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ER-Bullitt wrote:

SoTa PoP wrote:

ER-Bullitt wrote:

AH HA!!! That is true, but the adv/proto Flux's have a larger blast radius. minor benefit but still an improvment, tho I hear what you are saying.

what sidearm do you use? SMG?

And I take it you have every skill maxed regarding fitting optimization, CPU/PG, etc?

With my measily 17m SP I cant do that yet /sadface

I've had every passive skilled maxed out before I had 10mil SP....

Anywho - my sidearm is flaylock so that I can be more versatile in my options when fighting. SMG is just another HMG, only good for when you need to reload but someones coming. Flaylock on the other hand opens up more possibilities when you encounter someone.

But for people who aren't confident in there aiming SMG is the way to go.

Your claims to fitting makes sense if you run a flaylock instead of an SMG. Havent used one in ages but it is a skill shot weapon. May start running one again now that they have fixed some of the lag/hit detection problems.

Its funny you say people who arent confident in their aiming should run SMG, I always thought that about people who run damage mods Roll

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lDocHollidayl Ancient Exiles 290	Posted - 2013.10.18 18:12:00 - [1] - Quote Having ChicagoCubs running a fake policing force is like asking Bernie Madoff to handle funds for your corp.
MocHolliday Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 11	Posted - 2013.10.18 18:29:00 - [2] - Quote Sota Pop's presence in a peace keeping corp is like asking leftover **** SS to rebuild public relations with France after WW2.
SoTa PoP MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 3904	Posted - 2013.10.18 19:00:00 - [3] - Quote MocHolliday wrote: Sota Pop's presence in a peace keeping corp is like asking leftover **** SS to rebuild public relations with France after WW2. I'm a bad guy? I keep telling people that but no one believes me. Thank you Doc! Finally! A believer! EDIT: Why are you posting on both your main and alt? Obviously liking yourself too. Shame shame.
DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 267	Posted - 2013.10.18 19:39:00 - [4] - Quote lDocHollidayl wrote: Having ChicagoCubs running a fake policing force is like asking Bernie Madoff to handle funds for your corp. Hey you...we need to talk..Heimdallr
Pryke Bastion GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 115	Posted - 2013.10.18 22:22:00 - [5] - Quote ...... is like asking a fat kid on a diet to come to a buffet! /me gets the point
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona Top Men. 122	Posted - 2013.10.20 14:10:00 - [6] - Quote I think someone should make counter-force like molden heath outlaw syndicade
God Hates Lags Red Star. EoN. 119	Posted - 2013.10.20 22:01:00 - [7] - Quote SVER attacking AE was like telling Eve players that Dust shouldn't be on the PC.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 478	Posted - 2013.10.21 01:01:00 - [8] - Quote I read this thread title with a Jiggsaw voice.... Opened and thoroughly dissapointed.
SoTa PoP MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 3974	Posted - 2013.10.21 01:35:00 - [9] - Quote How does the title and OP even relate? Bad enough you go negative a FG on a roof Doc - you could at least make coherent threads.
Twisted202 Ancient Exiles 381	Posted - 2013.10.21 13:17:00 - [10] - Quote Psh it's TPs retirement corp. I gave them the police tag a long time ago, nice to see they stuck with it lool Shut up Sota Police need to watch their reputation otherwise they get laughed at like jokes!

