hole you can't climb out of.

Orenji Jiji wrote:

Protocake JR wrote:

...So take Dust offline, rebuild it for the PS4, market it as an undeniable improvement from the ps3 version, ???, and profit.

#imsotiredofwonderingwhatif

The platform is orthogonal to all the issues we're facing with DUST. Google the hard words in my previous sentence before replying.

Also a glimpse from software development world: "rewrite" has bigger chance to kill a project, than leaving in on PS3 and letting people like you go play PS4 titles. It can also impact the company and not in a good way. Pulling a game with player base from a platform, to develop it for new platform for **** knows how long is not a viable solution economically, first and foremost. And BS about "saving what's left of DUST reputation" is brain dead. If this game is pulled out then it is no more. There is no game. Reputation is all that is left. And reputation for discontinued products means two things: jack & ****. And in two years, when it's re-released, it's long forgotten, because people have moved on. Also two years without user feedback and bug reports. Great idea.

#dieinafire


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Protocake JR Ancient Exiles 782	Posted - 2013.10.19 23:15:00 - [1] - Quote I seriously don't see this game lasting much longer anymore. CCP is going to start taking away vehicles and BPO's from a community that is already sick and tired of this "Rollercoaster of Hell" development strategy (screw-ups are so consistant, that it's like it intentional). Good luck CCP, seriously. If player counts/retention, shockingly, do not begin improving by the end of this year, I would hope that you would take the game offline for at least a couple of years or more in order to privately develop dust for the next generation. That would give plenty of time for the PS4 installed base to grow, and lets face it CCP, you were never going to see even 1% of the 80 million PSN users anyway. New, stronger hardware would breathe new life in this game with improved graphics and performance. But most importantly, taking dust offline and then moving dust to the ps4 will give you guys room to screw up without ruining the games reputation. You guys are still clueless as to how a fun FPS is made and you guys NEED time to be able to make mistakes and learn from them WITHOUT ruining what's left of Dust's reputation. Take what you learned here, these past two years, and use this experience to finally give people a game people will be playing for years. And when people visit the DUST 514 booth at E3 2017, you could take your place right beside Final Fantasy XIV: ARR as another great comeback story. Both Dust 514 and Final Fantasy XIV received terrible reviews upon release and complaints of bugs/glitches. The general consensus is that they are both unfinished games.... ...So take Dust offline, rebuild it for the PS4, market it as an undeniable improvement from the ps3 version, ???, and profit. #imsotiredofwonderingwhatif
Protocake JR Ancient Exiles 784	Posted - 2013.10.19 23:30:00 - [2] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust Dust did have one of it's highest player counts today. one of the highest ever in the past few months. Just because a panda grew an inch this month, does not mean it won't become extinct in the near future. Besides, it's the weekend and it's not that much high than normal. I'd be impressed if they could maintain 4000, with a peak of 5000. Bonus points for an actual steady growth trend (not a stagnant playerbase).
Protocake JR Ancient Exiles 786	Posted - 2013.10.19 23:55:00 - [3] - Quote Orenji Jiji wrote: Protocake JR wrote: ...So take Dust offline, rebuild it for the PS4, market it as an undeniable improvement from the ps3 version, ???, and profit. #imsotiredofwonderingwhatif The platform is orthogonal to all the issues we're facing with DUST. Google the hard words in my previous sentence before replying. Also a glimpse from software development world: "rewrite" has bigger chance to kill a project, than leaving in on PS3 and letting people like you go play PS4 titles. It can also impact the company and not in a good way. Pulling a game with player base from a platform, to develop it for new platform for ** knows how long is not a viable solution economically, first and foremost. And BS about "saving what's left of DUST reputation" is brain dead. If this game is pulled out then it is no more. There is no game. Reputation is all that is left. And reputation for discontinued products means two things: jack & *. And in two years, when it's re-released, it's long forgotten, because people have