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Dandeth Adloth
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Posted - 2013.10.19 17:41:00 -
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The game CCP envisioned, will be made by others... there are two competitors who will make very cool games that have shittons more immersion than eve ever will have.
One of those is crowdfunded, and has collected 23 million dollars already. This project has more immersion running around a virtual hangar than Dust514 has in their "finished" game.
Progress is something that needs to be made and not only talked about.
This game might not be dead, but it's not delivering any of the promised content to keep players interested... |
Dandeth Adloth
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Posted - 2013.10.20 07:33:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:
Been referencing this from the start. People need to keep in mind that EVE didn't start out even remotely comparable to what it is today.
Different division of the studio or not, this is still the company that took an obscure, hard to play MMO and made it into the "World's largest game universe".
They took a game no one ever heard of up to the point where everyone speculates about new MMOs being "EVE killers" the same way they used to about "WoW killers".
Now ask me again why I'm not saying this game is doomed.
I wouldn't say this game or eve is doomed, but I think that there are competitors that seem on a good way to deliver a lot of the stuff that was promised by CCP to bait people into the game!
Many of these have moved on and left EVE and Dust, so if we have an alternative, that combines elements of Dust and EVE in a seamless experience, I predict that more players will leave EVE and Dust.
It will not spell doom to EVE, but with alternatives on the Market, EVE will have to improve to keep their subscribers.
After all, this competition is good for everybody.
Cheers
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Dandeth Adloth
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Posted - 2013.10.20 11:47:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Well its up to CCP to keep working towards it then, they owe us that much.
The problem is, that the upcoming titles will give a lot of frustrated EVE universe players a new home, that might be more comfy and entertaining than eve ever was...
I think the anouncement of Valkyrie is a clear reaction to the success of Chris Roberts "Star Citizen". Just because all the die hard EVE nerds try to avoid anything that diverts from the beaten track, doesn't mean that there are very many people out there that are looking exactly for that (new and immersive fps space shooters with pvp and economy)!
Competition is on, lets see how CCP is reacting to that.
Cheers
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Dandeth Adloth
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Posted - 2013.10.21 08:07:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Planetside 2 is just fighting. Nothing else. Pretty lighting systems and a lot of players don't make it any more engaging six months down the line. Fighting for the sake of getting better gear to fight with for the sake of getting better gear to fight with...
Well, that's exactly what Dust514 is all about...
In the end it's all about improving your loadout and stomping weaker players... boring...
If CCP isn't improving the BATTLE experience, this game will stay the meaningless grind ist is right now.
The FW changes are nothing than a diversification of the grind, they give us nothing new BATTLE wise.
CCP obviously hasn't even the resources to give us all the suits and weapons they promised... laughable...
Interest in grinding seems to be something that interests EVE players, I doubt that console players like that.
Console customers seem to be interested in shiny stuff, like good looks and new stuff to explore... not in this game me thinks...
I'd say that a lot of players would prefer isk payout and shiny suits (faction colored) to faction stuff they can't use bacause of skills...
Whatever... |
Dandeth Adloth
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Posted - 2013.10.21 12:48:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:It's a shame you're not in a Planetary Conquest capable corporation, you'd get to see a glimpse at what this game has to offer.
I've been in PC battles (with an alt char) so I do know that PC isn't any better, except maybe for the social aspect (running with a full team).
Apart from that it's exactly the same game (skirmish) so nothing to write home about.
I probybly just expected to get more immersion and EVE Dust connection, after I read all the promises CCP made...
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Dandeth Adloth
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Posted - 2013.10.21 16:37:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:If you're looking at it on the battlefield you're not looking at it as a whole. Any game that involves PVP is fighting, but you're deflecting the fact that I mention social networking - forming alliances, waging wars; all of which is done by the player's hands without a stage set by a developer.
Yeah, but that is only on the top level of the corps, (directors, CEOs) for the grunt on the ground it's very repetetive. Apart from friendly fire, bigger rewards + the higher intensity, PC is just a glorified skirmish.
The problem is that the battles themselves are allways the same, there is no variety in them. If you play the game for a long time, you barely need voice chat, because everybody knows what to do anyway. We know which objectives to take, where our respective weapons work best, and so on...
I would like to have more unpredictability during the match and more room for strategy. Mabe that will come with the new maps and other vehicle classes, but for now especcially on the older maps (cargo hub/production facility) it's just very repetetive...
I had hoped for waaaaaayyyyy more interaction with EVE. That would make things interesting. The problem here is the pathetic resources CCP has to fill the game with content. This new FW seems to become just another wrapper for the same old grind for goodies...
You know what big fun is? Trying something new. I just started to skill into Plasma Cannon on my gallente character. That is fun! But it will only go so far untill I've maxed it and than I'm forced to play the same old maps we play since forever (at least it feels like it). So what we need is new stuffff not just shiny new wrappers for the old crap! |
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