SoTa PoP MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 3992	Posted - 2013.10.21 14:48:00 - [11] - Quote Twisted202 wrote: Psh it's TPs retirement corp. I gave them the police tag a long time ago, nice to see they stuck with it lool Shut up Sota Police need to watch their reputation otherwise they get laughed at like jokes! You mean... like everyone laughs at you? Lol Thanks for sharing your experiences with us, we'll be careful. Though I still consider myself a hired gun, not a true EoN member, so I could care less what these guys do. I'm just helpin' and gettin' paid.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 480	Posted - 2013.10.21 14:58:00 - [12] - Quote You are a true EON commie terrorirst (in the most roleplaying sense of the word)
SoTa PoP MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 3993	Posted - 2013.10.21 15:22:00 - [13] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: You are a true EON commie terrorirst (in the most roleplaying sense of the word) Not really. I do not support a lot of what EoN did durring the war like locking districts. I have no place to call home without Imps, so I'm just enjoying myself till I find one.
Arirana Ancient Exiles 189	Posted - 2013.10.21 15:25:00 - [14] - Quote Idk... I'd rather see EoN's A team going around saying "I AM THE LAW!" than quitting altogether. Though it's gonna happen eventually.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 480	Posted - 2013.10.21 15:26:00 - [15] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Not really. I do not support a lot of what EoN did durring the war like locking districts. I have no place to call home without Imps, so I'm just enjoying myself till I find one. Come to Molon Labe and teach me how to heavy. I come back after not playing for over a month and they made me use a HMG yesterday against phoenix. FFS... I wanted to go COMMANDO! but they laughed at me, out loud.
SoTa PoP MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 3993	Posted - 2013.10.21 15:26:00 - [16] - Quote Arirana wrote: Idk... I'd rather see EoN's A team going around saying "I AM THE LAW!" than quitting altogether. Though it's gonna happen eventually. It pretty much already has. MHPD is EoN's last attempt at interesting there members with a bit of RP.
SoTa PoP MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 3993	Posted - 2013.10.21 15:28:00 - [17] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Not really. I do not support a lot of what EoN did durring the war like locking districts. I have no place to call home without Imps, so I'm just enjoying myself till I find one. Come to Molon Labe and teach me how to heavy. I come back after not playing for over a month and they made me use a HMG yesterday against phoenix. FFS... I wanted to go COMMANDO! but they laughed at me, out loud. lol commando. It has a place in PC though, put a sniper rifle on, and swarm launcher, and nano. Just make another identical suit with up-links so when you die the first time to counter snipe you can spawn back in with nanos. Commando on roof is to be feared.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 480	Posted - 2013.10.21 15:38:00 - [18] - Quote While I have your attention.. what mods do you typically run in an HMG ground n pound suit? I was messing around with energizers and regulators before I took a break, seemed nice to have about 30hp/s with recharge delay rates about the same as an assault suit before mods. I was running 2x extenders, 2x plates and a repairer yesterday.. it worked, just curious if there are any other setups that are viable these days. Edit: Also is it true the rumors I heard of AE using rooftop forge gunners backed by a logi lav repairing them? also with Remote Explosives on the ground in case any other DS's land? If so thats bananas
SoTa PoP MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 3993	Posted - 2013.10.21 15:45:00 - [19] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: While I have your attention.. what mods do you typically run in an HMG ground n pound suit? I was messing around with energizers and regulators before I took a break, seemed nice to have about 30hp/s with recharge delay rates about the same as an assault suit before mods. I was running 2x extenders, 2x plates and a repairer yesterday.. it worked, just curious if there are any other setups that are viable these days. Edit: Also is it true the rumors I heard of AE using rooftop forge gunners backed by a logi lav repairing them? also with Remote Explosives on the ground in case any other DS's land? If so thats bananas It's not true - they just have 1 guy who loves his RE's. And it's impossible to put a LLAV onto any viable forgesnipe roofs. And I run with 2x damage mods - shields are a lol joke vs vets as a heavy. Good luck avoiding fluxes. My suit is 2x complex armor and 1 complex repair with 2 complex damage mods. Kill them before they kill you and rely on good footwork and situational awareness. Though some maps with roofs everywhere you'd wish for more shield. -.- I can equip full proto on all slots though, hear not many can. :\
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 480	Posted - 2013.10.21 15:51:00 - [20] - Quote You can get LLAV's on some of the rooftops. Seems like they may have done that to our corp in a fight at some point. found it amusing as if rooftop forge gunners werent OP enough once they get camp setup. 5 Complex Mods, Proto Heavy and Sidearm, and proto grenade? IMPOSSIBRU

