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8213
Grade No.2
439
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:14:00 -
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Does anybody have any respect for these guys?
When it comes to Protostomping, they are by far the most guilty Corporation there is. Using full Protosquads, scanners, and HAVs in Pub Ambush... Before the MD was nerfed, all they would do then is just sit on a roof and spam the entire match.
I can out play these clowns all day, but eventually the fact they run medium frames with 700 armor, or use HAVs gets annoying.
Are they really that bad in P/C that they can only crush Militia fit Noobs in Public Matches? They play ultra-tryhard and still barely win, if they win at all...
I don't respect them, and they are simply lackluster players who depend on every exploit this game has.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1835
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:15:00 -
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U mad bro? |
SoTa PoP
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
3905
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:18:00 -
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8213 wrote:Does anybody have any respect for these guys?
When it comes to Protostomping, they are by far the most guilty Corporation there is. Using full Protosquads, scanners, and HAVs in Pub Ambush... Before the MD was nerfed, all they would do then is just sit on a roof and spam the entire match.
I can out play these clowns all day, but eventually the fact they run medium frames with 700 armor, or use HAVs gets annoying.
Are they really that bad in P/C that they can only crush Militia fit Noobs in Public Matches? They play ultra-tryhard and still barely win, if they win at all...
I don't respect them, and they are simply lackluster players who depend on every exploit this game has.
Looks like Nyain San is still harvesting tears. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1208
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:20:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:8213 wrote:Does anybody have any respect for these guys?
When it comes to Protostomping, they are by far the most guilty Corporation there is. Using full Protosquads, scanners, and HAVs in Pub Ambush... Before the MD was nerfed, all they would do then is just sit on a roof and spam the entire match.
I can out play these clowns all day, but eventually the fact they run medium frames with 700 armor, or use HAVs gets annoying.
Are they really that bad in P/C that they can only crush Militia fit Noobs in Public Matches? They play ultra-tryhard and still barely win, if they win at all...
I don't respect them, and they are simply lackluster players who depend on every exploit this game has.
Looks like Nyain San is still harvesting tears.
Being scrubs is a better word for it, but whatever..... |
Nightbird Aeon
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
338
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:21:00 -
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8213 wrote:
Are they really that bad in P/C that they can only crush Militia fit Noobs in Public Matches? They play ultra-tryhard and still barely win, if they win at all...
They are used to playing in groups, and group play cleans up in pub matches.
They tend to swarm though... so they aren't that great in PC because they over-commit to taking objectives and don't play defense all that well.
...at least they used to... haven't played a PC match against them in a while. |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
30
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:22:00 -
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8213 wrote:Does anybody have any respect for these guys?
When it comes to Protostomping, they are by far the most guilty Corporation there is. Using full Protosquads, scanners, and HAVs in Pub Ambush... Before the MD was nerfed, all they would do then is just sit on a roof and spam the entire match.
I can out play these clowns all day, but eventually the fact they run medium frames with 700 armor, or use HAVs gets annoying.
Are they really that bad in P/C that they can only crush Militia fit Noobs in Public Matches? They play ultra-tryhard and still barely win, if they win at all...
I don't respect them, and they are simply lackluster players who depend on every exploit this game has.
first if we are that bad attack our district and somebody should call the wambulance for 8213 |
Aisha Ctarl
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1534
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:23:00 -
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Nightbird Aeon wrote:8213 wrote:
Are they really that bad in P/C that they can only crush Militia fit Noobs in Public Matches? They play ultra-tryhard and still barely win, if they win at all...
They are used to playing in groups, and group play cleans up in pub matches. They tend to swarm though... so they aren't that great in PC because they over-commit to taking objectives and don't play defense all that well. ...at least they used to... haven't played a PC match against them in a while.
Pretty much this.
What makes Nyain San so annoying is that they play exceptionally well as squads and employ the "Zerg Rush" tactic very often. There is nothing worse than seeing eight Nyain San Proto Cal Logis running full tilt towards you spraying you down with Duvolles and Freedom MD's. |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
30
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:24:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Nightbird Aeon wrote:8213 wrote:
Are they really that bad in P/C that they can only crush Militia fit Noobs in Public Matches? They play ultra-tryhard and still barely win, if they win at all...
They are used to playing in groups, and group play cleans up in pub matches. They tend to swarm though... so they aren't that great in PC because they over-commit to taking objectives and don't play defense all that well. ...at least they used to... haven't played a PC match against them in a while. Pretty much this. What makes Nyain San so annoying is that they play exceptionally well as squads and employ the "Zerg Rush" tactic very often. There is nothing worse than seeing eight Nyain San Proto Cal Logis running full tilt towards you spraying you down with Duvolles and Freedom MD's.
not many of us the freedom most use the Duvolle |
Knight Soiaire
P.O.I.N.T.L.E.S.S A.C.R.O.N.Y.M
2616
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:26:00 -
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I've had bad experiences Vs Asian players in Dark Souls PvP......
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Xaviah Reaper
Nyain San
153
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:31:00 -
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We rarely use mass drivers :P mostly ar. And its gal logi .. Not cal.
