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ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn
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Posted - 2013.10.18 19:21:00 -
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i just find it ridiculous that you can scan a 200m diameter bubble around you. its way too much.
i look at it like this:
a swarm shoots 400m and in visual terms thats a hell of a distance. on some maps that almost the whole area and now we have a scanner that on those same maps can essentially scan half of it. i did a match yesterday and i had almost permanently in the center of my screen "you have been scanned" and i was nowhere near any combat.
i understand the purpose and i like their use but i just think its too much especially all this twirly scanning people are doing. either reduce the range or prevent people from doing this spinning to scan half the map. that or/or give us 2 version, short range 360deg scan or long range pinpoint scan |
ILLUSIONxox
RAINING HEAVY'S
10
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Posted - 2013.10.18 19:42:00 -
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No its good the way it is , it could be longer if you ask me . |
Doshneil Antaro
Dem Durrty Boyz
Public Disorder.
131
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Posted - 2013.10.18 19:48:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:i just find it ridiculous that you can scan a 200m diameter bubble around you. its way too much.
i look at it like this:
a swarm shoots 400m and in visual terms thats a hell of a distance. on some maps that almost the whole area and now we have a scanner that on those same maps can essentially scan half of it. i did a match yesterday and i had almost permanently in the center of my screen "you have been scanned" and i was nowhere near any combat.
i understand the purpose and i like their use but i just think its too much especially all this twirly scanning people are doing. either reduce the range or prevent people from doing this spinning to scan half the map. that or/or give us 2 version, short range 360deg scan or long range pinpoint scan
Also make walls reduce efficiency, so that scanning through 2 or more walls makes the scan fail. Not talking about half walls or rails that are chest high. Scanning through 4-5 concrete and metal walls in a complex is ridiculous.
Lastly, they should have a hight limit if not directly pointed up. As is, I can stand on the ground 360, and scan targets not only scan level but also pick up those roof dwellers 80 m above me. If I pointed it at them than yeah scan, if not, they should be fine. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
469
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:12:00 -
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ILLUSIONxox wrote:No its good the way it is , it could be longer if you ask me .
It should be longer. Now people who are built for stealth have a job. kill the tech specialist. |
Quil Evrything
DUST University
Ivy League
244
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:47:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:ILLUSIONxox wrote:No its good the way it is , it could be longer if you ask me . It should be longer. Now people who are built for stealth have a job. kill the tech specialist.
If only the scouts who resist the scans, got a 2-second lightup on the scanner user...
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Lanius Pulvis
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2013.10.19 00:17:00 -
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Also make walls reduce efficiency, so that scanning through 2 or more walls makes the scan fail. Not talking about half walls or rails that are chest high. Scanning through 4-5 concrete and metal walls in a complex is ridiculous.
Lastly, they should have a hight limit if not directly pointed up. As is, I can stand on the ground 360, and scan targets not only scan level but also pick up those roof dwellers 80 m above me. If I pointed it at them than yeah scan, if not, they should be fine. [/quote]
+1 I like using the scanner (even before you got points for it) but it does need some checks and balances besides just your profile. |
Den-tredje Baron
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
227
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Posted - 2013.10.19 00:35:00 -
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I think it's fine. Leave it as it is and begin to train up profile dampening. I'm running a met a1 level scanner and i'm almost always getting 100% scan |
Madd Plight
Mango and Friends
0
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Posted - 2013.10.19 04:54:00 -
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The idea of a long-range precision scanner and a 360 burst scanner is a great idea. Walls being a factor seem too overkill, especially with some maps being full of obstacles.