SoTa PoP MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 3993	Posted - 2013.10.21 15:57:00 - [21] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: You can get LLAV's on some of the rooftops. Seems like they may have done that to our corp in a fight at some point. found it amusing as if rooftop forge gunners werent OP enough once they get camp setup. 5 Complex Mods, Proto Heavy and Sidearm, and proto grenade? IMPOSSIBRU Oh yea - I use STD flux since you don't need any higher variant. My CPU/PG is almost exactly used up.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 480	Posted - 2013.10.21 16:02:00 - [22] - Quote AH HA!!! That is true, but the adv/proto Flux's have a larger blast radius. minor benefit but still an improvment, tho I hear what you are saying. what sidearm do you use? SMG? And I take it you have every skill maxed regarding fitting optimization, CPU/PG, etc? With my measily 17m SP I cant do that yet /sadface
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 2096	Posted - 2013.10.21 16:17:00 - [23] - Quote We get 2 logi lavs, a blaster tank, 2 forge gunners, with REs and Proxy mines with uplinks and Nanos and 3 infantry with swarms on the towers....yes it's true folks. A whole squad! Just to camp a tower.
SoTa PoP MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 3993	Posted - 2013.10.21 16:27:00 - [24] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: AH HA!!! That is true, but the adv/proto Flux's have a larger blast radius. minor benefit but still an improvment, tho I hear what you are saying. what sidearm do you use? SMG? And I take it you have every skill maxed regarding fitting optimization, CPU/PG, etc? With my measily 17m SP I cant do that yet /sadface I've had every passive skilled maxed out before I had 10mil SP.... Anywho - my sidearm is flaylock so that I can be more versatile in my options when fighting. SMG is just another HMG, only good for when you need to reload but someones coming. Flaylock on the other hand opens up more possibilities when you encounter someone. But for people who aren't confident in there aiming SMG is the way to go.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1527	Posted - 2013.10.21 16:29:00 - [25] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: AH HA!!! That is true, but the adv/proto Flux's have a larger blast radius. minor benefit but still an improvment, tho I hear what you are saying. what sidearm do you use? SMG? And I take it you have every skill maxed regarding fitting optimization, CPU/PG, etc? With my measily 17m SP I cant do that yet /sadface I've had every passive skilled maxed out before I had 10mil SP.... Anywho - my sidearm is flaylock so that I can be more versatile in my options when fighting. SMG is just another HMG, only good for when you need to reload but someones coming. Flaylock on the other hand opens up more possibilities when you encounter someone. But for people who aren't confident in there aiming SMG is the way to go. Someone else uses the flaylock? Wow!
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 480	Posted - 2013.10.21 16:56:00 - [26] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: AH HA!!! That is true, but the adv/proto Flux's have a larger blast radius. minor benefit but still an improvment, tho I hear what you are saying. what sidearm do you use? SMG? And I take it you have every skill maxed regarding fitting optimization, CPU/PG, etc? With my measily 17m SP I cant do that yet /sadface I've had every passive skilled maxed out before I had 10mil SP.... Anywho - my sidearm is flaylock so that I can be more versatile in my options when fighting. SMG is just another HMG, only good for when you need to reload but someones coming. Flaylock on the other hand opens up more possibilities when you encounter someone. But for people who aren't confident in there aiming SMG is the way to go. Your claims to fitting makes sense if you run a flaylock instead of an SMG. Havent used one in ages but it is a skill shot weapon. May start running one again now that they have fixed some of the lag/hit detection problems. Its funny you say people who arent confident in their aiming should run SMG, I always thought that about people who run damage mods
SoTa PoP MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 3994	Posted - 2013.10.21 17:05:00 - [27] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: AH HA!!! That is true, but the adv/proto Flux's have a larger blast radius. minor benefit but still an improvment, tho I hear what you are saying. what sidearm do you use? SMG? And I take it you have every skill maxed regarding fitting optimization, CPU/PG, etc? With my measily 17m SP I cant do that yet /sadface I've had every passive skilled maxed out before I had 10mil SP.... Anywho - my sidearm is flaylock so that I can be more versatile in my options when fighting. SMG is just another HMG, only good for when you need to reload but someones coming. Flaylock on the other hand opens up more possibilities when you encounter someone. But for people who aren't confident in there aiming SMG is the way to go. Your claims to fitting makes sense if you run a flaylock instead of an SMG. Havent used one in ages but it is a skill shot weapon. May start running one again now that they have fixed some of the lag/hit detection problems. Its funny you say people who arent confident in their aiming should run SMG, I always thought that about people who run damage mods Why? If you're confident in your aim wouldn't damage mods... be more effective
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 480	Posted - 2013.10.21 17:13:00 - [28] - Quote Its a timeless argument really... in your corner you are against shield extenders due to flux grenade spam, pro damage mods for taking down enemies faster. in the other corner one could be pro bulk health for longevity, good aim means target will die regardless of a small increase to dps. for example.. 50 bullets [no dmg mods] vs 44 bullets [2 damage mods] to take down an enemy with 1k hp. So if you have good aim, the added damage wont really benefit you as much as bulk hit points will in the survival department, imo. I never really had an issue with losing shields to flux nades in PC, whereas you might have a different experience playing against different opponents. Just kinda silly to disregard the usefulness of extenders as you stated earlier, especially when the argument against them is a situational one at best.
SoTa PoP MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 3996	Posted - 2013.10.21 17:43:00 - [29] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Its a timeless argument really... in your corner you are against shield extenders due to flux grenade spam, pro damage mods for taking down enemies faster. in the other corner one could be pro bulk health for longevity, good aim means target will die regardless of a small increase to dps. for example.. 50 bullets [no dmg mods] vs 44 bullets [2 damage mods] to take down an enemy with 1k hp. So if you have good aim, the added damage wont really benefit you as much as bulk hit points will in the survival department, imo. I never really had an issue with losing shields to flux nades in PC, whereas you might have a different experience playing against different opponents. Just kinda silly to disregard the usefulness of extenders as you stated earlier, especially when the argument against them is a situational one at best. The argument centers around HMG with it's annoying spray and high high RoF - even 10% makes a big difference to how fast someone goes down if you shoot 250 bullets in 2 seconds. But I'm getting 20% and fighting in places where majority of my bullets land. I've faced heavies who use shield extenders - they never win. It's from the experience and number crunching I decided going shield was a bad idea and just stack armor. The only benefit shield gives is when the other side is spamming MD's. imo
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 482	Posted - 2013.10.21 21:36:00 - [30] - Quote Gawd you are such a noob... 2 complex damage mods doesnt give you 20%.. you forgot about DIMINISHING RETURNS dumbass. j/k I see your point.. I still like my eHP better than your pewpew mods... but you did remind me of how much I enjoyed the flaylock before it was OPFOTM Maybe I can get into more competitive fights as a lolHMG heavy to be proven wrong, again. Still want to try out my energizer/regulator/repairer build and really break the mold!



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