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Olomo Daygon
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:46:00 -
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I have been play Dust 514 since early beta and as of now Dust 514 is an incomplete game, unfinished and unrealized. There are so many features that are promised that have as of yet to make it into the game.
Dust 514 is currently at version 1.7 with additions and changes coming every month.
Now I say all this with the understanding that Dust 514 is still a work in progress and that there will always be new and more awesome stuff coming down the pipe to us.
But WHEN will it be in a "Finished" state?!  When will we have all the racial variations of drop suites and vehicles? When will we have all the game modes and match types? Whats the time line here?! Your killing my desire to play CCP. I love this game  and I love the New Eden universe so much! I want to play with my brother on the other side of the country in some crazy PVE. I want to place orders with my Eve Online friends for my jump suites.
I'm not asking to be given it now, I'm not. I know that good things come to those who wait. Dust 514 is a VERY good thing. So I will continue to wait but whats the time line here? Can we have a time frame to look at?
Example:
1.8-Vehicles fixed,
1.9 All Gallente and Amarr drop suites added,
2.0 Planetary Conquest mode fixed and updated,
2.1 All Minmatar and Caldari drop suites added,
2.2 PVE added
E.T.C..
I just want to brag about this amazing game to my friends but i can not/will not in its current state . I work 12hr days and sleep for 8hrs that leaves only 4 hrs to do anything extra and as a married man with a home my time is VERY important and I DO want to spend some of that valuable time with Dust 514. I'm sorry I don't want to whimper and wine here but please give me something!!
Thanks for your time.
Olomo
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THUNDERGROOVE
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:47:00 -
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SoonGäó |
Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:50:00 -
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NEVVVVAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR!!! |
Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:52:00 -
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When we all quit... |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:52:00 -
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When they add THIS and balance it. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:54:00 -
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Never.
CCP will continue to iterate on it on a regular basis, just like Eve is iterated on and changed as time goes on. Eventually we will have the things that they want to add as of today, but tomorrow they want more things, and even more things the day after tomorrow.
On a side note: I think the expectation that this will be a "finished" game is why people get frustrated with the game; other games don't do this - once it ships, it is a "finished" product, but not with CCP games. |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:54:00 -
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Things that need to be done before I'd consider DUST complete:
All racial dropsuits
Racial HAVs, LAVs, Dropships
Amarr/Gallente heavy weapons
A functioning market
A legitimate reason for EVE players to interact with us
Balance tweaks are endless and just part of having an online multiplayer game. PVE would be sweet, but that's "expansion content." |
Olomo Daygon
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:56:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Never.
CCP will continue to iterate on it on a regular basis, just like Eve is iterated on and changed as time goes on. Eventually we will have the things that they want to add as of today, but tomorrow they want more things, and even more things the day after tomorrow.
On a side note: I think the expectation that this will be a "finished" game is why people get frustrated with the game; other games don't do this - once it ships, it is a "finished" product, but not with CCP games.
Ok I know this. And I said as much. But when will the BASICS of a FPS be there? PVP, PVE, Multiple game modes, and Factional Equipment? |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:57:00 -
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About as long as Eve Online took to be complete... five years after release. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
2075
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:58:00 -
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Olomo Daygon wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Never.
CCP will continue to iterate on it on a regular basis, just like Eve is iterated on and changed as time goes on. Eventually we will have the things that they want to add as of today, but tomorrow they want more things, and even more things the day after tomorrow.
On a side note: I think the expectation that this will be a "finished" game is why people get frustrated with the game; other games don't do this - once it ships, it is a "finished" product, but not with CCP games. Ok I know this. And I said as much. But when will the BASICS of a FPS be there? PVP, PVE, Multiple game modes, and Factional Equipment?
To be honest - I'm at work and didn't read the content of the post - just answered the question in the title. Sounds like your title may not be in line with the post. |
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:09:00 -
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Never will be.
But I think once it's a 'solid' game we'll know when it's ported to ps4. |
Olomo Daygon
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:11:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Olomo Daygon wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Never.
CCP will continue to iterate on it on a regular basis, just like Eve is iterated on and changed as time goes on. Eventually we will have the things that they want to add as of today, but tomorrow they want more things, and even more things the day after tomorrow.
On a side note: I think the expectation that this will be a "finished" game is why people get frustrated with the game; other games don't do this - once it ships, it is a "finished" product, but not with CCP games. Ok I know this. And I said as much. But when will the BASICS of a FPS be there? PVP, PVE, Multiple game modes, and Factional Equipment? To be honest - I'm at work and didn't read the content of the post - just answered the question in the title. Sounds like your title may not be in line with the post.