I think that vehicles should play a stronger role in scanning than infantry however. If it were more vehicle focused, i think it would be a pretty good deal. i also think that part of the problem is that there are too many scanners out there, and since scanning can be so powerful it shouldn't be a dime a dozen, and it should yield maybe 5 more points overall. |
Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
128
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Posted - 2013.10.19 10:29:00 -
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What was the problem? You are nowhere near combat and...it kinda bothers you you are being scanned? That's the extent of the problem? |
Mirataf
WARRIORS 1NC
84
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Posted - 2013.10.19 11:24:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:i just find it ridiculous that you can scan a 200m diameter bubble around you. its way too much.
i look at it like this:
a swarm shoots 400m and in visual terms thats a hell of a distance. on some maps that almost the whole area and now we have a scanner that on those same maps can essentially scan half of it. i did a match yesterday and i had almost permanently in the center of my screen "you have been scanned" and i was nowhere near any combat.
i understand the purpose and i like their use but i just think its too much especially all this twirly scanning people are doing. either reduce the range or prevent people from doing this spinning to scan half the map. that or/or give us 2 version, short range 360deg scan or long range pinpoint scan
Hate to say it bud, but there's more than just me that will run the outskirts to pick snipers / stragglers and Yeh If find you I'm Gunning for you, which mean you may feel you are being deep scanned when you are not besides with 200m is not that far at all |
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
833
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Posted - 2013.10.19 11:57:00 -
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No!
The 300m version is not large enough either.
I find it ridiculous that we have to physically take out a weapon and aim at a Squad Mate to see who they are and determine their shield/armor status. But we have do to now since CCP/Shanghai removed the ability to sell Scanners.
Add the squad mate information with the scanner. That would be useful. |
Oswald Rehnquist
Abandoned Privilege
General Tso's Alliance
313
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Posted - 2013.10.19 12:06:00 -
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range is not an issue,
the spinning mechanic is, and yes I am a spinner
there are a few ways to stop this, you can make it that the fidelity of the scan decrease if the user is moving so it won't catch as many people, or you can simple slow down turning as if you are ADSing
problem solved |
Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
1121
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Posted - 2013.10.19 12:58:00 -
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I could've sworn the Active Scanner had a distance of 100m. Are we talking Proto-Flux? |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
248
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Posted - 2013.10.19 15:43:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:i just find it ridiculous that you can scan a 200m diameter bubble around you. its way too much.
i look at it like this:
a swarm shoots 400m and in visual terms thats a hell of a distance. on some maps that almost the whole area and now we have a scanner that on those same maps can essentially scan half of it. i did a match yesterday and i had almost permanently in the center of my screen "you have been scanned" and i was nowhere near any combat.
i understand the purpose and i like their use but i just think its too much especially all this twirly scanning people are doing. either reduce the range or prevent people from doing this spinning to scan half the map. that or/or give us 2 version, short range 360deg scan or long range pinpoint scan
Feels like being hunted... |
KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
777
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Posted - 2013.10.20 02:18:00 -
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OP, is there something wrong that you were scanned by flanking red, also outside main battle? Because 100m isn't that long a distance. And yes there exists a special proto 200m scanner but it is not as good in other regards.
Agreeing with Mr Oswald Rehnquist above that spinning is broken, you always get a 360' scan. Which makes one scanner attribute obsolete. Which is turn is stupid at least, more likely broken. |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn
436
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Posted - 2013.10.20 11:14:00 -
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Artificer Ghost wrote:I could've sworn the Active Scanner had a distance of 100m. Are we talking Proto-Flux?
100m in front of you but when you spin on the spot thats a circle with a 100m radius = 200m diameter bubble. and if you have the flux with 200m scan thats a 400m diameter. |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn
436
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Posted - 2013.10.20 11:17:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:range is not an issue,
the spinning mechanic is, and yes I am a spinner
there are a few ways to stop this, you can make it that the fidelity of the scan decrease if the user is moving so it won't catch as many people, or you can simple slow down turning as if you are ADSing
problem solved
or remove the scan timer and make it a simple pulse, reduce the cooldown slightly to make up for the change. this way you can watch a certain angle quite easily or pulse different angles for a wider view of the field within a reasonable amount of time |
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