If you think we're so super terribad, why cant you beat us? :) |
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1018
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:31:00 -
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I like to see the best competition possible in every match. I'll go ADV to their Protos all day long. I will take losing all day long. I will learn. I will eventually (SoonGäó) tire of losing, suit up properly, and show them how to properly stomp a bunch of unorganized weaklings and turn their tears into sweet, salty wine.
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
30
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:34:00 -
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we suck at PC we only have 23 districts i guess thats bad |
8213
Grade No.2
439
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:35:00 -
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Xaviah Reaper wrote:We rarely use mass drivers :P mostly ar. And its gal logi .. Not cal.
If you[/b ]think we're so super terribad, why cant you beat [b]us? :)
Why can't one of me beat 6 of you? Gee, I don't know.... Wait, I do beat you, and you guys still lose all the time, because you're scrubs, period.
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
31
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:38:00 -
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8213 wrote:Xaviah Reaper wrote:We rarely use mass drivers :P mostly ar. And its gal logi .. Not cal.
If you[/b ]think we're so super terribad, why cant you beat [b]us? :) Why can't one of me beat 6 of you? Gee, I don't know.... Wait, I do beat you, and you guys still lose all the time, because you're scrubs, period.
if you think we are scrubs attack one of our district because according to you we suck and so you guys so beat us pretty badly and i only see 8213 leave games we are in so he doesnt known what he is talking about |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6151
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:41:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Nightbird Aeon wrote:8213 wrote:
Are they really that bad in P/C that they can only crush Militia fit Noobs in Public Matches? They play ultra-tryhard and still barely win, if they win at all...
They are used to playing in groups, and group play cleans up in pub matches. They tend to swarm though... so they aren't that great in PC because they over-commit to taking objectives and don't play defense all that well. ...at least they used to... haven't played a PC match against them in a while. Pretty much this. What makes Nyain San so annoying is that they play exceptionally well as squads and employ the "Zerg Rush" tactic very often. There is nothing worse than seeing eight Nyain San Aurum Proto Cal Logis running full tilt towards you spraying you down with Aurum Duvolles and Aurum Freedom MD's. Fix'd |
itsmellslikefish
DIOS EX. Top Men.
372
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:45:00 -
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Before I used plc I too raged at pub stompers, now I Ohk everyone, protosuit mean little to nothing to me. I am enlightened, come join me, drink the kool aid. |
ReGnYuM
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1135
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:47:00 -
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8213 wrote:Does anybody have any respect for these guys?
When it comes to Protostomping, they are by far the most guilty Corporation there is. Using full Protosquads, scanners, and HAVs in Pub Ambush... Before the MD was nerfed, all they would do then is just sit on a roof and spam the entire match.
I can out play these clowns all day, but eventually the fact they run medium frames with 700 armor, or use HAVs gets annoying.
Are they really that bad in P/C that they can only crush Militia fit Noobs in Public Matches? They play ultra-tryhard and still barely win, if they win at all...
I don't respect them, and they are simply lackluster players who depend on every exploit this game has.
They have perfected the Art Of PuBstomp-San |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
1921
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:49:00 -
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TL;DR = "**** you Nyan San for being good!" |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
1381
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:49:00 -
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I thought their main weapons were core locus grenades? |
ReGnUM Public Relations
EoN Public Relations
573
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:54:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:8213 wrote:Does anybody have any respect for these guys?
When it comes to Protostomping, they are by far the most guilty Corporation there is. Using full Protosquads, scanners, and HAVs in Pub Ambush... Before the MD was nerfed, all they would do then is just sit on a roof and spam the entire match.
I can out play these clowns all day, but eventually the fact they run medium frames with 700 armor, or use HAVs gets annoying.
Are they really that bad in P/C that they can only crush Militia fit Noobs in Public Matches? They play ultra-tryhard and still barely win, if they win at all...
I don't respect them, and they are simply lackluster players who depend on every exploit this game has.
first if we are that bad attack our district and somebody should call the wambulance for 8213
Is that a threat? |
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4502
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:57:00 -
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Being neutral on the matter, I can say this...
If anyone in any corp can go proto stomping in a pub match without any restrictions outside of cost of suits, what is to stop them from doing so? Nothing much really.
There was one thread that was posted a long while ago with a good idea on how to address this in a fair way.
Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=113843&find=unread
Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Warpoints based on suit disparity means that you get the current +50 when you are fighting a suit of the same tier as yours. If you kill a suit one tier higher, you get +15 warpoints per tier in addition to the +50, so a militia suit killing a proto would get + 95 warpoints*. If you kill a suit a tier lower, you get -15 warpoints per tier, so a proto suit killing a militia suit would get 5 warpoints**.
I feel that this would contribute greatly to balancing public matches while still rewarding both old and new players. I do not recommend this for faction warfare or planetary conquest.
My response to this:
Maken Tosch wrote: But I have to agree that the points added/subtracted according to the OP is too extreme. I would say about +/- 7 WP change according to the disparity. This way there will only be a maximum gain/loss of 21 WP as supposed to a gain/loss of 45 WP.