I was trying to avoid that confusion but I could not think of a better way to say it... |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:12:00 -
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Soon Gäó |
Olomo Daygon
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:20:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Never will be.
But I think once it's a 'solid' game we'll know when it's ported to ps4.
I hope so. Because I know the graphics can be better. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:22:00 -
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Olomo Daygon wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Never will be.
But I think once it's a 'solid' game we'll know when it's ported to ps4. I hope so. Because I know the graphics can be better.
I'm more of a Gameplay>Graphics kind of Matari myself, double points if both are done well. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:25:00 -
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Well.. let me see... 1 dropsuit and few weapons every 4 updates, few new maps and socks every 5 updates..... one broken build a year ....
Maybe in 50 years we will have a Complete game ? |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:27:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:Things that need to be done before I'd consider DUST complete:
All racial dropsuits
Racial HAVs, LAVs, Dropships
Amarr/Gallente heavy weapons
A functioning market & robust player/corp contract system
A legitimate reason for EVE players to interact with us
Balance tweaks are endless and just part of having an online multiplayer game. PVE would be sweet, but that's "expansion content."
My list is the same as Disturbingly Bored's with the addition of that contract system we heard about so long ago. |
mordiby
G.R.A.V.E
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:43:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:When they add THIS and balance it.
So you want to add a shagohod to the game, interesting. |
Olomo Daygon
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:03:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:Things that need to be done before I'd consider DUST complete:
All racial dropsuits
Racial HAVs, LAVs, Dropships
Amarr/Gallente heavy weapons
A functioning market
A legitimate reason for EVE players to interact with us
Balance tweaks are endless and just part of having an online multiplayer game. PVE would be sweet, but that's "expansion content."
My list would be almost identical.
All variations of racial dropsuites.
All variations of racial equipment
Fully functioning player market
Multi Stage Planetary Conquest
Player Vs. Environment
A better new player experience
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Sleepy Zan
Dat' Stinky Pinky
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:07:00 -
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Olomo Daygon wrote:When will Dust 514 be "complete"?
HAHAHAHAHA..Good Lord..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA...That ****..HAHA...That **** Right There..hehe....funny |
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:23:00 -
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When EVE is complete |
Dust Junky 4Life
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:25:00 -
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How big is the universe? We may never know.
Dust/Eve will continue to grow like the black plague. Until there is no one left alive to play. |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:30:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:When EVE is complete
EVE is already a complete universe, so you are wrong. It may get continual tweaks and new content, but it is functionally complete.
DUST OTH is still far from a complete game. |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:34:00 -
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eve online is an incomplete game... that should answer your question |
Olomo Daygon
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:37:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:When EVE is complete
I keep getting my words crammed back down my mouth.
What i intended by using that word is to convey, some how, that if nothing else was ever added, when would it reach the point that it would be playable for a long time? No additions in a seance.
If they were no longer adding stuff at what point does it become a fully functioning game? |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.10.18 18:37:00 -
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Skihids wrote:jenza aranda wrote:When EVE is complete EVE is already a complete universe, so you are wrong. It may get continual tweaks and new content, but it is functionally complete. DUST OTH is still far from a complete game.
Ask any dev and they will tell you that EVE has always technically been in beta |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.10.18 18:44:00 -
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It will be finished when EVE is finished...aka never |
Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.10.18 19:50:00 -
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i already quit dust. the game is full of glitches, connection failures, rendering problems, extremely low fps, extremely flawed hit detection, and most of all scrub players. imagine how long it will take them to fix all of these problems? it only took them four months to somewhat fix aiming because it still feels broken. so sayonara **** CCP. |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:03:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Skihids wrote:jenza aranda wrote:When EVE is complete EVE is already a complete universe, so you are wrong. It may get continual tweaks and new content, but it is functionally complete. DUST OTH is still far from a complete game. Ask any dev and they will tell you that EVE has always technically been in beta
That's an incorrect use of the term beta. You could say the same about any production system if your definition is so loose.
EVE may be forever evolving, but it's been out of beta for a decade and functionally complete for at least five years.
It has a full compliment of ships, a functioning player market, etc.
It's a full sandbox.
It's a complete game that evolves and gets new content.
DUST is incomplete as it lacsk obvious content like full racial suits, equipment, weapons, and vehicles.
It lacks any player market and don't try to tell me that its EVE connection is meaningful, much less complete.
Everyone loves to tout the evolving nature of the game, but they should get their terminology straight.
Beta
(computing, technology) A development status given to a program or application that contains most of the major features, but is not yet complete. Sometimes these versions are released only to a select group of people, or to the general public. The testers are usually expected to report any bugs they encounter or any changes they'd like to see before the final release. This is the second major stage of development following the alpha version, and comes before the release candidate.