moved on. Also two years without user feedback and bug reports. Great idea. #dieinafire orthogonal A word used by the tech-savvy to sound smarter than they really are. More specifically: A math term that means perpendicular, but not just in 2D but in any dimension. Now commonly used to indicate an idea or concept that stands apart so much from everything else that it "sticks out," is "from left field," or is "third-way." "I have this co-worker who keeps using the word 'orthogonal,' usually after he mentions some idea he thinks is God's gift to man. Can't wait to get this word into my vocab. Soon as I figure out what it means." - Urban Dictionary Anyway, where do I begin? "It's long forgotten" Yeah, no. You do not know that. FFXIV proves otherwise. Also, i'm not suggesting the completely discontinue the game. I'm suggesting a rebirth, unless CCP has a trick up their sleeve to get rid of the negative stigma they've created for themselves. I highly doubt the latter. And the whole thing about 2-3 years without user feedback and bug reports? Easily remedied with PS4/PSN developer friendly patching/QA system. You want to know the hard truth? A tiny player base's opinions are not a suitable substitute for competent developers*. I'm talking, CCP Shanghai needs a total overhaul. Just like Square Enix did.
Protocake JR Ancient Exiles 790	Posted - 2013.10.20 01:01:00 - [4] - Quote M McManus wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: FFXIV is the sequel to FFXIV ARR and lets be honest, its the first successful sequel to an FF game in a long time. Please explain to me how FFXIV is a "sequel" to ARR don't you mean prequel.... unless you have your titles backwards... Yeah, I was about to say. ARR is the sequel that has remarkably improved reviews. I know more people playing ARR than Dust, in real life (actually none of my friends play dust). The reason why I keep bringing up ARR is because I want to showcase that a rebirth is theoretically possible. Now, I know it's up to CCP's financial situation, but i'm just giving my input. If rebuilding this game on the ps4 is financially possible, then they should move forward with that. If it is not possible at all, in any way shape or form... then I hope everyone enjoys being milked on a sinking ship.
Protocake JR Ancient Exiles 794	Posted - 2013.10.20 01:21:00 - [5] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=116306 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1407285#post1407285 Literally in the same thread.....
Protocake JR Ancient Exiles 796	Posted - 2013.10.20 01:45:00 - [6] - Quote God Hates Lags wrote: But if they took Dust offline how would they test it for bugs? Overhaul CCP's QA department. Open a beta for players to play-test. After the official re-release, CCP could still take advantage of the PS4's new developer friendly patching/QA system to squash bugs after release.
Protocake JR Ancient Exiles 803	Posted - 2013.10.20 10:14:00 - [7] - Quote Marston VC wrote: How would taking it offline benefit CCP at all? Your acting like this game is terrible. I enjoy this game immensely and while it could do with many improvements, that doesn't mean it should be taken offline...... Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean everyone else should have to suffer for it. If you don't like how the game is going then stop playing it for a "few years" and just come back whenever you think its "finished" But whatever, you can doom and gloom all you want, ill just continue playing the game like always do. "How would taking it offline benefit CCP at all?" No one can be certain, and I only want them to follow through with this idea if it's possible. What I'm hoping for is for a similar success story to that of FFXIV: ARR. If it's possible, I want it to be done. "Your acting like this game is terrible." BIG LOL. You're acting like this game is good. The only redeemable quality this game has is it's community building "corporations" feature. Everything else about this game suffers from missing pieces of the puzzle, poor performance, and just painfully obvious game design flaws (like seriously, 20-30 mil SP vets playing of the same field as 1200wp lolacademy graduates. wtf.) I'm sorry, but the general consensus is that this game is bad. It's not just me, it's damn near everyone who bothered to download the client. Everyone is gone. The small playerbase that stuck around even has many people on the edge; only logging in to say hello and participate/complain about PC lag. All i'm trying to say, is if we don't begin to see improvements that result in player retention soon, then this may be an option to consider if possible.