I brought this up earlier with CPM Hans in a Skype chat to see what he thinks and so far he seems to like the concept. |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
33
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:59:00 -
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ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:8213 wrote:Does anybody have any respect for these guys?
When it comes to Protostomping, they are by far the most guilty Corporation there is. Using full Protosquads, scanners, and HAVs in Pub Ambush... Before the MD was nerfed, all they would do then is just sit on a roof and spam the entire match.
I can out play these clowns all day, but eventually the fact they run medium frames with 700 armor, or use HAVs gets annoying.
Are they really that bad in P/C that they can only crush Militia fit Noobs in Public Matches? They play ultra-tryhard and still barely win, if they win at all...
I don't respect them, and they are simply lackluster players who depend on every exploit this game has.
first if we are that bad attack our district and somebody should call the wambulance for 8213 Is that a threat?
no its not this guy always complains about us on here saying we suck and stuff like that im asking him to put his mouth were his money is and attack our district any one of them |
8213
Grade No.2
443
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Posted - 2013.10.18 21:03:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:8213 wrote:Xaviah Reaper wrote:We rarely use mass drivers :P mostly ar. And its gal logi .. Not cal.
If you[/b ]think we're so super terribad, why cant you beat [b]us? :) Why can't one of me beat 6 of you? Gee, I don't know.... Wait, I do beat you, and you guys still lose all the time, because you're scrubs, period. if you think we are scrubs attack one of our district because according to you we suck and so you guys so beat us pretty badly and i only see 8213 leave games we are in so he doesnt known what he is talking about
I leave maybe one game per week... shows how much you don't know...
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SoTa PoP
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
3909
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Posted - 2013.10.18 21:09:00 -
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lol since when did Nyain San do anything different then any other corp? Stop being butt hurt and run your own squad if they pwn you that much :D |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
1499
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Posted - 2013.10.18 21:11:00 -
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I just want to know from a Nyain San representative, are you guys allied to SALUKI? I swear I saw someone using a Balac's AR in a pub match, and I was thinking: "is this some elite Nyain San sect?"
Because if they aren't your allies, they employ the same tactics in public games as you guys do, and I was going to suggest you guys should fight each other more.
Besides that, I'll admit your pub stomping is very annoying, and when you apply your ganking technique to my dropship with 3 forge gunners... Yeah, it's downright frustrating. Besides that, I'm sure you're good people with morals in real life just looking to vent your world-weary frustration on DUST, and I respect that you haven't exactly denied that you pubstomp too.
And I am a great supporter of any support shown to CCP, and by the looks of it you guys are injecting them with much needed cash, so I will in no way tell you directly to stop pub stomping. |
SERPENT-Adamapple
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
204
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Posted - 2013.10.18 21:13:00 -
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Asians suck at FPS's, so on order to be good they need crutches and exploits to compete. Not trying to be racist, just facts. Makes them dizzy. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1837
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Posted - 2013.10.18 21:15:00 -
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SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:Asians suck at FPS's, so on order to be good they need crutches and exploits to compete. Not trying to be racist, just facts. Makes them dizzy.
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SoTa PoP
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
3909
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Posted - 2013.10.18 21:15:00 -
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SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:Asians suck at FPS's, so on order to be good they need crutches and exploits to compete. Not trying to be racist, just facts. Makes them dizzy. lol wtf? Just because you say your remark isn't trying to be racist doesn't make it not so. Keep those shyt opinions to yourself kiddo. |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
257
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Posted - 2013.10.18 21:21:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Being neutral on the matter, I can say this... If anyone in any corp can go proto stomping in a pub match without any restrictions outside of cost of suits, what is to stop them from doing so? Nothing much really. There was one thread that was posted a long while ago with a good idea on how to address this in a fair way. Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=113843&find=unreadLeovarian L Lavitz wrote: Warpoints based on suit disparity means that you get the current +50 when you are fighting a suit of the same tier as yours. If you kill a suit one tier higher, you get +15 warpoints per tier in addition to the +50, so a militia suit killing a proto would get + 95 warpoints*. If you kill a suit a tier lower, you get -15 warpoints per tier, so a proto suit killing a militia suit would get 5 warpoints**.
I feel that this would contribute greatly to balancing public matches while still rewarding both old and new players. I do not recommend this for faction warfare or planetary conquest.
My response to this: Maken Tosch wrote: But I have to agree that the points added/subtracted according to the OP is too extreme. I would say about +/- 7 WP change according to the disparity. This way there will only be a maximum gain/loss of 21 WP as supposed to a gain/loss of 45 WP.
I brought this up earlier with CPM Hans in a Skype chat to see what he thinks and so far he seems to like the concept. Ooh I suggested the idea the day before, but I was tired and a bit too "direct" with my analysis that day. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=113578 |
Chad Michael Murray
The Phoenix Federation Ascension Alliance
99
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Posted - 2013.10.18 21:27:00 -
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Is it annoying? Sure. I still think it's smart though, they do teamwork quite well protostomping or not; 50 bucks says even if they ran STD/ADV gear they'd still drop you because of aforementioned teamwork. |
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