DUST has been released as an incomplete game. It lost its beta status over a yer ago, but it's still incomplete. |
Chad Michael Murray
The Phoenix Federation
Ascension Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.18 21:23:00 -
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The year 2514. You heard it here first folks! The reasoning by 514 has been cracked. c; |
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.10.18 21:32:00 -
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When I can fly my dropship in a straight line for 10 minutes across empty plains, drone infested caves, dense jungles, arid deserts, districts locked in battle, districts with MCCs just aligning to prepare for battle, above RDVs, below the stars day and night, through clouds and fog, until every planet in New Eden is a sandbox of its own.
Thank god for my relative youth; I am optimistic about living long enough to see it. Whether or not I'll still be in a state to play it...
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.10.19 04:17:00 -
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Honestly?!
Never, they just put empty promises on playerbase and after they pull back. Nothing else, nothing new..actually wait they maybe told you something about "pretty new thingies on horizont" .. yeah on horizont, on the other side of planet and on planet in another galaxy. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.10.19 04:19:00 -
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It all depends on definition of complete, for some may be in less a year, for others never. The problem is you have a developer that doesn't know when to quit, give up, and not reinvent the wheel. This universe is much of a sandbox to them as it is to us.
Eve Online is by far from feature complete. The next 10 years are going to look very scary and include quite a few unknowns.
Dust 514 is also very feature complete and for the time being we have a generally very good idea where we can be going. |
Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.10.19 05:10:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:It all depends on definition of complete, for some may be in less a year, for others never. The problem is you have a developer that doesn't know when to quit, give up, and not reinvent the wheel. This universe is much of a sandbox to them as it is to us.
Eve Online is by far from feature complete. The next 10 years are going to look very scary and include quite a few unknowns.
Dust 514 is also very feature complete and for the time being we have a generally very good idea where we can be going.
Idea is great but implemntation of thingies ingame is other thing. Honestly i still feeling really "beta". CCP should take their fist up and fecking go for something. What i feel right now is just lies and empty promises. Honestly in my eyes they dont achieve anything. Game is flat, weapons behave like something else but DEFO no like weapons. There is no strategy on maps at all. Technical part is just terribad. Boyo i know you must tell to community something, but be honest they really cut bigger piece than what they can eat. Dust is still like beta and what concerns me really big time is. Did they want to do yomething with the game and do it properly or they will just sent us "balancing" nonthing?!
Ill be honest, i expect from dust maybe more, but if someone tell me massive multiplayer etc. For me its mean it will be massive, not just laggy six boyos party. Thats first thingie.
The second one is weapons, design is awesome but atributes and feeling. Dust 514 team put efford maybe just on really OP rifles. Machinegun is beast in real life on +600m, how is possible to make it 20m maximum arm for game. Its quite ridiclous. Another thingie sawrmies here. Rocket lauchners, fecking Javelin in real have 0.6someting MACH and here tank/dropship just run/fly away?! Boyo like really?! AA Mines and here i-¦ll be feckin dog. Where you saw mines visible, mines should be just less visible how its possible. I really think CCP team never had some army training.
Oki what next..yup vehicles. Boyo i drove a tank, how is posible to drive it a shooting at same time. I know maybe its future, but CCP here really lost tactical use for armor (honestly it same bust like with swarms, propele grenade lauchner or rocket lauchner is a tactical tool). Snipies, oki its a future again but snipin from crouch. Its not a choice of sniper i-¦ll send here some photos from our funshooting.
http://bhdclan.enjin.com/profile/2365059/pics/detail/album_id/212693#pid=1341907
http://bhdclan.enjin.com/profile/2365059/pics/detail/album_id/212693#pid=1341912
http://bhdclan.enjin.com/profile/2365059/pics/detail/album_id/212693#pid=1341904
And there is many more thingies, like exos what they told they will be here and we still dont have them. Racial arms and suits. Pilot suits etc. They just made AR514, game where assault rifle is king. And waiting for some proper update five years, boyo i really dont thing so. Dust 514 is already boring flatland now and with ps4 there will be more, by my sideof view, better titles. PS2 (real massive realtime online playing), Blacklight: Retribution (smaler but more versatile maps with awesome amout of customizable EVERYTHING!!) or Hawken (action mech simulator) and Destiny?! Im really sad, but if CCP dont start doing something this game will be lost before they EVE-time-Deadline.
After all that what they promised before and what i have/saw (mine 4x sent respec plead, without respec..unexpected changes ingame..unbalance after patch..laggy servers..invisible walls etc.). Its game in future and mechanix are crappy like hell. Player even can make a speedvault over the fence. Grenades are throwed like by some granny. Boyo i dont put trust in this game in five year plan, basicaly they dont have change. |
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